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post #1 of 11 Old May 24th, 2007, 7:35 pm Thread Starter
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2 Questions: Engaging 1st gear hard/Throttle cable lube ideas.

Okay all you tech heads,
Needed some insight, ideas, suggestions, help.

1st question:
I'm having a difficult time with my 1st gear engagement at stops. Approx. 65% of the time when I'm at a stop light/sign and idling at neutral I go to put it in 1st gear and nothing. Try and try...2, 3 times....nothing, then start to lightly stomp on it.....play with the clutch a little bit.......shift it into 2nd....well its a pain in the ass. What up dog!!!!

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My throttle continues to be hard to turn "stuff", getting hair on my palm cause of it. I called the BMW dealer and talked to the Muck-cak-nic on duty and advised to "not" put any type of oil on it. He suggested using only graphite, trick is how do I get it in there?

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Okay all you tech heads,
Needed some insight, ideas, suggestions, help.

1st question:
I'm having a difficult time with my 1st gear engagement at stops. Approx. 65% of the time when I'm at a stop light/sign and idling at neutral I go to put it in 1st gear and nothing. Try and try...2, 3 times....nothing, then start to lightly stomp on it.....play with the clutch a little bit.......shift it into 2nd....well its a pain in the ass. What up dog!!!!

2nd question:
My throttle continues to be hard to turn "stuff", getting hair on my palm cause of it. I called the BMW dealer and talked to the Muck-cak-nic on duty and advised to "not" put any type of oil on it. He suggested using only graphite, trick is how do I get it in there?
#1 When shifting to first from a stop, maintain a light downward pressure on the shift lever and let the clutch out slightly to find the "slip" zone. If it didn't go into gear on the initial shift lever movement, the shift will complete as soon as the clutch engages. As soon as the bike is moving remove your foot from the lever

#2 Conventional wisdom says not to lube the cables. Being somewhat "unconventional" I used a spray can of snowmobile cable lube and the neat little attachment specifically made for lubing cables and had no issues for three years. (Cable frayed at the throttle rail last week so I changed them to the new style.)

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Same as above. Mine sometimes doesn't want to shift into first unless I release the clutch lever just a bit...then it goes right into 1st! Just so you know...safety rules say that you should actually keep the bike IN GEAR at intersections in case you have to get out of the way of an oncoming cager quickly!

I also lubed my cables with a VERY LIGHT lubricant by BelRay. Seemed to help...no problems yet.

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I always leave it in 1st at a stop AND I've never had a cable problem with no lube added.

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...and don't stomp on it lightly or any other way, possibly why some linkages give up the ghost.

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Mine is OK once warm. Can be a swine when cold so I guess its best not to put it in neutral.
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I had the same concern and POST when I got my new 05...all above are correct, downward pressure gas and clutch-you will scurry away.

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Ping me if you want help. I live up in Round Rock... also, Astuber is nearby in Austin.

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Eddie,

It looks like we have the same year and color of LT. I live in NW Austin, PM me and you can compare the throttle stiffness with mine if you want.

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Cable really shouldn't need lube. Some have used a teflon based lube with good results. I would definitely check the cable ends at the throttle rail ASAP. The majority of the time that is the cause of a stiff throttle. Replace the cable before it breaks on you. Don't ask me how I know "Ouch"......

As far as getting her into 1st, like the others have said don't stomp or use much pressure. Kind of pull the clutch in alittle (may have to try it 2-3 times) while trying to slip her into gear. Works for me.....

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Check your shift linkage real closely. When I started to have trouble engaging first I used the methods above with some success and paid it no nevermind. Sometime later I went to lube the linkage and one of the balls had screwed itself half way out and was bent. I replaced both the long and the short arm and 2 of the balls. After adjustment of the short arm my tranny has never shifted more smoothly. And I suggest replacing the cables at the same time. It is a pita procedure (at least for me), but except for HID it is the single best change I've made to the bike. My .02.

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