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post #1 of 12 Old May 21st, 2007, 3:51 pm Thread Starter
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Question Metz radial?

I just got a new tire put on and looked--after I got home--and they put a ME880 120/70 R on it.
All I've ever run are bias. It has metz bias ply on the back. Seemed to ride just fine, however, I was taking it pretty easy with the fresh tire on.

Is this going to be OK?

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Brian, As far as I know there is NO Metz radial rated for the LT. Besides, most folks will not mix bias and radial tires on a bike. YMMV

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The tire is rated 58 for weight and V for speed. In the HOW there is a post indicating a 58 weight rating is sufficient for the front tire.
I am concerned about wear and handling.

I'm afraid I'm going to get crap from this dealer--the local Victory/triumph dealer--he may be OK, I've bought all my tires and brake pads from him for many years, but I don't think he's going to be excited about restocking a used tire. I called him right away after I noticed the problem. I was going to check the pressure and just happened to notice the "R" on the sidewall--the tread pattern is zactly the same. The guy I talked to said it should be OK---however, this is the guy that cleans the bikes...everyone else was busy.

Didn't some people mix an Avon radial and a bias ply of another brand?

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Brian my 2000 has a Metz radial front and bias ply rear combo works just fine and i have put around 3300 mi on the combo.
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Didn't some people mix an Avon radial and a bias ply of another brand?
No, they were mixing Bridgestone (rear) and Avon (front) radials.

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Metzeler MAY make a front radial that'll work on the LT, but I know for a fact that they don't make a rear radial that's rated for the weight of the LT.

Either way, I'd go back and make them install the tire that you wanted in the first place. You know . . . one that matches the rear freakin' tire! Morons!!!
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I'm afraid I'm going to get crap from this dealer--the local Victory/triumph dealer--he may be OK, I've bought all my tires and brake pads from him for many years, but I don't think he's going to be excited about restocking a used tire. I called him right away after I noticed the problem.
It's their fault, they made a mistake, now they should fix it. Not a big deal really (the tire swap I mean) It ain't like your their ins. company canceling their coverage for killing people by putting mis-matched tires on.
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I've ran Metzs radial front and bias rear for several sets now, no issues. just my 2 cents.

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I've ran Metzs radial front and bias rear for several sets now, no issues. just my 2 cents.
Chris, what kind of mileage do you get with that combo, what pressures you using, any cupping or scalloping on the front?

Curious because Ron Ayers sent me a front radial by mistake, or your friend Paul switched 'em at delivery, which I have an RMA for. But if there is improvement to be made in any of these categories I might try it.

I have tried radial/bias combos on other bikes before. Both ends of the bike definitely don't give the same feedback. The radial squirms around and is soft, with the bias you feel the road and suspension right now. Kind of weird when the front is doing one thing and the rear is doing another. However, I'm not sure these points matter on the LT, it isn't ridden that hard.

Radials also tend to blister and come apart easier, but haven't heard many complaints about the Metz radial. Probably since only the front is rated correctly for the LT.

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Well I called and got the manager this morning...they're going to replace it "if that's what I have to do."

Just didn't seem as friendly as usual.

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Well I called and got the manager this morning...they're going to replace it "if that's what I have to do."

Just didn't seem as friendly as usual.

Thanks for the input.
Too darn bad for them! They are the ones who screwed up in the first place, so don't feel bad about them not being as friendly as usual. Really! You paid good money, and your safety should be paramount to them as it is to you! Even if other folks ride with a Radial/Bias combo. That is not what you requested and paid for.

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Rear Radial/Bias Front

I purchased a 2000 K1200LT that had a Metzler bias ply in the front and a Dunlop radial on the rear. This was my first experience with the K1200 and I was beginning to think that my 80,000 miles on motorcycles were in vain as I was beginning to think that I just could not ride the machine. The Dunlap was beginning to scallop and was very unstable on corners and riding in general. Fortunately with around 5,000 miles on the tire a well placed nail required replacement. I took the tire to Miller BMW in Tallahassee, one look by Dusty gave me the answer. He said the tire was not certified for the weight of the K1200LT and that was the reason it was so unstable. I installed a new Metzler bias ply tire and it is an entirely different handling machine. The cornering stability and the enjoyment of riding came back from the years I remembered. The K1200LT is not a sport bike but it is comfortable even for short rides to the grocery store. Yes, it will hold 7 gallons of water along with other necessities.
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