Originally Posted by kdog
So what did you major in, dick jousting?
Sorry I was just curious.
LOL, this is why there will never be a reality show about engineers. The commercials will be the highlight of the show...
Now dick jousting... I know for a absolute fact that an erect one has a higher COG.
[/QUOTE]However, once initiated, the bike becomes balanced throughout the turn. The forces are directed straight down to the contact patch, and the affects of the moment arm are nullified. So with higher COG, you initiate the turn more quickly, and progress through the turn without negative affects. [/QUOTE]
I agree. If there is any change in velocity or changes in the pavement causing the bike to shift etc,(like that never happens) the bike will come out of balance and I believe, within reason, that the reduced stability of a higher COG is less desirable.
[/QUOTE]Once again, weighting the pegs does NOT lower the COG one iota. Of this, I am sure. In order to lower the COG you'd have to physically move some mass lower.[/QUOTE]
You are correct that the COG/COM will not change by 'weighting' the pegs. Applying the force of the body's weight to a lower portion of the bike will not change that. I do believe there is an increase in stability from applying the force of the body's weight to the bike at the pegs and not the seat. Just riding around a few corners with ones feet off the pegs is an easy way to check that out.
[/QUOTE]The argument is silly anyways because it's not like LT's are skidding off the road.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]A bike with a lower COG will not stick to the road any better. [/QUOTE]
I would have to agree, but really do not know that for sure. The point I tried to make in the first post is that it is the balance between ability to initiate the turn and the stability within the turn that defines the ride in my opinion. And many bikes have different purposes and as such have different characteristics.
Being heavy into the mountain biking world I am keenly aware of how 1 degree in frame geometry makes a world of difference. There is much much more to handling than the issue of CG.
thanks for the thought provoking thoughts.