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Hi all,

I am in the process of planning a version 2.0 of the LT dash cover as I managed to purchase an extra unit from Hans ("SilverBuffalo").

My version 1.0 is described here. http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=53316#poststop

The new one should accommodate three round gauges + the smartire readout.
Now, I have been thinking of oil pressure, oil temperature and manifold vacuum gauges. (I already have volt- and ammeter).

Any ideas on how to hook them to the engine side…? Or any other gauge ideas…?

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Ari, here is an idea... At 51 my eyes have trouble reading the gauges, especially at night. I have no problem with distance vision, nor with night vision, it is just reading that is a problem. Is there a way to "magnify" the digital and analog gauges to make them easier to use? To me that would be more important than additional gauges (that I could probably not read anyway ).
The speedo and tacho are not an issue, but the clock and other displays are.

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Ari, here is an idea... At 51 my eyes have trouble reading the gauges, especially at night. I have no problem with distance vision, nor with night vision, it is just reading that is a problem. Is there a way to "magnify" the digital and analog gauges to make them easier to use? To me that would be more important than additional gauges (that I could probably not read anyway ).
The speedo and tacho are not an issue, but the clock and other displays are.
I don't know Gilles, this is a tough one...

Perhaps there are these magnifying add-on films that one could apply on top of the gauges. I remember there were this "wide-vision" pieces of film that you could glue on the rear window of your van or station wagon and that would help you see wider and especially lower. These films would not work in your case as these actually make the object smaller but I would suppose there must be similar films that also magnify objects.

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Fuel pressure would probably be of more use than manifold vacuum.
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How 'bout an altimeter, Artificial horizon, Manifold pressure, VOR information, oh, yeah and glidepath for the dreaded IFR approaches.
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I don't know Gilles, this is a tough one...

Perhaps there are these magnifying add-on films that one could apply on top of the gauges. I remember there were this "wide-vision" pieces of film that you could glue on the rear window of your van or station wagon and that would help you see wider and especially lower. These films would not work in your case as these actually make the object smaller but I would suppose there must be similar films that also magnify objects.

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Thanks Ari, I was looking at those add-on films also but the quality is very poor...

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How 'bout an altimeter, Artificial horizon, Manifold pressure, VOR information, oh, yeah and glidepath for the dreaded IFR approaches.
Don't forget carb heat (ok, manifold heat) control/indication - useful for those long, downhill mountain decents !! (and ROT indicator).

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I'd like to see a turn and bank indicator.

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Ari, if I recall correctly you have a rear-facing video camera on your LT. Why not put a small video screen on the dash, showing what's behind you?

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Ari, if I recall correctly you have a rear-facing video camera on your LT. Why not put a small video screen on the dash, showing what's behind you?
Thanks Howard, I have the video screen (of my video recorder) in my Chicane tankbag already. And besides I don´t keep the video equipment on all the time. With all the RS mirrors and everything, I think a permanent rear camera would be a bit of an overkill. It would kinda make my reverse radar sensors useless!

As for the other suggestions... some of them are a bit aviation inclined if I understand correctly. And some are more or less off-road related...

OK I have to see what I can hook up and where in the motor side.
The manifold vacuum would indicate fuel economy, right? Does the fuel pressure do the same? A (manifold) vacuum sensor should not be a tough one but from where to read oil pressure or oil temperature or fuel pressure..?

Thanks for the input anyway.

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The manifold vacuum would indicate fuel economy, right? Does the fuel pressure do the same? A (manifold) vacuum sensor should not be a tough one but from where to read oil pressure or oil temperature or fuel pressure..?

Thanks for the input anyway.

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Fuel pressure would be the first indication of a fuel delivery problem before it got to the point of the engine shutting off. To get the reading you'd tap into the fuel line after the pump somewhere. Most vehicles have a schrader valve mounted in the fuel rail for hooking up a guage for diagnosis purposes.
For the oil pressure sender, I would imagine you could find the switch for the light and install a T fitting, one end for the switch and the other for the gauge sender. Oil temp would be harder because for it to be meaningful you'd need to read the oil temp in the sump. That would probably involve drilling a hole in the sump somewhere and adding a threaded bung for the sender to screw into.
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How 'bout an altimeter, Artificial horizon, Manifold pressure, VOR information, oh, yeah and glidepath for the dreaded IFR approaches.
There's an easy way to get all of the above:
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Additional Ideas

How about some gauges that do actually indicate something (air temp comes to mind), but are labeled with things that don't exist... yet. Some ideas from Star Trek:

Matter-Antimatter Mix Ratio
Deuterium Injector Status
Plasma Coolant Temperature

or some such thing.

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Hi all,

I am in the process of planning a version 2.0 of the LT dash cover as I managed to purchase an extra unit from Hans ("SilverBuffalo").

My version 1.0 is described here. http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=53316#poststop

The new one should accommodate three round gauges + the smartire readout.
Now, I have been thinking of oil pressure, oil temperature and manifold vacuum gauges. (I already have volt- and ammeter).

Any ideas on how to hook them to the engine side…? Or any other gauge ideas…?

Regards
Hi Ari,
I'm going to offer you some different advice. Adding a gauge just for the sake of having another gauge doesn't make sense to me. Gauges should provide you with useful information you need at a glance. Your voltmeter and ammeter are somewhat redundant but with the power demands of your lights and other electrical accessories it makes perfect sense to have both. The additional gauges you mention and the others suggested to you in this thread are not really needed and in fact might cause more problems then their information would ever prevent.

You have a real talent for taking an idea, visualizing it, then fabricating it with an end result that looks like OEM. My suggestion would be to keep the gauges you have, relocate the smartire, remove the radar detector and build it into the dash. As great as your dash looks the radar detector looks like an afterthought.

Good luck on your project,

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What about monitoring the temperature of the rear drive lubricant? Would this provide an indication of potential bearing failure before it actually happened? The changes in ambient temperature might make any changes due to bearing wear impossible to detect, I'm not sure.

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how about transmission oil temp. and differential oil temp? don't laught most 18 wheelers have them. any temp. rise would indicate a problem. (bearings ect.)
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Refrigerator LT

Personally I think of the dash and storage box area as a small refrigerator and just velcro everything I want in front of me to it!
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