It's not been a fun two day - BMW Luxury Touring Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 9:30 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Steve_R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Snellville, GA, USA
Posts: 6,424
It's not been a fun two day

The last two days have not been really fun days. I was riding in to the office yesterday and hit a pretty hard bump. I saw something flip off the bike. The left Muth mirror is loose so that was my first thought. When I looked to the left, I saw the AudioVox head for my Sirius radio bouncing down the road. By the time I got to it, it had been hit one or twice (Pic 1).

Then today I went out to the garage to take Rover to work tonight. When I got out there, there were oil spots on the floor. Checking the rear wheel, there is oil all over the tire and the rear brake caliper. Running my finger up behind the caliper to towards the hub there is an oily residue. So I'm thinking I've lost the rear end. (Pic 2 & 3) We're off to the dealer tomorrow so that they can check it out. Am I mad or upset?? Yep, but only because I'm not going to be able to ride for the next couple of weeks. This is just a machine and things break. C'est la vie!


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0307a.jpg
Views:	321
Size:	47.3 KB
ID:	9754   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0304a.jpg
Views:	479
Size:	86.7 KB
ID:	9755   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0306a.jpg
Views:	353
Size:	48.5 KB
ID:	9756  

On His Ride,
Steve
-
KA5MTE
'02 LTE - Red-blooded Dragonfly
'00 Unigo - Dragon's Egg
'01 LTC - Flying Purple People Eater (Ya gotta be old enough to understand)(RIP)
'00 LTC - Canyon Red Rover (RIP)

Have you
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bmwlt.com lately????



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"To not know me is to lose nothing, to not know Him is to lose everything."
Steve_R is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 9:47 pm
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,752
Tough breaks Steve... Hope the rear end deal isn't as serious as it sounds.

I admire you attitude in dealing with back to back bad days.
gulfxray is offline  
post #3 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 9:48 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 14,436
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_R
The last two days have not been really fun days. I was riding in to the office yesterday and hit a pretty hard bump. I saw something flip off the bike. The left Muth mirror is loose so that was my first thought. When I looked to the left, I saw the AudioVox head for my Sirius radio bouncing down the road. By the time I got to it, it had been hit one or twice (Pic 1).

Then today I went out to the garage to take Rover to work tonight. When I got out there, there were oil spots on the floor. Checking the rear wheel, there is oil all over the tire and the rear brake caliper. Running my finger up behind the caliper to towards the hub there is an oily residue. So I'm thinking I've lost the rear end. (Pic 2 & 3) We're off to the dealer tomorrow so that they can check it out. Am I mad or upset?? Yep, but only because I'm not going to be able to ride for the next couple of weeks. This is just a machine and things break. C'est la vie!


I dunno, Bud. You may be right about the rear drive, butt before ole Toad got to leakin' that bad, I heard and felt all kinds of weird goings on back there. Knowin' how in tune you are with Red Rover, I'da thought you woulda felt or heard sumpthin' too. Maybe sumpthin' franged as a result of you hitting the beeg bump?

I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya. And say, didn't you just have Red Rover worked on recently? A tech session, or did the dealership do some service.

I know whatever it takes, you'll git-er-done before you make the Feb trip down to my 'hood. See ya then.
Dick is offline  
 
post #4 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 9:56 pm
Senior Member
 
hschisler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rushville, OH, USA
Posts: 7,769
Sorry for your recent bad luck.

FWIW, your middle pic looks exactly like my final drive did after the BMW service tech left the fill plug off during the 600 mile service. I realized it several hundred miles later. No oil, of course. New final drive at no cost to me, except for 2 weeks out of commision.

Howard Schisler
2015 BMW K1600GTL
2009 BMW K1200LT - 60k miles
2012 BMW F650GS (sold)
2005 BMW K1200LT - "Gray Ghost", traded at 120k miles
2005 Honda Shadow 650 (sold)
AMA, IBA, BMW MOA. CCRs: Braselton 2006, Osage Beach 2007, Duluth 2012


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
[/URL]
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
hschisler is offline  
post #5 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 10:09 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Steve_R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Snellville, GA, USA
Posts: 6,424
I'm already for the couple weeks down time. I just need the bike back by Feb 23. I got a little planned out Tejas way. Where are we eating on Feb 24 Dick? Did I just hijack my own thread??

On His Ride,
Steve
-
KA5MTE
'02 LTE - Red-blooded Dragonfly
'00 Unigo - Dragon's Egg
'01 LTC - Flying Purple People Eater (Ya gotta be old enough to understand)(RIP)
'00 LTC - Canyon Red Rover (RIP)

Have you
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bmwlt.com lately????



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"To not know me is to lose nothing, to not know Him is to lose everything."
Steve_R is offline  
post #6 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 10:16 pm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 14,436
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_R
I'm already for the couple weeks down time. I just need the bike back by Feb 23. I got a little planned out Tejas way. Where are we eating on Feb 24 Dick? Did I just hijack my own thread??
Nah, I hi-jacked it for ya!!!

Hey, you haven't been to that place in Bastrop that Andy found, and neither have I. I can't recall the name of the place at the moment, but maybe we can schedule that. It's just east of Austin. Or there are some 'Q' places over in Lockhart. Or, since you'll be on Red Rover, maybe we'll do sumpthin' over in the Hill Country around Llano or....???? We'll figger out sumpthin' 'fore you git here, Steve. Good luck on patchin' ole Red Rover up.
Dick is offline  
post #7 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 10:42 pm
Senior Member
 
cccpastorjack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Cornelius, North Carolina, USA
Posts: 1,986
Sure looks suspicous????

Have you found out what the problem is? To me...it almost looks like brake fluid or a leak from the rear drive drain???

Jack Homesley
Cornelius, NC USA
'06 Goldwing - "The Black Pearl"
Too many others to list...


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cccpastorjack is offline  
post #8 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 10:58 pm
Cat Herder
 
andy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Posts: 5,852
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Nah, I hi-jacked it for ya!!!

Hey, you haven't been to that place in Bastrop that Andy found, and neither have I. I can't recall the name of the place at the moment, but maybe we can schedule that. It's just east of Austin. Or there are some 'Q' places over in Lockhart. Or, since you'll be on Red Rover, maybe we'll do sumpthin' over in the Hill Country around Llano or....???? We'll figger out sumpthin' 'fore you git here, Steve. Good luck on patchin' ole Red Rover up.
I'll join you guys in Bastrop if you can stand me being there.
andy is offline  
post #9 of 21 Old Jan 31st, 2007, 10:58 pm
Senior Member
 
AlaskaFish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hillsboro, OR, USA
Posts: 3,136
Cool

Cross your fingers Steve, as you may be OK so long as you haven't put any real miles on it since it started leaking. After my Rear Drive was replaced heading to CCR-05 (Teton) I had a similar experience back home about a month later. I noticed oil spread all over the rear wheel in a starburst pattern, so it was obviously leaking while I was riding. But what called my attention to it right after I got off the Bike was the slow drip from the Brake Caliper!

I ended up taking it into the dealer and they replaced the seal that had started leaking not long after the Drive had been replaced under BMW warranty. That was about 20K miles ago, and all is still fine!

Maybe you just need a new seal.

John

John & Marilyn Fisher
'00 K1200LTC "Katie"
'95 Triumph "Tigger"
'12 Triumph 800XC "Tigger II" (RIP)
'12 Triumph 1200 Explorer "Shadow Tigger"
Hillsboro, Oregon

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
AlaskaFish is offline  
post #10 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 5:11 am
Senior Member
 
motorman587's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: , FL, USA
Posts: 2,910
Maybe just loose brake line.
motorman587 is offline  
post #11 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 5:29 am
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 66
If you need help

Steve,

Sorry to hear about your Sirius and your leak. I live in Gwinnett County and run back and forth downtown alot. If I can help or if you need a ride just let me know. I'll help anyway I can.

Michael
Bamabear is offline  
post #12 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 7:01 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 14,436
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy
I'll join you guys in Bastrop if you can stand me being there.
Good deal, Andy. I think we can manage to stand you! Might have to lean up against the wall, butt we can stand ya!!

Stay tuned at the So. Central forum for later details.

Now back to Steve's *no-fun* thread. Sorry for the diversion, Steve.
Dick is offline  
post #13 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 7:21 am
Senior Member
 
surfran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Finger Lakes Region, NY, USA
Posts: 315
I can relate to the radio being knocked off by a pot hole. Mine was a manhole cover and ever since I have a rubber band around the radio and the mount to help prevent that. The "lock" the XM Skyfi2 uses just isn't secure enough for that kind of jolt.

Good luck on the rear end.

Randy
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	BMW pictures 006_renamed_15637.jpg
Views:	55
Size:	62.8 KB
ID:	9768  

2000 Canyon Red "Crimson Cruiser"
40,000 miles grinning, and counting....
BMWMOA # 131660
surfran is offline  
post #14 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 10:31 am
Bandit
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by motorman587
Maybe just loose brake line.
i thought the same thing from the pics. maybe first check your brake fluid reservoir?
post #15 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 11:28 am
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 826
I'd also check fluid areas forward on the bike to see if something didn't get sprayed back in the wind. i.e. loose oil filter cap, tranny drain plug etc.
hoodoodrum is offline  
post #16 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 11:46 am
Senior Member
 
PATTERSON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: RENTON, WA, USA
Posts: 436
That's what my final drive and rear wheel looked like the 2nd day I had it....turns out they'd over-filled the final drive, and the breather pipe was facing the wrong way........... drained and refilled....moved the breather and it's been good to go since.

Patterson/USAF1....'05 LT
and the little guy behind me is the world famous "Marty Hill"
Never look into a lazer with the remaining eye
363K on BMW's
PATTERSON is offline  
post #17 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 1:10 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Steve_R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Snellville, GA, USA
Posts: 6,424
Already been done. The drip when it is there is straight down from the brake and rear end.

On His Ride,
Steve
-
KA5MTE
'02 LTE - Red-blooded Dragonfly
'00 Unigo - Dragon's Egg
'01 LTC - Flying Purple People Eater (Ya gotta be old enough to understand)(RIP)
'00 LTC - Canyon Red Rover (RIP)

Have you
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bmwlt.com lately????



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"To not know me is to lose nothing, to not know Him is to lose everything."

Last edited by Steve_R; Feb 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pm.
Steve_R is offline  
post #18 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 1:11 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Steve_R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Snellville, GA, USA
Posts: 6,424
Serviced by me 4k miles ago. First sign of oil and it is not coming from under the rear end boot.

On His Ride,
Steve
-
KA5MTE
'02 LTE - Red-blooded Dragonfly
'00 Unigo - Dragon's Egg
'01 LTC - Flying Purple People Eater (Ya gotta be old enough to understand)(RIP)
'00 LTC - Canyon Red Rover (RIP)

Have you
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bmwlt.com lately????



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"To not know me is to lose nothing, to not know Him is to lose everything."
Steve_R is offline  
post #19 of 21 Old Feb 1st, 2007, 11:22 pm
Senior Member
 
wilbar00c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Glastonbury , CT, USA
Posts: 579
"O" ring or Lip seal leak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_R
Already been done. The drip when it is there is straight down from the brake and rear end.
Steve, can you tell if the leak is from the lip seal on the hub or the housing "O" ring?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Camera Dump 8.21.06 106.jpg
Views:	78
Size:	252.6 KB
ID:	9783   Click image for larger version

Name:	Camera Dump 8.21.06 108.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	266.3 KB
ID:	9784   Click image for larger version

Name:	camera dump 8.21.06 109.jpg
Views:	74
Size:	166.9 KB
ID:	9785  

"The idea is to die young as late as possible"

Barney Rubble (rider); Wilma Flintstone (pillion).
2000LTC CHAMPAGNE, Most prominent color at early CCR's
BMWMOA 89402

Last edited by wilbar00c; Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pm.
wilbar00c is offline  
post #20 of 21 Old Feb 2nd, 2007, 8:40 pm Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Steve_R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Snellville, GA, USA
Posts: 6,424
And the jury is in

Borrowed a trailer from a friend today to get Red Rover to the dealer. Couldn't get the ramp up without it hitting the tour pack and being the lazy goof that I am, I rode the bike. Nothing unusual in bike handling except the lack of braking power from the rear brake. Not to be unexpected if the oil I'm seeing dripping from the rear caliper is brake fluid. I get to the shop during lunch hour, so there is no one around to look at the bike. No big deal, I like the dealer and I get to talk to Nate Kerns, one of the riders of the winning BMW at the ingaugural Moto-ST race a Daytona last fall. When the back office crew gets in from lunch, they pull Rover into the shop. There just the slightest of play from the rear wheel. Pull the rear wheel and brake hub and low and behold just a trace of oil from the seal at the rear end. So the issue is failed rear bearing. If there is no damage to the gears, it will be just replacement of all the bearings. If damage and cost gets to high, then they'll just replace with a new one. We all know that is a crap shoot, but there is a 2 year warranty on new parts so that's a good thing.


While they have it, they are going install the new throttle cables that I purchased last month and change all the oils. Also with leaky rear end it needs new EBC pads and I'm replaceing the rear rotor because it is clunking. At that point, we should be good to go to head to Austin on Feb 23.

I'm still of the opinion it is just a machine and it going to break sooner or later. I'm just going to fix and "Ride it like I stole it!!"

On His Ride,
Steve
-
KA5MTE
'02 LTE - Red-blooded Dragonfly
'00 Unigo - Dragon's Egg
'01 LTC - Flying Purple People Eater (Ya gotta be old enough to understand)(RIP)
'00 LTC - Canyon Red Rover (RIP)

Have you
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bmwlt.com lately????



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"To not know me is to lose nothing, to not know Him is to lose everything."

Last edited by Steve_R; Feb 2nd, 2007 at 8:56 pm.
Steve_R is offline  
post #21 of 21 Old Feb 3rd, 2007, 11:26 pm
Senior Member
 
cfell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Round Rock, TX, USA
Posts: 7,794
Geez, Steve... glad you are getting things squared away!! the trip to Austin should be a great "breakin"..

...............
J.M.J...
Dcn Channing

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
cfell is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW Luxury Touring Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome