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post #1 of 22 Old Nov 26th, 2019, 3:29 pm Thread Starter
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hey All;

Asking again. I know its hard to come by, but you guys can find just about anything.
need the ABS module. part number 34517685803,
'2002 model.
I can reroute the brakes, thats not the issue, its all the electronics part, speedo, cruise etc.
I haven't been able to find a rebuild shop, usa or uk.
module master has told me a few months for years.

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post #2 of 22 Old Nov 26th, 2019, 6:01 pm
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You might have to buy a whole LT with working ABS.

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Re: abs

There is no reason to remove the ABS unit. Just plug the two lines that go to the ABS. I used cut off hex bolts & copper washers on mine. Mine is still full of brake fluid.
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Re: abs

Or you could use this. It comes with new electronics and a bypass plate. Very clean.
https://shop.rhelectronics.de/shop/p...cond-life-kit/

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Or you could use this. It comes with new electronics and a bypass plate. Very clean.
https://shop.rhelectronics.de/shop/p...cond-life-kit/

Beech;

now we are talking. like i said, the brakes are NOT the issue, its the electronics.
so this will let all my speedo, cruise, all that stuff you need, work?

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You might have to buy a whole LT with working ABS.
Very true;

but this is my baby, i watched her being put together right out of the crate and put over 300,000 glorious miles on her.
I would like to fix her and keep travelling. My RT is great but its not a LT.

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Re: abs

On another note IF the electronics are still good in your unit you can just do the fluid bypass and keep the electronics. Of course you will need to cut the two wires that go to the warning lights but the rest of your "stuff" will still work. If your electronics board is bad I may have one you can have. The German unit has its own electronics but it is pricey at $770 US.

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now we are talking. like i said, the brakes are NOT the issue, its the electronics.
so this will let all my speedo, cruise, all that stuff you need, work?
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Seems it will. That is why you pay the bucks for an aluminum plate:
Here is a quote from the site on the plate:

The device replaces the standard ABS III of the manufacturer FTE and is built into the motorcycle instead. It hydraulically connects the control circuits with the brake circuits, so the brake system works as usual without ABS system.

The built-in electronics ensure that all the electronic functions of the original ABS control unit are retained and function flawlessly. Brake light, tail light and speedometer/kilometre counter continue to function as usual. Various states can be programmed by the user for ABS warning lamps.

However, functions such as ABS, partial integral/full integral function, rollover protection, brake booster, etc. are omitted. However, the braking force is absolutely sufficient even without a brake booster, as these models were delivered without a brake booster as standard.

But you are always sure to have a working brake. A failure with low residual brake function or a malfunction, as is known with the original devices, is excluded. The unit is wear-free and thus ensures the long service life of your BMW motorcycle.

A further advantage is the weight saving of approx. 3.1 kg. So the original part weighs 4.6kg, our RH second life KIT only 1.5kg.

The installation location and connection of all cables and plugs is the same as for the original unit. Thus the backfitting to the original ABS device is possible at any time without large rebuilding expenditure.

Here is the specific page:
https://shop.rhelectronics.de/shop/p...e-kit/?lang=en

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On another note IF the electronics are still good in your unit you can just do the fluid bypass and keep the electronics. Of course you will need to cut the two wires that go to the warning lights but the rest of your "stuff" will still work. If your electronics board is bad I may have one you can have. The German unit has its own electronics but it is pricey at $770 US.
Its the electronics for sure, no speedo, which means no cruise, turn signal issues, etc. you know the drill.
very difficult if not impossible to find the unit specific to my model bike. its the 34517685803 one that i cant find anywhere.
found one in Italy but apparently doesnt ship to us.
so back to business, what do you have that might help me? it just the circuit board? which is fine just need to whst we are discussing.

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Hi Zeke , my ABS on our 2002 K1200LT went bad around the same time as yours . I got a short brake pipe from the auto parts store , and a flaring tool for the flair BMW uses , to do the brake bypass . One short one on the front brake , and bent up one that looked like a twisted up mess for the back. then cut 2 wires in the wire loom going to the ABS. Every thing works , speedo, cruse, brake lights .
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There is no reason to remove the ABS unit. Just plug the two lines that go to the ABS. I used cut off hex bolts & copper washers on mine. Mine is still full of brake fluid.
+1. Same deal. Just plugged off the lines and bypassed.

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hey All;

Asking again. I know its hard to come by, but you guys can find just about anything.
need the ABS module. part number 34517685803,
'2002 model.
I can reroute the brakes, thats not the issue, its all the electronics part, speedo, cruise etc.
I haven't been able to find a rebuild shop, usa or uk.
module master has told me a few months for years.

Zeke
Im not sure of 01 is the same.
I have a working 01 ABS unit just removed from bike,
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Re: abs

I checked my junk bin and the only unit I still have a board for is out of an R1150RT. I must have already given away the one from the LT unit that matched yours.

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post #14 of 22 Old Dec 2nd, 2019, 4:23 am
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I don't think I would consider going to non ABS. Just this morning (-1.5C) I felt the ABS kick in on my commute and I take it really carefully when it is freezing. That would have been a front wheel lockup and I would have been off.

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Okay, here is another company that will repair your unit:
https://www.ecu-rc.nl/
The guys on the Euro forum use it.

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I checked my junk bin and the only unit I still have a board for is out of an R1150RT. I must have already given away the one from the LT unit that matched yours.
thanks for searching;

while I have your guys attention.
Which 2 wires are we all cutting to stop the signal to stop the flashing light?

Thanks

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Okay, here is another company that will repair your unit:
https://www.ecu-rc.nl/
The guys on the Euro forum use it.
Thanks.
But they apparently do not repair for the USA.
I tried entering the info for repair request.
there is no choice for United States in the drop down.
If you try typing it in the form clears itself.
But I really appreciate the effort.

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thanks for searching;

while I have your guys attention.
Which 2 wires are we all cutting to stop the signal to stop the flashing light?

Thanks

Zeke
I didn't cut any wires I pulled the bulbs out & remove one relay.
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while I have your guys attention.
Which 2 wires are we all cutting to stop the signal to stop the flashing light?

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At the connector cut the Blue/Brown on pin 37 and the Blue/Yellow on pin 38.
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At the connector cut the Blue/Brown on pin 37 and the Blue/Yellow on pin 38.
thanks again, as usual, your the best.
Now if I can just get the speedo thing fixed, I'm good for another 300k miles.
Thanks.

Have a great holiday season with your family.

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At the connector cut the Blue/Brown on pin 37 and the Blue/Yellow on pin 38.
Does that work on 2008/2009 K1200LT models? I've heard that those require a different procedure to disable the blinking triangle idiot light.

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Does that work on 2008/2009 K1200LT models? I've heard that those require a different procedure to disable the blinking triangle idiot light.
Yes you have heard correctly that it is different for the 05 and up.

You cut Pin 9 Brown/Red (Triangle light) and pin 10 Brown/Yellow (ABS warning relay).

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