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post #1 of 18 Old Jun 10th, 2019, 2:24 pm Thread Starter
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Installed Bluetooth today

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It is a Yatour Bluetooth and hands free adapter for the E36 BMW etc. It uses the CD changer socket on the back of the radio and three wires to the big plug.

The 'phone aspect was no use to me as I just wanted A2DP audio so I left the mic unplugged. I expected more trouble than I got, so fairly painless really. I removed the curved blank over the top of the radio, added Velcro and installed the business end there.

It comes with a male/female adapter which is far too bulky so as there are only three wires, I cut it off and hardwired it. Pictures of the installation tomorrow!

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post #2 of 18 Old Jun 10th, 2019, 8:08 pm
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F262182674695

It is a Yatour Bluetooth and hands free adapter for the E36 BMW etc. It uses the CD changer socket on the back of the radio and three wires to the big plug.

The 'phone aspect was no use to me as I just wanted A2DP audio so I left the mic unplugged. I expected more trouble than I got, so fairly painless really. I removed the curved blank over the top of the radio, added Velcro and installed the business end there.

It comes with a male/female adapter which is far too bulky so as there are only three wires, I cut it off and hardwired it. Pictures of the installation tomorrow!

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Since this connects to the radio rather than the intercom, I assume it will not provide GPS directions through the BT audio, correct? I would really like to have the GPS and CB audio if I were to switch from wired headsets to BT.

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post #3 of 18 Old Jun 11th, 2019, 2:29 am Thread Starter
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My system is a bit more complex than that. I run a Starcom Digital as the "hub". The standard 'bike radio connects to the Radio input on the Starcom via a pair of isolating transformers and a pair of relays. The relays are operated by a toggle switch at the back so that there is a choise of Driver/Passenger or Driver, Passenger only from the radio. The music source is connected into the new Bluetooth module and so into the CD changer port on the 'bike radio.

GPS and cellphone is connected by Bluetooth into the Starcom via its own Bluetooth adapter and there is another adapter for passenger connection.

The PTT and Comms port has a Yaesu FT-10R motorcycle radio plugged in. So everything works to the (wired) headset from the Starcom. It may be possible to Bluetooth the Starcom heaset cable maybe, I would have to think about that. However I don't need to worry about charging headsets at the moment and prefer the wired system.

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One bit of bad news is that the bike seemed to have a low battery this morning. I have just found out that the module does not power down with ignition off, so that will be another major strip to rewire that to ign control.
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Well disaster has struck! According to the pinout, pin 5 is the 12V ACC feed. I connected the module power takeoff there and it started switching inputs and going off and on. I restarted everything and left it a few minutes to find the radio completely dead. It is powered correctly on it's input socket and all connectors are done up.

I took the control panel off to inspect, but nothing obvious. I suspect the control panel as the pin 5 actually goes into it but can't get any closer to a resolution without substitution testing. I can't find replacements at an affordable price either so I am a bit stuck.

Wasn't there a radio specialist in the UK I saw mentioned?

Otherwise, does anyone have a CD radio and control unit to sell me please?

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The guy is Baris in the UK. I'll see if I can find his info.

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post #7 of 18 Old Jun 16th, 2019, 5:23 am Thread Starter
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Well I couldn't find the problem so the radio and controller have gone for test and hopefully repair.

The destruction hasn't come to an end yet! Everything I touch lately becomes a disaster zone...

I decided to put power inside the top box. I did it with my last bike and don't remember anything very hard about it so off came the left rear speaker to expose the wiring. Found the brown ground and the purple/black ignition feed and checked that they were active, which they were. Drilled through and installed a Hella socket the other side. On test everything worked fine until I closed the lid. I tested everything and eventually realised that I had got the switched side of the courtesy light feed! Next stage was to look for a constant feed at the back of the lower top box plate's socket. That was fed through the grommet into the bottom of the top box and a socket fotted to the tray via a plug and socket. Lovely neat job.

When I connected the USB converter and my expensive Bluetooth receiver it didn't come on so I tried another USB converter which didn't work either. Must be a fuse so checked, no fault. Plugged my adapter into the front power sockets and still nothing. Checking with the multimeter showed power there so that was a head scratcher until I realised that I had wired the Hella socket backwards which is what destroyed the adapters and Blutooth module. I only got this when I noticed the Aux cable starting to get hot!

Honestly, sometimes I shouldn't leave the house without a carer. ;-)

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It appears (from Baris) that the radio survived at least. Just a matter of checking out the controller now. If that has died, I will be looking for a replacement.

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I think I have an answer we have been looking for There was a dealer at rally that was selling electronic stuff. He has made a cord that goes from our wire plug to the sena fire wire which will make everything bluetooth .I bought one I now have my cb,my nav,stearo, back was very happy I had an sm 10 that i plugged into passenger audio so they have bike radio with out having to listen to me chat on cb or gps.

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A further update... Baris tells me that the controller is fine, so it looks like something to do with the Stingray wiring. the i-Bus must be being held down somewhere, so further investigation required.

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I think I have an answer we have been looking for There was a dealer at rally that was selling electronic stuff. He has made a cord that goes from our wire plug to the sena fire wire which will make everything bluetooth .I bought one I now have my cb,my nav,stearo, back was very happy I had an sm 10 that i plugged into passenger audio so they have bike radio with out having to listen to me chat on cb or gps.
Not exactly sure what you mean here. Can you provide pictures? Which “wire plug” do you mean? The headset plug on the bike? A plug on the back of the intercom (and which intercom?)? A plug on the radio? Something else?

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Not exactly sure what you mean here. Can you provide pictures? Which “wire plug” do you mean? The headset plug on the bike? A plug on the back of the intercom (and which intercom?)? A plug on the radio? Something else?
It wasn't just me then! Sounds interesting but needs elucidation. ( I learn't that word off the TV. ;-) )

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OK sorry everyone if my description was bad ill try again. The plug that we plug our head set into for comms nav and what not that is outside of the tupperware on my bike to the left of the radio. Than this lets call it a patch cord goes to the small rechargeable free wire sena .That can be hard wired or just charged. I charge mine and throw it in the tank bag . When this free wire is paired with my sena 20 I now have all of my stuff that i use to use when I would plug my headset line into the bike.
Ie cb,nav, radio It worked really well. I already had a sena sm10 for music so the guy said if i plugged that into the rear outlet for comms for passenger that they would have bike radio but would not have to listen to cb,nav. This truly does make our bike bluetooth. I hope this helps.

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OK sorry everyone if my description was bad ill try again. The plug that we plug our head set into for comms nav and what not that is outside of the tupperware on my bike to the left of the radio. Than this lets call it a patch cord goes to the small rechargeable free wire sena .That can be hard wired or just charged. I charge mine and throw it in the tank bag . When this free wire is paired with my sena 20 I now have all of my stuff that i use to use when I would plug my headset line into the bike.
Ie cb,nav, radio It worked really well. I already had a sena sm10 for music so the guy said if i plugged that into the rear outlet for comms for passenger that they would have bike radio but would not have to listen to cb,nav. This truly does make our bike bluetooth. I hope this helps.
That was my first guess, but I wasn’t sure. Now two more questions:

1. Who was the dealer selling this cable?

2. Do you know if both helmets can be paired to one of the Sena units? I would not mind my wife also hearing the GPS commands as she often tries to talk to me when the GPS has cut her off and neither of us knows that at the time. Also, her helmet creates a ton of static when plugged in and I suspect her plug on the top case is bad as mine works fine, but if we swap helmet connections mine also makes static. So, I’d rather avoid using the rear plug if possible.

I am still not a BT fan, but since the newer bikes are BT only, I figure I might as well bite the bullet and buy BT headsets if I can use them with my LT and then I will be ready for my next bike.

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That was my reason also seems everything is bluetooth. The dealer said the free wire would only do the one helmet but there is not much on line to figure it out but a call to sena may help. Sierra electronics www.sierra-mc.com or 1800-338-6938 these folks were very nice. It would be nice if you didnt need that back plug. Before you buy anything ask there guy he seems to know alot. By the way I have been looking for this set up for 2 years nice to find it .

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That was my reason also seems everything is bluetooth. The dealer said the free wire would only do the one helmet but there is not much on line to figure it out but a call to sena may help. Sierra electronics www.sierra-mc.com or 1800-338-6938 these folks were very nice. It would be nice if you didnt need that back plug. Before you buy anything ask there guy he seems to know alot. By the way I have been looking for this set up for 2 years nice to find it .
Wow, that thing is pricey! I see adapter cords for Wings and Harleys, but not BMW. Any idea if your cord is one of these or did Sierra do a custom for the BMW?

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sorry been working yes they are but cheaper than a new bike. They made them up for us they used a harley one and changed pin set up.

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Some info on the loom power connector under the stingray. The truth table is with the meter negative direct to the battery, so ignore the very small voltages, they are just loom resistance.
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