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post #1 of 19 Old Jan 10th, 2007, 9:36 am Thread Starter
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Windshield Cleaner

Does anyone know anything about the windshield cleaner that is touted on this website? http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...ish/all-kleer/. It sounds good , but I noticed that it contains alcohol.


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post #2 of 19 Old Jan 10th, 2007, 9:42 am
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I've been using Plexus (available from most aircraft supplies shops) since I got my bike in June 2005, and am very pleased with it.

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I just called Blacklab (the makers of All-Kleer) and talked to the saleman. He said that the Kleer Chrome will be ready next week and he's going to put a package together for me of a bottle of All-Kleer and a bottle of Kleer Chrome. I don't know how much it'll cost, yet, but I'll write it all up when I get to use them. The chrome/aluminum polish will get a real workout because I was just given an '82 Suzuki GS550 that has some sad looking engine cases. Also, I just got another engine block (spare) for my R100RT and I'll test it out on that too.

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I'll second Plexus. Soften the bugs first, use a wet towel and luke warm water if available. Do not use paper towel products or any solvents. I use Micro fiber cloths. After cleaning and drying, a spray with Plexus both sides rubbed off with a micro cloth works a treat.

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post #6 of 19 Old Jan 10th, 2007, 3:15 pm
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I prefer Plexus on the windshield but have used Lemon Pledge. Pledge is cheaper and you can always find it on sale... But with either if you have water to loosen the dried stuff first it's easier on the plastic. If it chrome, aluminum or other metals you want to polish, try White Diamond multi-metal polish I got a bottle of this stuff in Daytona several years ago. For metal this stuff is great!

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Smile Windscreen Cleaner

This is what I do. Clean windscreen with protectall wash and then put on a coat of carnuba wax. Works for me.
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he's going to put a package together for me of a bottle of All-Kleer and a bottle of Kleer Chrome.
For the windshield ??????

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The Honda spray cleaner also works good on the bugs. Cleans the rest of the bike pretty well also.

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I'm with Bibleman. I'm pretty sure there is a warning in my owners manual to use nothing but H2O on the windshield. Anything else will eventually eat away at the protective coating.

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I used Plexis on a stock BMW windshield and it caused fogging. Serious fogging. I used hot water to remove it and use nothing but hot water and micro fiber cloths. Plexis works great on the HD windshield. They must be different materials or have different coatings.

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post #12 of 19 Old Jan 11th, 2007, 12:33 pm
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My '02 windshield was replaced under warranty after it delaminated. The service manager insisted that I must have done something inconsistent with BMW recommendations. When I mentioned using Plexus he said that's what did it. He wasn't going to authorize the replacement at that point. I then asked why the dealership themselves were selling Plexus for that very purpose. He immediately went over to the parts counter and said something about the Plexus, came back to me and said that they were going to do the replacement. I've used nothing but hot water since and not had any issues.

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I would advise anyone that uses Plexus on a 'standard' LT windscreen to use caution. There have been numerous posts both pro and con for Plexus. It is really dependant on where garage and where you ride. Plexus usage seems to give lots of people 'fogging' issues. The general consensus was that using Plexus traps moisture under the scratch cover and the only successful cure has been straight denatured alcohol application on the entire windscreen. That seems to 'dry' out the moisture.

I had the problem when I first got the LT. I'll admit Plexus works great but eventually I found it was the source of my windscreen fogging issues.

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I would advise anyone that uses Plexus on a 'standard' LT windscreen to use caution. There have been numerous posts both pro and con for Plexus.
19 months so far, and not a problem using it 1-2 times per week, during the riding season.

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I have a Cee Bailey's and Plexus it regularly. At times when I go to ride home at night, particularly later in the evening, when it gets cooler, the shield is dripping in condensation/fog. It is very heavy and takes miles to get off. I had the same problem with my old HD shield. But I can't remember what I cleaned that with.

Is this the fogging issue that folks speak of, or just normal condensation/dew?
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Cool Windshield and water

My experience is as follows for stock BMW windshields:

1. The Windshield has thin layers of film bonded to both sides via an adhesive. Using anthing other than water produces results that are less than predictable for the long term. No product, other than water, performs consistently all the time - as others have indicated and stated. Some work some don't.

2. As the windshield ages it takes on a fogging effect (the plastisers and other chemical agents leach out along with uv aging and other clarity agents are reduced as well) - then the windshield starts to trap moisture either in the film, in the adhesive layer or in the windshield directly. Using IPA (isopropoal alcohol) at most any concentration (IPA and water) helps dryout the outer film and draws the moisture out reducing the fogging. When applying IPA make sure you wait for the process to defog as it takes a little time. The ability to defog is different depending upon where you store your bike, where you ride and where you live. I would say people in Denver and mountain states have less of an issue but if your in the deep south you have different ambient conditions and will get different results.

3. The four other clear plastic components (side deflectors fixed and side deflectors that rotate) are different materials and you can apply just about anything you want to these - wax em, plexiglass, car wax, WD40 - with almost no issue.

My 2 cents . . .

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Smile Plexus makes me fog - but I still use it

Living in the desert I don't have a problem with the shield fogging so I like using Plexus because it helps to get the bugs off, BUT if I go to the coast were it is humid the shield will fog from the Plexus. So I sometime wash it off with hot water and a little soap and all is good.

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I usually use coca-cola on the windhsield. I let is set in over night. I also leave a a couple of bologne slices on their over night for good measure! Good luck!

I still use Brilianize (spelling ?) there are some other offer brands that look similiar to that product, But I have not tested them. I am happy with the Brilianize products and it works great out here in the NW!!!
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WATER - Nothing but water

Windshield is going on 3+ years and 26,000 miles with no fogging. If it is really dirty with bugs, then I simply soak a rag and let it sit for about 15 minutes. EVERYTHING wipes off and except for a few small scratches, it's in great shape. It is not necessary to use anything else or spend the money for commercial cleaners. A waste of money and does no good for the environment.

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