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Looking for a HID low bulb.

So there is lots of information on here about what works and what doesn't. What Kelvin number to use and to avoid one get one that has passive cooling.

Since all products change and improve over time I'm just wondering if there is some input on what works, why they like it, and where I can get it.

Your ability to shed light on this is much appreciated
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I switched from HID to LED. Simpler and better light - my opinion only.
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If you are looking for an HID replacement for your low beam on your 2000 LT, it takes a H7 and pretty much any brand will work as the bulbs are all about the same size and will fit with the wires coming out the back. You will need to cut a hole in the back cover for the wires to reach out to the starter/ballast as it won't fit under the cover. Phillips makes a good 4300K bulb that is very bright and more towards the normal yellowish tint of the light and will probably be in the 3000Lm + range. Xenon Depot had kits available and you could upgrade to the Phillips bulb last I looked a few years ago. 6000/6500K is white or white with a very slight blue tinge. Any higher and you are heading towards blue and purple. Cool to look at but not good to look with.

LED is another story Still an H7 and you want one that has the braided copper heat sink bands as there are no moving fan parts to fail. 6000K is the norm for those and you can find ones that will work on Amazon and Ebay. Going to post a particular one from Amazon that might be a good choice. 2500Lm is plenty bright for a low beam and the bright white 6K color really lights up signs and animal eyes It will make your stock HB pretty much useless but fixing that is another story.

This one is 2500Lm and 6500K. Comes as a pair so you have a spare should it ever die with is possible but not likely. This is the same form type and brightness I have installed but not the same mfg.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...Q3TN25W7&psc=1

This one is less expensive but gets brighter which may not be great for a low beam tending to blind oncoming vehicles.
3200Lm and 6000K. Still may be acceptable if aimed low enough.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...LZIEYM80&psc=1

last one is extremely bright for a LB at 4000Lm and 6000K Personally, I would not put this bright a bulb in as a low beam but it would fit. This one has a metal ballast case so unlike the previous two, I would not put this inside the light housing but with care, the ballast on the other two can be put inside and the rear cover placed back on to make it water proof again.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...6FU88VEX&psc=1

There are others that might fit but they all seem to be getting way too bright for a LB function.

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I'm about to do mine. I got a 5000k bulb & a 55w ballast.
It seem pretty straight forward to do.
I could not believe how poor the oem h7 was.
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I'm about to do mine. I got a 5000k bulb & a 55w ballast.
It seem pretty straight forward to do.
I could not believe how poor the oem h7 was.
Wait till you get the HID installed and you won't believe how poor the HB is against it Just don't go buy a 100W hallogen and try to upgrade the HB, the wires are barely enough to handle the 55W HB and you will melt the wires with a 100W bulb. Better to find a 35/55W HID with a fast start ballast or go LED but both require modifications to get them to fit and most H3 LED's simply will not work in the LT headlight HB position. I have a pile of them that just won't fit and one that does

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Wait till you get the HID installed and you won't believe how poor the HB is against it Just don't go buy a 100W hallogen and try to upgrade the HB, the wires are barely enough to handle the 55W HB and you will melt the wires with a 100W bulb. Better to find a 35/55W HID with a fast start ballast or go LED but both require modifications to get them to fit and most H3 LED's simply will not work in the LT headlight HB position. I have a pile of them that just won't fit and one that does
I put 100w H7 in my KTM nice and bright then i noticed what is that smell IT WAS ME wire are melting and the light fixture not good
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I put 100w H7 in my KTM nice and bright then i noticed what is that smell IT WAS ME wire are melting and the light fixture not good
Yep, the wires are not stout enough for a 100W bulb. Hope it was repairable. I too put a 100W bulb in the HB location but it still pailed to the 2500 Lumen LED and then I was told that the 100W would melt the wires so I took it out and went on a search for a viable H3 LED replacement. I finally found one I could make work but they come and go so quickly online as things change that it is difficult to recommend one unless I search today and post a link. Still requires significant mods as the LT 99-04? HB is so far recessed with an odd shaped reflector hole that nothing much is actually usable.

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If you are looking for an HID replacement for your low beam on your 2000 LT, it takes a H7 and pretty much any brand will work as the bulbs are all about the same size and will fit with the wires coming out the back. You will need to cut a hole in the back cover for the wires to reach out to the starter/ballast as it won't fit under the cover. Phillips makes a good 4300K bulb that is very bright and more towards the normal yellowish tint of the light and will probably be in the 3000Lm + range. Xenon Depot had kits available and you could upgrade to the Phillips bulb last I looked a few years ago. 6000/6500K is white or white with a very slight blue tinge. Any higher and you are heading towards blue and purple. Cool to look at but not good to look with.

LED is another story Still an H7 and you want one that has the braided copper heat sink bands as there are no moving fan parts to fail. 6000K is the norm for those and you can find ones that will work on Amazon and Ebay. Going to post a particular one from Amazon that might be a good choice. 2500Lm is plenty bright for a low beam and the bright white 6K color really lights up signs and animal eyes It will make your stock HB pretty much useless but fixing that is another story.

This one is 2500Lm and 6500K. Comes as a pair so you have a spare should it ever die with is possible but not likely. This is the same form type and brightness I have installed but not the same mfg.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...Q3TN25W7&psc=1

This one is less expensive but gets brighter which may not be great for a low beam tending to blind oncoming vehicles.
3200Lm and 6000K. Still may be acceptable if aimed low enough.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...LZIEYM80&psc=1

last one is extremely bright for a LB at 4000Lm and 6000K Personally, I would not put this bright a bulb in as a low beam but it would fit. This one has a metal ballast case so unlike the previous two, I would not put this inside the light housing but with care, the ballast on the other two can be put inside and the rear cover placed back on to make it water proof again.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...6FU88VEX&psc=1

There are others that might fit but they all seem to be getting way too bright for a LB function.
Currently there is no HID installed so the back cover of the headlight is still in tact.
With that in mind should I consider LED? I thought that they ran hot and melted the housing, (not the wire)

I'll run LED in both high and low if it helps.

I would like my high beam to blind everyone coming the other way because I'll be turning it off when a car approaches but leaving it on for deer.
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Currently there is no HID installed so the back cover of the headlight is still in tact.
With that in mind should I consider LED? I thought that they ran hot and melted the housing, (not the wire)

I'll run LED in both high and low if it helps.

I would like my high beam to blind everyone coming the other way because I'll be turning it off when a car approaches but leaving it on for deer.
Here is a good thread to read through.

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/k1200lt/...ght-blubs.html

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Wow that was a read. Thanks
Seems like I am much more knowledgeable and no closer to a decisive decision.
I was surprised that the girl on the youtube video had the advantage of LED's as being low heat. Thought I read here somewhere that it was the opposite.
I think I'm just going to go with what my car has HID low and LED High.
But first I'll start with the Low
H3 35W 4300K I'll let you know how it goes.
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Wow that was a read. Thanks
Seems like I am much more knowledgeable and no closer to a decisive decision.
I was surprised that the girl on the youtube video had the advantage of LED's as being low heat. Thought I read here somewhere that it was the opposite.
I think I'm just going to go with what my car has HID low and LED High.
But first I'll start with the Low
H3 35W 4300K I'll let you know how it goes.
The Low is an H7 on the single light fixture equipped early models not an H3. Make sure you get the right one for your fixture.

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The Low is an H7 on the single light fixture equipped early models not an H3. Make sure you get the right one for your fixture.
Well it seems that you are correct. Damn. Good thing I didn't buy a Phillips.
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Whew. It was a typo. Just checked my order H7 : )
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HID all installed and looks good.
Pulled out a burned out 100W Blue Bulb. Wires were NOT fried thankfully
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Re: Looking for a HID low bulb.

I see your 3 bulb options options at costing 200$ / 90$ / 120$

How about these for 50$ or 70$ on Amazone.
What are the differences anyway, other than specific lumens?

Headlight-Conversion-Flicker-Decoder-Veloster/dp/B078Q4N5JV/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1526647088&veh icle=1999-31-18248-20-----14280------2-0&sr=1-3&keywords=h7+led&dpID=61G2Njccz1L&preST=_SY300_QL 70_&dpSrc=srch

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I see your 3 bulb options options at costing 200$ / 90$ / 120$

How about these for 50$ or 70$
What are the differences anyway, other than specific lumens?

Headlight-Conversion-Flicker-Decoder-Veloster/dp/B078Q4N5JV/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1526647088&veh icle=1999-31-18248-20-----14280------2-0&sr=1-3&keywords=h7+led&dpID=61G2Njccz1L&preST=_SY300_QL 70_&dpSrc=srch

Headlight-Conversion-Flicker-Canbus-Decoder/dp/B071W237Y4/ref=sr_1_6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1526647088&veh icle=1999-31-18248-20-----14280------2-0&sr=1-6&keywords=h7+led
Stephaneb100, you didn't post a usable link for me to look at.

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Sorry, I'm a new user and the forum does not let me paste a working link

Try writing amazon dot ca slash in front of the links:
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Sorry, I'm a new user and the forum does not let me paste a working link

Try writing amazon dot ca slash in front of the links:
OK, got to one of those links. If you were putting a 6000Lm /bulb out of 12000 total I assume as these usually come in pairs, in a non projector type headlight, you would likely blind everyone coming at you potentially even in the daytime. Will they fit, yes even though it shows unavailable. Remember, you can't turn off your low beam on an LT so putting an overly bright bulb in might sound like a good idea but in reality, it isn't the best idea and will most likely get people ( like me) flashing my HB at you as it is terribly obnoxious and dangerous as people can't see the road ahead of them. The LT has a pretty good high line cut off but is pretty wide so will impact oncommers in the adjacent lane. My recommendation is to find one 3000 or below with 2500 being better. You will be amazed at how bright that is compared to the 55W Halogen. Then you can work on finding a HB that will fit in the LT HB fixture HID or LED that will blaze the daylights out of the scenery. My HB LED is 4800Lm but it can be turned off so not to damage oncoming retinas. These are my opinions so I am not really inviting others to debate about whether a brighter light is better or worse as yes, brighter is better within reason. Next time you are driving down the road and see some car or truck with ungodly bright non projector headlights, ask yourself, do you want to be that guy? Hope this helps you make a decision on a bulb that works for you and also those around you.

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Re: Looking for a HID low bulb.

So the $46 ones are 4000LM/Bulb (total:8000LM/set) and the 65$ ones are 3000LM/Bulb (total:6000LM/set).
I totally got your point for the 4000LM. But would the 3000LM be ok?
And does the brand actually make a difference? Is there something woth talking about beyond the numbers?

Now, what about the high beams? Any other recommendation?

What about for $65 4800LM/Bulb (total:9600LM/set), 60 watt
amazone dot ca slash ROADSUN-Headlight-Philips-Dissipation-Conversion/dp/B0778M1261/ref=sr_1_24?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1526666159&sr =1-24&keywords=h3+led

or $46$ 3200LM/Bulb (total:6400LM/set), 40 watt
amazone dot ca slash KAWELL-LED-Headlight-Bulbs-Conversion/dp/B01JYU444E/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=152666615 9&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=h3+led&psc=1
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So the $46 ones are 4000LM/Bulb (total:8000LM/set) and the 65$ ones are 3000LM/Bulb (total:6000LM/set).
I totally got your point for the 4000LM. But would the 3000LM be ok?
And does the brand actually make a difference? Is there something woth talking about beyond the numbers?

Now, what about the high beams? Any other recommendation?

What about for $65 4800LM/Bulb (total:9600LM/set), 60 watt
amazone dot ca slash ROADSUN-Headlight-Philips-Dissipation-Conversion/dp/B0778M1261/ref=sr_1_24?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1526666159&sr =1-24&keywords=h3+led

or $46$ 3200LM/Bulb (total:6400LM/set), 40 watt
amazone dot ca slash KAWELL-LED-Headlight-Bulbs-Conversion/dp/B01JYU444E/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=152666615 9&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=h3+led&psc=1
The only direct fit I have found for the H3 HB on the early LT is an HID and unless you find one with a really fast start, IMO are unsuitable as it takes many seconds for them to get bright enough to be of much use when you need them fast. The issue with the HB fixture is that it is deeply recessed H3 and has several parts that go into the hole to align and stabilize the bulb. The hole in the reflector is square with notches in it to receive the bulb holder which is required so most bulbs will simply not fit through the odd shaped hole. There are some with a narrow LED stem but most of those are too long to easily find a way to secure them into the hole. I have several failed attempts I found one that would fit through the hole that had a short enough shank that I could get the clip over the back and tie it in with a tie wrap. These show up in bunches and then disappear making any old links I have useless as they are no longer available and not coming back in that particular form/part number. It also required shortening of the metal carrier to allow the bulb to fit all the way to the front where it could be properly stabilized making it a one way mod. I used aluminum duct tape to hold the parts together and saved the plastic on the back should I ever want to go back to another type of bulb. I was winging it so I failed to document the process and when I got it together, I just left it. If you are looking for plug and play, HID is the easiest but still requires cutting a hole in the back cover. LED's are simply not made for the H3 socket on the LT headlight so you will need to be creative. Just make something that is stable and safe.

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So the $46 ones are 4000LM/Bulb (total:8000LM/set) and the 65$ ones are 3000LM/Bulb (total:6000LM/set).
I totally got your point for the 4000LM. But would the 3000LM be ok?
And does the brand actually make a difference? Is there something woth talking about beyond the numbers?

Now, what about the high beams? Any other recommendation?

What about for $65 4800LM/Bulb (total:9600LM/set), 60 watt
amazone dot ca slash ROADSUN-Headlight-Philips-Dissipation-Conversion/dp/B0778M1261/ref=sr_1_24?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1526666159&sr =1-24&keywords=h3+led

or $46$ 3200LM/Bulb (total:6400LM/set), 40 watt
amazone dot ca slash KAWELL-LED-Headlight-Bulbs-Conversion/dp/B01JYU444E/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=152666615 9&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=h3+led&psc=1
I went with Extreme Vision Bulbs. $30 for two on Amazon. I only need one so I have an extra for whenever it quits. I went with the 4300 LM because I don't want a blue tone
, but even at that, they still have a blue hugh.
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I went with Extreme Vision Bulbs. $30 for two on Amazon. I only need one so I have an extra for whenever it quits. I went with the 4300 LM because I don't want a blue tone
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Probably a safe bet for plug and play if they are the 55W ones I found on a quick search. You may want to carry that spare if you ride at night a lot as the high performance bulbs like that have a limited lifespan somewhere around 450 hours. Burns brighter but for a shorter time.

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Probably a safe bet for plug and play if they are the 55W ones I found on a quick search. You may want to carry that spare if you ride at night a lot as the high performance bulbs like that have a limited lifespan somewhere around 450 hours. Burns brighter but for a shorter time.
It was the H7 low beam 35watt. I currently don't ride much at night but I'm hoping the high beam that I install next will scare away any deer that want to run into me
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