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transmission oil change

i can change the engine oil and final drive oil by following really good instructions from the advice found on our forum.
please advise about the trans.
is this something i can do also? and how?
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post #2 of 16 Old Dec 19th, 2006, 4:32 pm
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Your best bet is to pick up a service manual. BMW makes a good one (though pricey), and Clymer also makes a manual for the LT now.

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Changing the transmission fluid is relatively easy. This link descrribes how to modify an empty oil bottle to simplify the job.

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Your best bet is to pick up a service manual.
Although buying/owning the service manual is great, I hardly think one needs it to change the tranny fluid. But that's you rich guys for ya.
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It's quite easy as astuber says. You will need a 14mm hex wrench which is available at some auto part stores. If you search for "14mm" you will find some links.

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i can change the engine oil and final drive oil by following really good instructions from the advice found on our forum.
please advise about the trans.
is this something i can do also? and how?
new'b'mw.
02 1200 lt

thanks
scrc 361

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I just bought the "OEM Hex Bit Set, 1/2" Drive Metric" (Allen) socket at Auto Zone yesterday. I had to call two before I could find it. Most places don't carry it. It came in a package with a 12mm, 14mm (the one you need) and 17mm. It cost $9.99.

I used AMSOIL 75W90 Severe Gear Lube as it is warrantied for double the recommended change interval. This was important to me as you will soon find out if you do it yourself.

Put down some absorbant puppy training pads available at Walmart. I'm messy.

The Clymer BMW K1200RS, GT & LT 1998-2005 has pretty good directions for most procedures and is easier to follow and less expensive than the BMW service manual.
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IMO, a service manual is good, but Paul Sayegh's DVDs are even better for a newby who wants a comprehensive how-to of basic maintenance.

http://www.sayegh.org/bmw/service-video.htm
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As most here can attest my mechanical knowledge is, shall we say, "limited". However, I purchased the Paul Sayegh videos, bought the tools and have found that I can do most of the routine maintenance pretty well. Saves a lot of money. The videos are great for non-mechanical types as he shows you exactly what to expect when you attempt the chores yourself. The investment in the videos and tools paid for themselves during the first maintenance. For the tranny, other than having to remove the muffler bracket, it is about the same as an oil change. Good luck.

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Although buying/owning the service manual is great, I hardly think one needs it to change the tranny fluid. But that's you rich guys for ya.
A service manual is just another tool. You can't change the tranny fluid without some sort of a 14mm hex socket, piece of All-thread, or 9/16" bolt/nut combo, so why wouldn't you consider proper instructions just as essential?

I'm all for enabling garage mechanics to do their own maintenance. It helps you get familiar with your bike, and can give you piece of mind that the work is done right (I'll take far more time and care on my bike than a mechanic working on an hourly rate would). But you have to be realistic, and know your own limitations. Some guys are great mechanics with years of experience, and some guys admittedly can't change a light bulb without a three-page manual with full color pics.

I have a fair amount of mechanical and electrical experience, and I'm not afraid to tackle just about anything on this bike. But I'm not a doctor, or architect, or chef, so when I need those services, I call in for professional help.

We've been pretty good here about writing up detailed instructions for common service tasks, and offering instant help on almost any topic imaginable. I've attended or hosted numerous tech sessions and always share my knowledge freely to anyone interested. Some guys learn how to do things on their own, and some just like to see it done so they can be more informed when talking with their dealer. But we've also had a few serious problems from folks getting in way too deep and making simple mistakes that cost them downtime and dollars to repair. Not to mention the possibility of a safety-related failure, which I hate to think about.

So again, if you're going to do any real work on your bike, get the proper tools, including a quality manual (for about an hour's labor charge). Or leave it to someone you trust.

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As most here can attest my mechanical knowledge is, shall we say, "limited". However, I purchased the Paul Sayegh videos, bought the tools and have found that I can do most of the routine maintenance pretty well. Saves a lot of money. The videos are great for non-mechanical types as he shows you exactly what to expect when you attempt the chores yourself. The investment in the videos and tools paid for themselves during the first maintenance. For the tranny, other than having to remove the muffler bracket, it is about the same as an oil change. Good luck.
I never removed any muffler bracket to change the tran oil. Why would you?
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HarvRead - I believe the muffler bracket he is talking about is that long cylindrical object just below the transmission drain plug that has two "wires" leading to the muffer bracket itself which is attached to the muffler. I thought on my 2000 I was able to take out the bolt just below the transmission drain plug and loosen the other end attached to the muffler and just move it out of the way. On my 2006 I had to remove the muffler bracket thingycompletely. Geez, why didn't they just put the drain and fill plugs where you can easily get to them without having to remove the footpeg assembly, lower grey fairing, skid plate, muffler bracket, etc.? It would be cool if someone made a transmission drain plug extension that routed it out into the open with a valve and drill an access hole through the foot peg assembly. Hmmmm.....
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HarvRead - I believe the muffler bracket he is talking about is that long cylindrical object just below the transmission drain plug that has two "wires" leading to the muffer bracket itself which is attached to the muffler. I thought on my 2000 I was able to take out the bolt just below the transmission drain plug and loosen the other end attached to the muffler and just move it out of the way. On my 2006 I had to remove the muffler bracket thingycompletely. Geez, why didn't they just put the drain and fill plugs where you can easily get to them without having to remove the footpeg assembly, lower grey fairing, skid plate, muffler bracket, etc.? It would be cool if someone made a transmission drain plug extension that routed it out into the open with a valve and drill an access hole through the foot peg assembly. Hmmmm.....
What he said.

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try to get local help the first time

All of the instructions on this site have helped me to perform countless tasks on the bike from the 3 basic fluid changes to installing HID lighting to installing a Remus Muffler, to a GPS, etc., BUT the first time I tried anything, I had help and attended a local wrenching session. That was the best and got me off to a good start. If there is not one in your area, get out the word and it is quit possible there are several in your area that have done the task or will help you learn. It is worth the effort for many reasons.

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I never removed any muffler bracket to change the tran oil. Why would you?
Harv... on my '05, there is a stabilizer bracket for the muffler which blocks access to the "gearbox" plug.

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