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post #1 of 18 Old Dec 14th, 2006, 3:40 pm Thread Starter
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Has anyone replaced the hydraulic center stand for a manual one?

I am thinking of buying a new K1200LT and in the 3-4 years that I have owned my 2002, I only use the center stand when working on the bike. I have never just parked it that way. I always use the side stand. I was thinking of replacing the hydraulic center stand with the standard manual one and wondered if any one has done this? The hydraulic stand seems like a lot of unnecessary hardware.

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post #2 of 18 Old Dec 14th, 2006, 3:43 pm
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I have the opposite experience. Let me know if you decide to switch and are interested in parting with the Hydraulic version. Thanks
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Dan,

There was a post from Dejan about converting his 02 to a hydraulic center stand. It sounded like a direct bolt in.

Should work in reverse as well.

I wouldn't part with mine, but, you should be able to find someone to purchase it.

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You may want to give the hydraulic center stand a chance,
I felt much like you do, who needs it?
Now that I have had one for a while, I like it, it's a lot of fun to use,
I love the looks I get from the HD crowd when I put it up on the stand while my wife and I are still seated.

And before somebody chimes in to tell me the manual says not to do it while seated, let me explain,
I'm tall enough that I can stand while the bike is on the stand so it's deceiving,
it only looks like it's lifting both of us when it's actually only lifting the bike and my 100 lb wife.


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I am thinking of buying a new K1200LT and in the 3-4 years that I have owned my 2002, I only use the center stand when working on the bike. I have never just parked it that way. I always use the side stand. I was thinking of replacing the hydraulic center stand with the standard manual one and wondered if any one has done this? The hydraulic stand seems like a lot of unnecessary hardware.
One problem you would have is there is no place to put a handle for raising it on the stand. I am like you I only use it when working on the bike. When I park it in my garage I have a wheeldock that I part it in. But I am like Dan says, after having it I really like it. If I had a bike with the no warranty and the stand failed I would be looking at a way to replace it with standard manual before paying for complete hydraulic stand. BMW does not show any repair just replace the unit. I am sure it could be repaired.

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Hmmmmmm No Side Handle

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One problem you would have is there is no place to put a handle for raising it on the stand. I am like you I only use it when working on the bike. When I park it in my garage I have a wheeldock that I part it in. But I am like Dan says, after having it I really like it. If I had a bike with the no warranty and the stand failed I would be looking at a way to replace it with standard manual before paying for complete hydraulic stand. BMW does not show any repair just replace the unit. I am sure it could be repaired.
Thanks Jerry, Didn't think about the side handle. That might be a problem. May have to reconsider. Thanks

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The Hydraulic center stand is one of the nicest features of the LT. It adds stabillity when dismounting the bike, especially with a passenger. You know the bike is firmly planted and there is no fumbling around with the center stand while you are standing beside the bike. I also thought it was silly before I bought the bike two years ago. I would not want to be without it now.
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I use mine all the time and love it. It is very nice when the bike is loaded or two up and never strains at this. I would never try it while not seated on the bike. When I say seated it means stradleing the bike with my feel on the ground to make sure the the bike is not at an angle.

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Thanks Jerry, Didn't think about the side handle. That might be a problem. May have to reconsider. Thanks
You could always use the sidebag grab handle ?????



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Try it, you'll like it. That's how I park Misty almost all the time.

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I am one of the few who have changed to a power center stand on my 02. Having lived with the manual center stand for the first three years I can understand the "why you need that?" comment. Having to deal with a fully loaded bike ( for two) for two weeks, was a hand full. After having the power center stand life is so much easer I will never go back! I liken it to the remote door locks on my truck, never needed that until I got a remote now use it ever day and love it.
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I have an 05 and the stands hydrualic pump quit. The Pinnacle policy will not cover it! What a great policy. I miss the stand terribly but don't have the 1000.00 for a new one but Ebay has some once in a while and will eventually pick one up there. They're great, when they work! Parking on the kick stand means a lot of smoke in the AM when I start her. Went on a 7500 mile trip this year and found that 2 people can put the bike on center stand by each putting a foot on the stands leg bottom and pulling rearward while holding luggage handles. My dealer tried getting BMW to step up to the plate but no luck. to many miles past warranty. I was at about 42,000 when it happened. Oh well! The price of a fancy machine.

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Didn't think about the side handle. That might be a problem.
I never use the built-in handle on my '02, and I use the centerstand frequently. The saddlebag handle works just fine.

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A hydraulic centre stand is like a GPS.

You wonder how you managed, before getting one.
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post #15 of 18 Old Dec 15th, 2006, 5:30 am
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There's a side stand on the LT!?!?

I love the hydralic center stand and is the only way I park the bike. I probably only use the side stand once a month if I'm moving the bike around in the garage.

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I can't imagine lowering the value of my '05 by removing the improved hydraulic center stand system. You know that cloud of blue smoke that pours out of your pipe when the bike has been parked on the sidestand for a while? Well, when you use the center stand, there is no smoke, because the crankcase oil doesn't settle in the combustion chambers.

For what it's worth, that my $.02!

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Rewiring the Engine Kill Switch

The side stand and center stand are on the same apparatus. If you switch out the center stand, the soldering of the three little wires that run to the side-stand kill switch is a b!tch. I know; I did it yesterday. Notice my hand holding the soldering iron trying to get to those wires. Insulating them properly (they're about an inch from the exhaust and will see lots of rain) is pure joy.



But I'm adding the power stand, not taking it off. [write up to come this week]

Is it really that beneficial to remove your hardware? Are you going to notice the 5 lbs or so extra weight savings? Are you willing to degrade the resale value of the bike? Is there a value to your four or five hours of labor? I'd just leave well-enough alone.

But there's certainly a market for retrofitters on here if you do remove it.

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I realize that this is an older thread, but I also know that several of you are looking for electric center stand for retrofitting on pre-2005 bikes.

I have two new take-off center stands from bikes that have been triked. I also have one available that has already been retrofitted to an older bike that was subsequently wrecked (rider is OK).

PM me for details, or email me at deputy5211 at LTParts dot com .

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