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post #1 of 23 Old Jul 5th, 2017, 7:28 am Thread Starter
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Center stand cut off

Well the center stand was cut off my 1999 k1200LT before I got it.

Time and time again this has turned out to be a nuisance of epic proportions. What's my best bet with finding a replacement?

I read a few threads about retrofitting with the electric one, but I would be extremely happy to find just a stock stand. Anyone update their stand and want to sell their old one sitting in their shop?

I tried to put this is the classified section but don't have the proper permissions.

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post #2 of 23 Old Jul 5th, 2017, 7:31 am
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/263053543459


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This one is complete and cheap


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I've seen manual center stands all over ebay.
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45$ for over 500 worth of parts, no brainer.

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45$ for over 500 worth of parts, no brainer.
You mean $45 for $150 worth of parts that BMW charges $500 for.

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I know, yeah, expensive, but the same problem happens at the Honda shop. Parts for BMW's have taken a serious jump since last fall if you go through the parts lists. I now plan to order expensive stuff from Germany and just pay the shipping and duty, still will save a bit. But I do have a collection of EBay spares on the shelf.
So let us know when you get your center stand back on line. It will really make a big difference to whomever changes your tires.

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Thanks a lot for the advice. I will check out eBay. It was on a tire change that not having it caused the most problems. Just checking the oil is a pain. It looks like the mounts are there so shouldn't be too hard. The hardest part will be getting up under it to work on the stand.


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Thanks a lot for the advice. I will check out eBay. It was on a tire change that not having it caused the most problems. Just checking the oil is a pain. It looks like the mounts are there so shouldn't be too hard. The hardest part will be getting up under it to work on the stand.


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I can't imagine an LT with no centerstand. What a pain! I also can't imagine someone stupid enough to remove an LT centerstand. You should track him down, bury him in the ground to is neck beside a fire and hill and coat his lips with honey.
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The hardest part will be getting up under it to work on the stand.
You can mount the center stand with it on the side stand, as I did when my EHCS was not working. I could get it on the CS manually with difficulty to change the tire, can't imagine how you would change it without a stand.

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I have improvised on bikes with no center stand. Not for wheel removal but desire to have it vertical to check things out. 4 ropes tied to strong points on the bike and attached to ceiling points in the carport. Staying vertical does not require 1000 pound test rope. A good 3/8 or 1/2 will do fine. As long as you can tie decent knots. A thought.
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The only reason I can see an LT owner removing the center stand is if he got tired of scraping it in the turns, particularly if he was riding two-up. He should have replaced the springs on the suspension to get a better ride.

Maritimer, if you are located in the Canadian Maritimes, I may be able to sell you my old one, deliver it and lend you the rear wheel stand that I built when I put in the EHCS five years ago. I'll be traveling there at the end of August and coming back in September so that would give you some time to install it. Email me and we will find a price that suits us both.

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I purchased the one on EBAY.. Other that the normal about of dirt. It is in perfect condition. Why they had that copper tube on the side stand peg, i do not know. I pulled it off and it is the same as the one on my bike. I will rebuild this one and grease the pivots.. Then on my original one I will do the same and sell it on EBAY for what they go for.
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Thanks a lot for the advice. I will check out eBay. It was on a tire change that not having it caused the most problems. Just checking the oil is a pain. It looks like the mounts are there so shouldn't be too hard. The hardest part will be getting up under it to work on the stand.


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Checking the oil on the LT is done on the side stand not the center stand.
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Checking the oil on the LT is done on the side stand not the center stand.
Wrong.
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You are both right and wrong.

It can be checked either on the center stand or on the side stand per the page posted by Voyager.

You just read the full level differently - top on the center stand, middle on the side stand.

Place on center stand...upper ring marking = MAX, lower ring marking = MIN

"Note: The centre of the inspection glass corresponds to the MAX fill level if the motorcycle is standing on its side stand."

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You are both right and wrong.

It can be checked either on the center stand or on the side stand per the page posted by Voyager.

You just read the full level differently - top on the center stand, middle on the side stand.

Place on center stand...upper ring marking = MAX, lower ring marking = MIN

"Note: The centre of the inspection glass corresponds to the MAX fill level if the motorcycle is standing on its side stand."
I disagree. A note is used for additional information or unusual conditions. The main text provides the recommended procedure which is on the center stand for the LT and vertically for every other bike I've owned that lacked a center stand. The bikes lacking center stands had dipsticks which made it relatively easy to check the level while astride the bike holding it vertical on a level surface. The LT would require an assistant if the centerstand was inoperative

My 2007 owners manual doesn't even have the side stand note that is contained in the service manual. It simply says to use the center stand. The reason is that the side stand is highly variable and unreliable. It is affected by the load on the bike, the spring preload, tire pressure, age (sag) of the springs, speed with which you leaned the bike onto the side stand (due to stiction), and probably other variables I'm not thinking of at the moment.

It is incorrect to recommend using the side stand for oil level checks. Sure, use it in a pinch to get an idea if you have some amount of oil in the engine and not grossly overfilled, but it is not an accurate method and should be considered as a crude backup check if for some reason the correct method can't be used.
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On the older bikes you can check oil on both stands but the 05 and up has the bike at a steeper angel so you will see nothing on the side stand.

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On the older bikes you can check oil on both stands but the 05 and up has the bike at a steeper angel so you will see nothing on the side stand.
Taking from what John has said, this is from the manual for the 2000LT.
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Taking from what John has said, this is from the manual for the 2000LT.
The center stand is still the recommended procedure. The side stand level is simply an informational note, not part of the recommended procedure. And it only shows that you have too much oil, not that you are below the minimum. You could be above the minimum and not even show on the sidestand.

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I HAVE PUT UP FOR SALE a completly rebuilt centerstand / sidestand for a 99-2004 BMW K1200LT

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