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post #1 of 10 Old Nov 18th, 2006, 2:50 pm Thread Starter
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Unhappy Another repair

It's another joyful day in my house. I noticed a spot of oil under the bike last week. I looed like it could be a leak at the oil pan (that's what I wanted to see) but it was very close to the engine,transmission junction.

I rode the bike to the shop today for a 6,000 mile service plus new throttle cables and asked then to check out the leak as well.

I then get the call.... After a partial disassembly to get a better look they are thinking it could be a main seal. Damn! Depending on the extent of what they find, it could cost as much as $1400 for parts and labor.

I really love this bike but let's inventory the repair history:

Steering Damper @ 18,000 mi (Warranty)
Windshield Delaminate @ 15,000 mi (Warranty)
ABS Module @ 30,000 mi ($2,150)
Rear End @ 33,000 mi ($550, BMW cover the other half of the $1,100 Bill)
Throttle Cables @ 54,000 mi ($490)
Main Seal, Clutch, Etc? @ 54,000 Mi (Maybe $1,400)

Always dealer serviced on the factory schedule which costs approx .083/mile: $4,482

Add to that tires, shocks, brake pads and other consumables. This thing costs as much as a woman.

There is no point here. I just felt like whinning.

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It's another joyful day in my house. I noticed a spot of oil under the bike last week. I looed like it could be a leak at the oil pan (that's what I wanted to see) but it was very close to the engine,transmission junction.

I rode the bike to the shop today for a 6,000 mile service plus new throttle cables and asked then to check out the leak as well.

I then get the call.... After a partial disassembly to get a better look they are thinking it could be a main seal. Damn! Depending on the extent of what they find, it could cost as much as $1400 for parts and labor.

I really love this bike but let's inventory the repair history:

Steering Damper @ 18,000 mi (Warranty)
Windshield Delaminate @ 15,000 mi (Warranty)
ABS Module @ 30,000 mi ($2,150)
Rear End @ 33,000 mi ($550, BMW cover the other half of the $1,100 Bill)
Throttle Cables @ 54,000 mi ($490)
Main Seal, Clutch, Etc? @ 54,000 Mi (Maybe $1,400)

Always dealer serviced on the factory schedule which costs approx .083/mile: $4,482

Add to that tires, shocks, brake pads and other consumables. This thing costs as much as a woman.

There is no point here. I just felt like whinning.
Hi bob204bc,

I ride both my woman and my "03 LT and I enjoy the heck out of both regardless of the costs. Part of life, I figure.

No one ever said life was fair!

After your next ride, you'll feel much better.

Onward and Upward.


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The two things that jump out at me are the ABS module failing that early, if at all. That would upset me too!

The other is the cost you stated for the throttle cable replacement. That seems totally out of line if they did not do other work at the same time! If that was all that was done, you would have been much better off scheduling the cable raplacement at a 12K interval service, when most of the labor is going to be done for the service anyway, with about an extra hour added for the cable replacement.

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[QUOTE=I then get the call.... After a partial disassembly to get a better look they are thinking it could be a main seal. Damn! Depending on the extent of what they find, it could cost as much as $1400 for parts and labor. I just felt like whinning.[/QUOTE]

I understand how you feel. These can be high cost maintenance rides. Just bailed my 99 out of the shop today for main tranny seal(s) repairs, repl clutch, both shocks, slave cylinder, fuel & air filter, all for onl $2800 parts and labor. This is after 60,000+ miles of almost trouble free riding. I guess it all equals what one enjoys for the experience.

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This is a perfect example why I may simply get a new bike every 2 to 3 years. Sure they depreciate. But all I do is make payments. All work falls under the warranty, and I don't have to shell out the big bucks if/when the big items fail. And no, I ain't one for extended warranties either. Basically...I just want to ride the things.

Gas, oil, tires, lather, rinse, and repeat.
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I understand your position. Let's see, 2800/36=77 per month plus the depreciation and profit on your trades, does that equal your payment? Just curious.

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Totally agree. That is one of the reasons why I sold a perfect running 03 and bought an 05. Plus the upgraded GPS, upgraded BMW communication system and new tires just waiting to be worn out that came with an updated model didn't hurt. I originally went in to schedule the 24,000 mile service, along with a brake and clutch flush. That's approximately a 1000 dollars service cost that went to the new ride rather then service the old one.

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This is a perfect example why I may simply get a new bike every 2 to 3 years. Sure they depreciate. But all I do is make payments. All work falls under the warranty, and I don't have to shell out the big bucks if/when the big items fail. And no, I ain't one for extended warranties either. Basically...I just want to ride the things.

Gas, oil, tires, lather, rinse, and repeat.

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Thanks for your comments. I was just ranting a bit. This is still the best of the nine bikes I've owned in my 35 years of riding. It's just the most expensive to maintain.

I don't have a payment on this bike. Never did (except for the first one). It has never let me down.

I was thinking about selling it and buying a GS. I guess, with this repair, I'll keep it at least another riding season. My wife doesn't like the GS anyway....

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I understand your position. Let's see, 2800/36=77 per month plus the depreciation and profit on your trades, does that equal your payment? Just curious.
Umm...I think you left a few things out of that equation. But whatever...I'll just ride my '06 GT until the next bike comes along.
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I understand your position. Let's see, 2800/36=77 per month plus the depreciation and profit on your trades, does that equal your payment? Just curious.

to give you a answer, I had thought about trading off more often myself as I used to put quite a few miles on a bike each year

it did not work out,


the depreciation was so high for a "new (or under a year old bike) that was out of warranty mileage already that it would cost more to replace the bike out of pocket each year then it would maintenance and repair, that is the reason I went with an extended warranty if it could be haggled with the price of the bike.

at one point I had even tried pricing trading in to a new bike every 12k miles
(just before I had to lay out the money for the 12k service and tires) that way I basically only had to do a 600 mile and 6k mile service on the bike

at the time that would have been more than 3 times a year
it would have been financially stupid to do that, even with a decent discount on a new purchase.

So far my LT has been fairly inexpensive to own 134k on it in 4 years very little out of pocket expense
- not including maintenance, (tires, brakes, services)

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