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post #1 of 30 Old Nov 25th, 2016, 12:29 pm Thread Starter
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Headed home last night at about 7 pm. Two miles from the house, running about 60 mph. Saw one go between me and the car I was following, and then there was one right there crossing the centerline - hit the brakes and BAM! and my lights pretty much all go out but I am still upright and riding. Mirror hanging from the wire. Never took me off my line. Didn't even touch me. Rode her on home. Didn't know it hit the saddlebag until later. Somehow, even the taillight was broken and the brake lights are on, "Brake Failure" light flashing on key, preventing me from getting her up on the EHCS.

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post #2 of 30 Old Nov 25th, 2016, 12:57 pm
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Re: Hit a deer

It is aggravating but glad you are OK. Many have died as from a deer collision.

Last week one LEAPED into the front right of my truck, rolled to and dented the passenger door setting off the driver & passenger full curtain and seat side impact airbags.
1000.00 body damage, 6700.00 airbag related damage.
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Deer are so unpredictable. I saw one the other day, in the daylight, and started looking for others but it was a loner.
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Damn. I'm glad you were not injured.

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[QUOTE=alabrew;1658946]Headed home last night at about 7 pm. Two miles from the house, running about 60 mph. Saw one go between me and the car I was following, and then there was one right there crossing the centerline - hit the brakes and BAM! and my lights pretty much all go out but I am still upright and riding. Mirror hanging from the wire. Never took me off my line. Didn't even touch me. Rode her on home. Didn't know it hit the saddlebag until later. Somehow, even the taillight was broken and the brake lights are on, "Brake Failure" light flashing on key, preventing me from getting her up on the EHCS.

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Glad you share ok. Bike can be fixed. I think the LT being so heavy and stable helps in these types of collisions.

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Man. Glad you're OK. Sounds like the bike damage was minimal and can be repaired. Deer collisions usually end a lot worse than that. Sorry for the bad luck though, and great riding keeping her up.

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Your ok. That's all that matters.Another reason why to love the LT. It's a tank. It (The collision) didn't even take you off line. Impressive. Just go and get another one. You know you want to. LOL.

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I am impressed with both the LT and your riding ability. It will be an expensive repair, but it is great that you are alive and well to make the repairs!
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Sorry to see the bike in such bad shape but glad you are OK Kim. Check the switch paddle on the foot brake - deer may have bent it causing the brake lights to be on
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Glad you are okay. The same thing happened to me in 2010. I hit two deer but the design of the LT saved us. The stationary fairing is great. Had I been on a regular motorcycle I would have went down. The deer demolished the front and the left sidecase. I stayed up but the bike was a total loss. They come out of nowhere. It's just that time of year. Again, glad you are okay.

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Wow. I always thought LT stood for Light Truck, but hearing you guys talk about hitting deer and staying up, I'm starting to think it stands for Light Tank.

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Thanks to all. I'm still trying to process how it happened and a little gun shy passing that point.

The weight of the Beast helped as, I think, the design of the fairing and it providing a protective zone for your foot and leg. Second time a K1200LT has protected my leg, almost 10 years since that little old lady ran the light and hit me on the '02. It works on both sides =-}

Trying to decide to fix or replace. Can't figure out why I'm getting the quick flashing Brake Failure Light on key. Taillight is full on. Both lever and peddle have good feel but the ABS pump isn't running. Going to start looking at the left caliper as the caliper mounted motolight was pointed up. Several low mile 06-09's around...

Thanks John for the suggestion foot peddle, I'll look, but it hit the left side and never touched my foot or leg.

You one upped me rattler50 - two deer!

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88 K100RT - Chocolate (it was brown, melted - fire)
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Tough choice on repair or replace. You can find advantages to both and disadvantages to both. Good luck with the decision.
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Any idea how much insurance will payout for a totaled LT? Assuming your LT is totaled.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Can't figure out why I'm getting the quick flashing Brake Failure Light on key. Taillight is full on. Both lever and peddle have good feel but the ABS pump isn't running. Going to start looking at the left caliper as the caliper mounted motolight was pointed up. Several low mile 06-09's around...

Thanks John for the suggestion foot peddle, I'll look, but it hit the left side and never touched my foot or leg.
The reason you get the fast flash is the first part of the self test must be completed with the brakes released. Since you have a brake light on all the time the ABS thinks the brakes are applied. Once you find the source of the constant brake light the rest should fall into place.

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Check the brake lights wiring. If broken, on one light the system startup test will fail.


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I had a very similar event last Sunday.
It had not been dark very long, I was following a car out of town when I saw a deer dart in front of the car. He dabbed his brakes, and didn't hit the deer. I dabbed my braked out of reflex, I didn't want to hit the car. And just when what had happened sunk in, deer number two flashed in front of me! I still had my hand on the brakes, and dabbed them, but I'm sure that was after the deer passed. You do not see them coming, and they are fast!!! He couldn't have been more than a foot in front of the front tire.
I never have liked ridding at night, I like it even less now.

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All three tail light bulbs are lit. I pulled the tail light and disconnected each and reconnected. No change.

I can hear the hand lever and foot pedal microswitches (and see the rear) clicking, so I don't think one is stuck. I tried pushing out on the hand lever w/o change. Clutch side the same.
I have brake pressure at both front and rear.
Front ABS sensor wire looks fine.
Left turn signal bulb is broken, but don't figure that is the problem.
Headlight is not on, high beam does work. Both HID.
The light did not start flashing until after I rode it home and shut if off.
Can't think of anything in the front or left side panel related to the brake lights.
I'll have to manually get her on the CS and start disassembly...

No idea on what insurance would pay, didn't have that coverage. 10 yrs ago, they offered 1/2 of new purchase price on a 5 yr old bike w/40k. They valued my motolights at $30! Doubt they would give much on a 10 yr old w/85k. No doubt they would total (again) considering what I'm seeing as the price of new replacement parts.
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I think this blonde lady has the answer to our deer problem...:



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I've heard stuff like that before and always wonder if the person is really that stupid, or if they're that great of an actor for starting dead pan through the whole thing.

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I had a very similar event last Sunday.
It had not been dark very long, I was following a car out of town when I saw a deer dart in front of the car. He dabbed his brakes, and didn't hit the deer. I dabbed my braked out of reflex, I didn't want to hit the car. And just when what had happened sunk in, deer number two flashed in front of me! I still had my hand on the brakes, and dabbed them, but I'm sure that was after the deer passed. You do not see them coming, and they are fast!!! He couldn't have been more than a foot in front of the front tire.
I never have liked ridding at night, I like it even less now.

Fortunately no photos!
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On a 9K mile trip this summer my brother hit a good sized deer on his '15 FJR1300ES at 55mph in Wyoming. I watched it from behind about 150' feet or so. He t-boned it broadside whereupon it shot over the front wheel and snapped off the windshield and knocked brother off. He rolled off the side of the road to the left into light brush and had no major injuries. The FJR was totaled and is sitting at the base of the telephone poll on the left in the photo. The FJR is pretty beefy weight-wise when loaded up, which it was. June 24th, highway 14 on the south west side of the Big Horns at 8:50am, ultra rural very lightly traveled road w/ a posted speed of 70. There were 2 other deer spooked into the roadway from the right side so it was a group of 3 that we saw and hit the lead deer. We could perhaps have improved our odds of at least being able to brake some by riding just inside the white line on the oncoming lane, so far left in the photo below--my RT is sitting on the oncoming shoulder. You can see the right side where the deer were has much poorer visibility than the far left. Since then I use any part of the road provided it's safe to do so to improve side-to-side visibility including in the oncoming lane. You do what you can but unfortunately the nicest roads w/ light traffic and lovely scenery often is where the deer like to be too. 9% of all vehicle versus deer accidents happen between 9am and 3pm, so that is your low risk time provided the road you are on gets some traffic to help chase deer away unlike the rural road we were on that fateful day. I avoid nighttime riding because we have too many deer in and out of town.


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Glad you are safe. Bike can be fixed or replaced (with another LT of course)!

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Finally found the reason for the stuck brake lights - the front ABS sensor wire connector behind the headlight was broken. Plugged it back together and all is well, well, except that I need a nose cone with headlight, left side panel and left saddlebag cover. =-}

I figure repairing it will be about half the cost of a '05 or newer as I'm finding they are going for $7,000 to $10,000.

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Glad you are ok! That could have been really bad. Angels looking out for ya man! I definitely think the weight and the fixed fairing make the LT safer than a lot of other bikes I've owned, but hitting a deer on any motorcycle and being able to walk away unscathed is something to be thankful for.

Sidenote: I noticed in your pictures you had your fog lights mounted on your forks. Who makes these mounts? I have lights I was going to add this winter, but I haven't found mounting brackets I liked yet.

Again, glad you are OK!
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Those are www.motolights.com
Be sitting down when you price them. =-}
I only have them because my dealer had a pair at half price.

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Yes, glad your good to go. As mentioned this can be a deadly event. I too have hit a deer, pre dawn, stupid. If possible the key to success is to absolutely stay upright and on the pavement. I know if you are swept off it is different, but if possible keep on the pavement. Once you go off to the shoulder the battle is lost. Darn deer I hit even broke the beer in the rear bag.

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Once you go off to the shoulder the battle is lost. Darn deer I hit even broke the beer in the rear bag.
Yes, off the shoulder would have been about a 20' drop to the right into the bushes, bet that would have hurt.

Very sad about the beer, no matter if it was domestic swill or some excellent west coast craft. =-}

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Its great you did not get hurt. I love to ride the old girl, but the fact is that it is more dangerous when your on the road without a cage around you. I also do not ride at night because that is when lots of animals are out and about and seeing road hazards in adequate time to avoid them is greatly reduced. I also do not ride in the rain for obvious reasons. Since I ride 95% of the time with my wife I just feel a responsibility to not put her life in situations that can elevate the risk of encountering danger. I look at the LT as my mid-life crisis convertible that I only take for pleasure, clean and wax way to often.

I wish you luck with your decision and am glad you will still be riding.

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A few years back I made a 2 day run from Cincinnati to Portland. On my way into Pendleton, OR (fairly mountainous) on the second day, late in the evening running down Interstate 84 on a 4 lane highway with 2 lanes separated with a grass median turned out to be a little scary as I counted about 20 dear strikes in a 20 to 30 mile section just before Pendleton. Yes I was a fairly fatigued to say the least so I started to really concentrate where is the best place on a 2 lane highway separated by a grass strip where to ride - as I was fully expecting to engage a deer. As I counted the deer strikes the majority of them were in the right lane so I came to the conclusion that yes the left lane was the best place - that was until I started seeing strikes in the left lane. I arrived in Pendleton about 11:00 PM and after settling in my motel recounted there were more strikes in the right lane - so for the time being since I like riding at night the left lane will be my choice of lanes.

This thread started out about hitting a deer on what appears to the be a 2 lane highway and other than hugging the center line I believe the rider is at the mercy of luck. the size of the deer and deers that don't jump up!!!

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