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post #1 of 15 Old Sep 9th, 2016, 11:02 am Thread Starter
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2003 LT Tires

My '03 LT will soon need new tires.

I saw were one buy hated the Metzeler 888. What is the issue???

I contacted Metzeler and got this response...
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We offer the ME880 front 120/70B17 matched with the new ME888 160/70B17 for your K1200LT. Early next year we expect to have the new ME888 in your front size. Thanks for the e-mail and see your favorite tire seller for pricing and availability.

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I have run the Bridgestone 020 and they are pretty good and presently have 020 on rear with Avon front. I little twitchy in town, but great in mountains.

What to do you like?
Why?

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2001 here, I am really enjoying the Avon 3D XM radials. Nor sure if they apply to the '03 but I feel they are a good compromise.
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I have been using the ME 880's with no problems for the way I ride but those are the only tires i have had on it since I got my LT. I just mounted up a BT-20 rear and an Avon Roadrider for the front but have not gotten them on the bike yet so I can't say if I like them better or not. I need to get a couple more miles on my 880's before I scrap them. Tires are such subjective things. Some hate a particular brand/tire and others love them.

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I have the Bridgestone 020 on rear and Avon Front. Good set up for mountains....but that is 4.5 hr away.

Seems Bridgestone has also changed to 020???

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Mountains is where I like to ride being only an hour or so away at warp 2. BT-020 is what I have. I dropped the "0" if that is what you are questioning.

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2001 here, I am really enjoying the Avon 3D XM radials. Nor sure if they apply to the '03 but I feel they are a good compromise.
They do apply to the 03. I have an 04 and just installed a set of 3dxm. I'll see how they do. Anything 05 and up. Radials are not recommended by BMW due to slightly changed steering geometry. But some owners of those 05-09 run radials anyways.
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My '03 LT will soon need new tires.

I saw were one buy hated the Metzeler 888. What is the issue???

I contacted Metzeler and got this response...
Hello

We offer the ME880 front 120/70B17 matched with the new ME888 160/70B17 for your K1200LT. Early next year we expect to have the new ME888 in your front size. Thanks for the e-mail and see your favorite tire seller for pricing and availability.

Metzeler Moto NA Consumer Affairs
877 202-4993


I have run the Bridgestone 020 and they are pretty good and presently have 020 on rear with Avon front. I little twitchy in town, but great in mountains.

What to do you like?
Why?
I can't speak to your 03 as my 07 uses bias ply tires. I have run only three combinations (F/R) to date:

ME880/ME880 - these came from the factory on my new LT. They performed fine for me dry and wet up to centerstand (two-up as I ride most often) or foot peg (solo) dragging lean angles. My only complaint is stiff ride which I think is part of the deal with the heavy LT and the short rear tire life. I run 42/48 psi and get 18-19K front, but only 7-8K on the rear. And the tires do roar when leaned over after a few thousand miles of wear. After five or so rear tires, I moved to the combination recommended by many of the senior members here. Which is...

ME880/BT020 - I just removed the worn out rear and haven't checked my spreadsheet yet for mileage, but I am pretty sure is 13K give or take. So, I am quite happy with the life of the rear. I found the handling nearly identical to the 880, but if anything found the Metz to feel more secure when dragging the undercarriage. This is different than what others here feel. Also, when worn the Bridgestone also makes a racket which I find even more annoying then the Metz. It is a higher pitched buzz compared to the lower pitch roar of the Metz. Very annoying to my ear. When my second Metz front wore out, I decided to try an 020 there also...

BT020/BT020 - Scuttlebutt is that the Metz front outlasts the Bridgestone. I haven't worn out the front yet, but it seems to be wearing pretty well, not much faster than the Metz. It is too soon to know the ultimate life. As for handling wet and dry, rain grooves, steel grate bridges, etc., and ride harshness I see no significant difference between any of these three combinations. They all work fine within the LTs' performance envelope.
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I am currently running Avons front and rear on my 02. I have about 10K on this set and they are still holding up good. The new Avons advertise that the new compound of the tire provide better mileage and right now I am a believer. I am very satisfied with these tires and love them compared to the Mets.
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I've been running Metz 880 on front & 888 on rear. Performance was very good wet or dry and I got over 19000 mi out of the last set. No complaints here, though I did add a second wheel spacer to get more clearance for peace of mind regarding possible rubbing issues with the 888. Running 42/48 psi.
Cupping on the front didn't occur until about 13000 mi. But all I had to do was finish the last 6000 mi of the big azz ride then pop new tires on. Since I wrestle my own tires on and off without a tire machine, I don't want a tire that only gives 6 or 8 thousand miles. I'd be changing them out far too often. Would rather spend my time riding.

I like them. I even got a $50 mfg rebate this time around so bought 2 sets and got 2 rebates. Unfortunately that promotion ended Aug 31st but when buying tires, it doesn't hurt to look for rebates.

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Thanks----I really wanted to know what the 888 was doing..as it looks like the 880 is going away..

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Just got back on a 6,000 mile trip out west two up on the BT-020 on rear and Avon Roadrider on front They ran great in mountains or town riding
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I ran 020 Radial front/rear. Pretty nice combo. Handling was better than 880- faster. Also, when 880 cupped, front end had a mild shaky to it.

Wife & I on Deals Gap one day, some years ago, and came up on a car wreck. We rushed to bottom to get help. When we stopped at the Deals Gap gas station, I smelled burning rubber....it was my LT 020 Radial. It had swollen so much as to rub on the swing arm and there was rubber all over rear of bike.

When we got home, I called Bridgestone and they said not to run radial on that series bikes. My rear is now non-radial.

I will likely either go back to 020 if the continue to make them or maybe the 888.... I like that 888 last longer, since I change my tires... Front is easy, but the rear is interesting..

The Avon front is fun in mountains, but in town, I'd like a little slower turn in.

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I have a 2009 K1200LT. It currently has a bridge stone 020 on the rear and a metzler on the front. I ride agresively . I have worn a bt020 front tire out in 6K. Your riding style will tell you how long the tires will last. I ride alot as I have only had this bike for two years. It has 6 k on it when I got it and at this moment it has 36k and is in a middle of a trip to St Pete Fla. I ride alot and this is my 3rd set of tires on my LT. the metzlers did not last long the bridgestones have lasted the best for except the front tire it died out at 6K. I love this bike and will not be able to find another bike to replace it.
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I ran 020 Radial front/rear. Pretty nice combo. Handling was better than 880- faster. Also, when 880 cupped, front end had a mild shaky to it.

Wife & I on Deals Gap one day, some years ago, and came up on a car wreck. We rushed to bottom to get help. When we stopped at the Deals Gap gas station, I smelled burning rubber....it was my LT 020 Radial. It had swollen so much as to rub on the swing arm and there was rubber all over rear of bike.

When we got home, I called Bridgestone and they said not to run radial on that series bikes. My rear is now non-radial.

I will likely either go back to 020 if the continue to make them or maybe the 888.... I like that 888 last longer, since I change my tires... Front is easy, but the rear is interesting..

The Avon front is fun in mountains, but in town, I'd like a little slower turn in.
I just got done running bear tooth pass and back down to Colorado BT-020 and Avon Roadrider both bais Avon on the front and I did not get any cupping so far like I would with the Metzler
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just installed a 888 on the rear, My last two rear 880 went 21,300 and 22,470 miles respectively. my front 880 now has a tad over 23k on it, should go another 4k or so. I ride almost every day, rain or shine. I check and maintain the air pressure (42/48) every morning before riding. Might be the reason why I get good mileage or might be the way i ride, or combination of the two, who knows. I have no need to try other tires since the Metzlers do the job i need them to do. So far the 888 feels more stable in the wet than the 880, or could be the difference in old tire versus new. After a while you adapt as a tire wears. time will tell on the mileage. I currently ride a 2000 K1200 LT. I've owned/ ridden just about every make/type of bike out there over the last 50 years. At this point and time the BMW K bike fits my needs in a motorcycle. Good bike, comfortable, although lacking in the HP department, pleasant bike to ride. Might try a K1600 GTL someday, if I can get over the Sticker Shock.
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