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post #1 of 15 Old Aug 31st, 2016, 10:42 am Thread Starter
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Is there really much of a difference

Just curious. Just how much difference are there in model years of the LT. I'm talking about post 2005. I see 2006 models at about 6500, and 2009 models for about 95k, with about the same mileage. Just curious.


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Re: Is there really much of a difference

Not much difference at all.
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Re: Is there really much of a difference

IIRC, it was minor tweeks - Xenon headlight, two level dash lights, could only get black...
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Re: Is there really much of a difference

"2009 models for about 95k, "

I guess this makes mine FOR SALE!!!!!!

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Re: Is there really much of a difference

Don't the 2006+ LTs have an auxilary port that allows phones and mp3 players to play through the speakers? I thought I read that somewhere.

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Re: Is there really much of a difference

I think if you have the comm system. Mine has it as I use an Ipod

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oops, that was supposed to say 9500.00 lol


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Re: Is there really much of a difference

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Don't the 2006+ LTs have an auxilary port that allows phones and mp3 players to play through the speakers? I thought I read that somewhere.
Nope. You can add one though IF you do not have the intercomm system.

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Re: Is there really much of a difference

If you can get one newer without the servo brakes that ended in 2006 you will be in a safer position.

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I thought they all had the servo brakes


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2002 through 2006 had servo systems.

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2002 through 2006 had servo systems.
I believe they had servos until the end of production in 2009. I can say with certainty that my 2007 has servo activated brakes.

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Thanks, learn something every day.

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I believe they had servos until the end of production in 2009. I can say with certainty that my 2007 has servo activated brakes.
You are correct:
The K1200LT is probably the only BMW where they choose NOT to replace the IABS with next ABS generation (non servos) for 2007 and later. All other large engine models (1200 and up) got the new simpler (non servos) by TEVE beginning late 2006.

Of course, BMW knew very well they were planning to end production of K1200LT in 2008 so why bother with engineering changes for a limited production model - by that time the K1200LT was not selling in very large number.

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You are correct:
The K1200LT is probably the only BMW where they choose NOT to replace the IABS with next ABS generation (non servos) for 2007 and later. All other large engine models (1200 and up) got the new simpler (non servos) by TEVE beginning late 2006.

Of course, BMW knew very well they were planning to end production of K1200LT in 2008 so why bother with engineering changes for a limited production model - by that time the K1200LT was not selling in very large number.
John you actually thoroughly detailed the difference in a sept. 5, 2015 post, see below:

I see you already got some replies - I will add this as a summary assuming you are based in USA (as Canada and Europe sometimes get these model changes 1 year earlier):
1) 1999-2001: the original model with 100 horsepower and ABS2 brake system (this ABS is simpler and can be repaired for acceptable cost)

2) late 2001 to 2004: same engine and design as earlier but with new ABS system having servos booster built into the ABS modulator. This ABS system is more complex to bleed, more fragile and cannot be fully overhauled in North-America - ModuleMaster in Idaho is working on this project. In addition, you should be aware that when this ABS system fails, you loose 80% of braking power (my own personal estimate).

3) Last generation 2005-2009: new fancy instrument dash, engine has 15 more HP (compression, larger intake...), electro-hydraulic center-stand, steering geometry changed (a bit easier slow speed handling). Same ABS system as late 2001-2004 explained earlier.

In addition to above summary, each generation had various optional equipment from factory that you want to check for before buying:
- immobilizer/alarm: an anti-theft system that is more trouble that it is worth in my opinion. BMW are not stolen like Harleys are...
- radio with or without CD changer: this has been a nice addition but many owners had failure and had to have it repaired or replaced.
- heated seat and/or pillion backrest
- GPS navigator
- Xenon headlight
- Electronic cruise-control (most have it)
- Heated grips (most have it)
- central locking system for all 3 luggages and front compartment (believe was part of the Alarm/Immobilizer package)

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