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Red face A problem on the way to work...

Setting: 50° F outside, wet streets (due to rain that came through this morning) and an intersection that is brick-lined (for crosswalks).

I had come through that intersection countless times before and several times when it was wet. Everytime I go through there (including this morning) I think to myself that the bricks could be slick. Today, apparently, they were. Although, it seemed like I was beyond them when it happened, I think that they are the start of it all (though, I could be wrong).

Coming around the corner, I'm looking down the road that I'm intending to follow when I see the right side of the bike. Then, I'm feeling the asphalt sliding along my back and I see the bike leave me. I had a low-side fall (in case you couldn't guess). Thanks to my gear, I am uninjured (hell, even my gear isn't damaged - I'm guessing that it's because the pavement was wet). The bike, on the otherhand, has a few scrapes. I'll try to get pictures up tonight or tomorrow.

A couple people stopped (thankfully) to make sure that I was alright. I said that I was and I just needed help righting the Fat PigŠ. They helped and she was up in no time. I got her started again, put her in gear and she died. WTF? What's wrong with it?? Oh yeah, I put the kickstand down! DOH! I got her going, pulled into a nearby parking lot and got off for a couple of minutes to clear my pants - er, mind!

I'm still a bit shaky right now, but I'm fine. I'm sure that as soon as the adrenaline wears off, I'll feel a bit on the sore side. I'm thinking that I should have taken the whole thing as a sign to call in sick to work, but I'm a glutton for punnishment, it seems...

Off to get my morning caffeine!

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Sorry to hear about your mishap, I'm glad your alright and its nice that the bike didn't sustain much damage either.

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Hey, Alan - what's that up-in-the-air saying? Somethang about any landing you walk away from wuz a good one?! Glad you had a good one!! I can think of several wayz this one coulda turned nasty, butt since you're on a caffeine run, I'll just be thankful that it didn't.

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The damage to the bike that I have noticed is:
The left wing, the shifter peg, the left lower fairing, the left saddlebag bumper strip and the heatshield all have scraping. The fairing damage is the most disheartening, I think.

I, too, am very glad that it didn't get worse. I'll just look at it as a learning experience and try not to repeat it!

BTW, do low-sides count towards Droppers Annonymous?

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Glad to hear your OK. I bet we have ALL been in the same situation where we go around a corner in the rain and one time out of a hundred, the tire slips for no reason.

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BTW, do low-sides count towards Droppers Annonymous?
No, we'll left you off on this one. Glad to know your okay. Bits of plastic are easily repaired, body parts aren't.

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Glad your OK and thanks for the reminder to be careful out there.

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No, we'll left you off on this one. Glad to know your okay. Bits of plastic are easily repaired, body parts aren't.

Have a blessed rest of the day.
Damn! I was hoping that I qualified for the pin..

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Hey, Alan - what's that up-in-the-air saying? Somethang about any landing you walk away from wuz a good one?! ----------.
"A good landing is one that you walk away from, a GREAT one is after which you can actually use the plane again!"

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"A good landing is one that you walk away from, a GREAT one is after which you can actually use the plane again!"
Heheh.. I like that one!

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LbH - glad you came out okay.

IMO: brick crosswalks...
waste of tax dollars for materials
waste of time to rip up roads and install X-walks
increased danger for cycles and bikes

but nevermind poor functionality - they sure look nice

same with cobblestone roadways (ala 3rd St downtown Milwaukee and I'm sure numerous places where you all have been). I feel about as safe on brick/cobblestone as I do crossing grated drawbridges

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Damn! I was hoping that I qualified for the pin..
If you had dropped it trying to pick it up and been properly embarassed, then you would have qualified. Glad to see you've got a sense of humor. Just be glad you didn't drop someone else's for your first drop. DAMHIK

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"A good landing is one that you walk away from, a GREAT one is after which you can actually use the plane again!"
Thinking back to my student pilot days. Instructor commands me to bring some passengers along so I can get used to flying a loaded Cessna 172. Of course that day turned into a scorcher, about 95F at 4500 feet altitute, the plane was loaded with fuel, and the 4 of us probably weighted in at 700 pounds. Took most of the 3000 meter runway to get it off the ground, stall warning keeps going off as soon as I try and gain some altitude. OK, now fly to XXX airport and do a touch and go. One problem, XXX only has a 1200 meter runway, instructor won't budge. Solution, make a full power, full flap descent, bounce the wheels off the numbers and apply full throttle right away. I'm surprised they ever flew with me again!

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Glad your ok.. You can always fix the bike...

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Setting: 50° F outside, wet streets (due to rain that came through this morning) and an intersection that is brick-lined (for crosswalks).
Don't let the drop get you down. Our tire contact patch is about the size of a credit card. A bit of oil or cooling fluid may have been your root cause. Good to hear your bailout was successful. A little road rash on the tupperware is not a big deal. My new GT has a few dings now on the side bag and the front skin due to my attempt to go over a curb that was too tall.

Don't let it ruin your week.

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"If you don't limp you aint $hoot.." or so the saying goes.. So, make it official.. limp a little. =) Plus what Dick said.. "any "landing" YOU can walk away from is successful..."

So, get back "in the saddle"...

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Currently, I have no qualms about getting back into the saddle. I might take a day or two just to make sure that my back is good (it's a little sore right now).

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On my way home from work...

Ironically, I had an "incident" after following this post all day. Light drizzle, all gear on, and I was thinking about the bricks during my ride home. Turned around a corner and NEARLY slipped on right turn over a stop line. The right leg came out to save the fall (bad reaction I know). Those get damn slippery.

When I got to the garage, I thought I had dodged a bullet. Leaned the bike over to the left and whoop, whoop, WHOOOOOOP, laid it down as softly as I could. I thought the kickstand was down. I felt REALLY stupid standing there in the parking garage staring at my beached baby whale. I tried doing the "squat" lift method (butt against seat) to no avail. Eventually some guy walked past and I asked if he had a second to help me out. He did. Thank goodness those plastic engine guard covers function so well. I feel so stupid when I see the bike laying on the ground especially when it's my fault.

I thought I could share with some people who can relate and might figure on double-checking the kickstand before leaning it past the point-of-no-return.

BTW - Pete, what about those "Stop Laughing and Help Me Pick Up My LT" stickers? I could've used it today...

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L-B-H,

I played ball at Iowa and went back two summers ago for a reunion. I rode my bike up there and I remember that all the streets in town seemed to be slicker than any place I have ever ridden before. The blacktop was extremly smooth and almost seemed greasy. I had trouble stopping a couple of times coming down hills, cause the rear wheel kept trying to come around on me. I think adding bricks to the cross walks would only make matters worse, wet or not.

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Alan,

Like everyone else I am glad you are ok.

As you can see, many many of us have had similar experiences, so you aren't alone.

In additiion to what fas mentioned, watch out for leaves this time of year, diesel, and the nasty slime that seeps out of the back of garbage trucks!

Keep an eye on your back...

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Slick Bricks

I'M glad you came out of this one ok. It happens as they say.

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Setting: 50° F outside, wet streets (due to rain that came through this morning) and an intersection that is brick-lined (for crosswalks).

I had come through that intersection countless times before and several times when it was wet. Everytime I go through there (including this morning) I think to myself that the bricks could be slick. Today, apparently, they were. Although, it seemed like I was beyond them when it happened, I think that they are the start of it all (though, I could be wrong).

Coming around the corner, I'm looking down the road that I'm intending to follow when I see the right side of the bike. Then, I'm feeling the asphalt sliding along my back and I see the bike leave me. I had a low-side fall (in case you couldn't guess). Thanks to my gear, I am uninjured (hell, even my gear isn't damaged - I'm guessing that it's because the pavement was wet). The bike, on the otherhand, has a few scrapes. I'll try to get pictures up tonight or tomorrow.

A couple people stopped (thankfully) to make sure that I was alright. I said that I was and I just needed help righting the Fat PigŠ. They helped and she was up in no time. I got her started again, put her in gear and she died. WTF? What's wrong with it?? Oh yeah, I put the kickstand down! DOH! I got her going, pulled into a nearby parking lot and got off for a couple of minutes to clear my pants - er, mind!

I'm still a bit shaky right now, but I'm fine. I'm sure that as soon as the adrenaline wears off, I'll feel a bit on the sore side. I'm thinking that I should have taken the whole thing as a sign to call in sick to work, but I'm a glutton for punnishment, it seems...

Off to get my morning caffeine!
Glad you are alright.

I had a similar experience years ago on my Honda 90. I went down around a corner, with just a bit of sand. The front tire just slid right out and the bike went down. Sometimes I think that experience when I was 14 has stayed with me all these years and in some ways I have never forgot that. I think for me it was a good thing and keeps me thinking about safety.

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Damn! I was hoping that I qualified for the pin..
Don't worry: you'll have plenty of time to join the club. When you least expect it, it'll happen. It might look something like this. (not quite sure when this pic came from... )

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Drops and slides are preferred to crashes. Looks like your awareness and skills are helping you avoid the big one!! A drop a day keeps the big ones away . . . or something like that!!

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I think adding bricks to the cross walks would only make matters worse, wet or not.
Yeah, the bricks for the crosswalks idea was one of the stupidest things that the City of Coralville has ever done. That, and spend a million dollars on big rocks at the intersections that don't do anything but make it into a blind intersection...

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Wink Maybe you have improved your imunity to bricks

Everytime I go through there (including this morning) I think to myself that the bricks could be slick. Today, apparently, they were.
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I have similar thoughts about putting my LT on it's center stand, only it goes something like this:
"This parking space doesn't seem flat enough, maybe I should find a better one." I usually followed my instinct and moved the bike instead of trying to put the LT on its' center stand in a questionable location. ... then one day, after having that thought, I decided "I can do this." As she went up, she went over, away from me (at the BMW dealership). Boy was I embarrassed and shaken!!!

It happen's to all of us, or at least most of us. Just as I improved my imunity to inclined parking spaces, you probably have an improved imunity to wet bricks.

I'm glad you and your LT are o.k.

If it doesn't kill us, it makes us stronger (that's what I'm telling myself as I'm home for the eighth workday because of the Shingles and a severe cold).

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...Solution, make a full power, full flap descent, bounce the wheels off the numbers and apply full throttle right away. I'm surprised they ever flew with me again!
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The City of Reno, NV put the brick and cobble stone crosswalks in during their "Down Town Redevelopment" several years ago. After numerous complaints that they were slicker when wet numerous tax dollars were sent doing studies to show that they were not slicker when wet. Well guess what they are again redeveloping downtown and they are now removing the brick cross walks.

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The City of Reno, NV put the brick and cobble stone crosswalks in during their "Down Town Redevelopment" several years ago. After numerous complaints that they were slicker when wet numerous tax dollars were sent doing studies to show that they were not slicker when wet. Well guess what they are again redeveloping downtown and they are now removing the brick cross walks.

"Not Slippery when Wet"
Yeah, while they look nice they are by no means cheaper than painting crosswalk lines in. They cost a lot to install, they cost a lot to fix and they cause, of course, traction problems.

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