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post #1 of 12 Old Oct 7th, 2006, 10:46 am Thread Starter
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I think I know the answer already but...

... I hope I'm wrong. Is it normal for the LT to spit oil out of the tailpipe. I was warming up the bike getting ready to take it for a spin did a walk around as it was warming up... you know... check the tires and make sure nothing looks like its going to fall off... that kind of thing. I noticed the LT spitting some oil out the tailpipe... more to the point I noticed the oil on the floor of the garage. I looked over to where I had parked her the day before and sure enough same pattern of oil spits right where the tailpipe would have been. I checked the oil and it does not appear to be low. Sooooo... I figure either it always does this and I just haven't noticed before (unlikely) or I'm about to make another warranty claim (the 2nd in the 3+ months of ownership) because I have oil seeping into the combustion chamber (more likely). Any thoughts... am I as screwed as I think I am.

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This is perfectly normal if you parked it on the side stand. If you think about it, that puts the cylinder head downhill from the oil supply to some extent. It doesn't hurt anything, other than perhaps the beauty of your garage floor.

Park it on the centerstand, and this virtually stops. Keep it upright for a few seconds with the engine off, like while taking off your helmet, then park it on the sidestand: same deal...no spots.

Most bikes with horizontal cylinders do this, so quit worrying and JUST RIDE IT!

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This is perfectly normal if you parked it on the side stand. If you think about it, that puts the cylinder head downhill from the oil supply to some extent. It doesn't hurt anything, other than perhaps the beauty of your garage floor.

Park it on the centerstand, and this virtually stops. Keep it upright for a few seconds with the engine off, like while taking off your helmet, then park it on the sidestand: same deal...no spots.

Most bikes with horizontal cylinders do this, so quit worrying and JUST RIDE IT!
When its in the garage it is always on the centerstand, does that change your opinion of the problem? I don't want to be a nervous nelly but I also don't want a minor problem to become major.

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It is still probably "normal", whatever that is... Mine does it too at times. A lot of what comes out of the tail pipe is probably water vapor with a little oil mixed in. Notice that you are from WI, and the cooler weather may make it more noticeable as you are going to create more water vapor on start up than you would in warmer weather.

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It is still probably "normal", whatever that is... Mine does it too at times. A lot of what comes out of the tail pipe is probably water vapor with a little oil mixed in. Notice that you are from WI, and the cooler weather may make it more noticeable as you are going to create more water vapor on start up than you would in warmer weather.
This is probably correct,but doesn't BMW reccomend not warming up the bike before riding?Just take it easy till engine temp. is up to normal.
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I assume it is black spots on the garage floor you are talking about? That is not oil, but mostly carbon that is mixed with condensation of water vapor that settles in the carbon deposits in muffler overnight, then is spat out when the engine is started.

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This is probably correct,but doesn't BMW reccomend not warming up the bike before riding?Just take it easy till engine temp. is up to normal.
Correct. Do not warm the bike up, just ride off. Has something to do with oil circulation and pressure, which is prolly important enough to follow BMW's rec on this.



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You sure that 'spit' pattern is oil??

My '02 spits a pattern of black dots, but it's not oil. It's soot. Durring a cold start, she runs pretty rich - that coulped with condensed moisture results in a black, sooty spray - well, drops. Also coats the back end of the muffler.

In any case - that's nothing unusual either.

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i ain't never had discernable oil come out of my exhaust pipe. my question is how much oil, if it is oil. if it is definitely oil, i would take it to the dealer. in the mean time, i would put something under the exhaust to absorb or collect a sample and isolate it with something between the floor and the collector. i would take this with me to the dealer and take pictures of it as well. omurphy
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On closer inspection (I put some paper under the tailpipe and fired it up) it does appear to be oily soot, so I'm not going to worry about it just yet. Thank you all for your help this is the second time that you've been able to diagnose a problem (slave cylinder was the first one) without laying eyes on the bike. Come to Wisconsin and the first ones on me.

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.... Come to Wisconsin and the first ones on me.
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You better be careful with statements like that. You may get more takers than you could imagine. Remember a lot of these guys ride 400 miles for lunch.

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I figure that as long as they don't all come together I'm safe...

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