Oxygen Sensor - BMW Luxury Touring Community
 3Likes
  • 2 Post By jenkinskg
  • 1 Post By Voyager
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 18 Old Mar 4th, 2016, 9:44 pm Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kearney, NE, USA
Posts: 41
Oxygen Sensor

Any tips for getting the O2 sensor to break loose. So far it has not responded to a wrench and is still in excellent shape (no rounded corners). I did give it a couple of doses of penetrating oil and heated the bung with a propane torch and its still stuck. Just didn't know if I should get the cheater pipe and get more serious. I was concerned that I would bend something that was not intended to be adjusted.

2000 K1200 LT
High_Plains_Drifter is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 Old Mar 5th, 2016, 8:33 am
Senior Member
 
norton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Doylestown, Pa, usa
Posts: 787
Re: Oxygen Sensor

I'm sure someone will come to your aid shortly, the sites motor heads are getting older and it takes them a little longer to respond these days.

Scott
2007 LT
norton is offline  
post #3 of 18 Old Mar 5th, 2016, 9:21 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 169
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Mine was difficult to break loose as well. You're on the right track with the heat, but I would recommend using foil as a heat shield for wires in the proximity. You may want to use a penetrating oil for several days if you are uncomfortable with exerting extra force. However you're not likely to damage the exhaust before you damage the o2 sensor which could be removed with a pipe wrench if necessary. also some have found it extremely helpful to use a string prior to removal of the wiring as a fish to install the new plug.
superstan26 is offline  
 
post #4 of 18 Old Mar 5th, 2016, 9:26 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 169
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Btw kanokroil, or the aerosol version aerokroil works quite well, better than pb blaster, or wd-40 in my opinion.
superstan26 is offline  
post #5 of 18 Old Mar 5th, 2016, 11:53 am
Senior Member
 
beech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Mount Vernon, WA, USA
Posts: 2,518
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Buy a cheap deep well impact socket on EBay and take a grinder and cut a slot up one side about an inch. Use the slot for the wires and put the socket on, now you can use a long handled breaker bar. Use all those good penetrating fluids too. Maybe try the loctite spray one that chills as it lubes. Slow pressure on the wrench is not as good as sudden.

Beech
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I change your tires $50, you buy them on the web.
K13S, S1000R (gone through a few GS's & RT's)
beech is offline  
post #6 of 18 Old Mar 5th, 2016, 3:49 pm Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kearney, NE, USA
Posts: 41
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Thanks for the help. Overnight and the penetrating oil must have done it job. Short cheater didn't hurt either.
Next issue I bought a Bosch replacement O2 sensor with a connector kit. The wire colors are black, gray and two whites just like the original sensor. You have to reuse the connector the bike side. The question is are the whites common to each other?

2000 K1200 LT
High_Plains_Drifter is offline  
post #7 of 18 Old Mar 5th, 2016, 4:05 pm
Senior Member
 
sailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montreal ,QC , Canada
Posts: 1,166
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Quote:
Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
Thanks for the help. Overnight and the penetrating oil must have done it job. Short cheater didn't hurt either.
Next issue I bought a Bosch replacement O2 sensor with a connector kit. The wire colors are black, gray and two whites just like the original sensor. You have to reuse the connector the bike side. The question is are the whites common to each other?
I have installed the same BOSH universal O2-sensor 2 years ago. Works well, but you have to be patient and meticulous with the small connectors.

Both white wires are for heating element (inside sensor) and can be matched with either/any of the 2 white wires on new sensor. This type of heating element has no polarity.

-------------------------------------------------
John (Montreal, CANADA)
K1200RS (2002 IceBlue/Red - 96,000 miles)
-------------------------------------------------
Think twice before you hit [SUBMIT REPLY] - famous quote by another member:
"The value of this board is not founded on dismissing the ideas of others, but by posting to share our experiences and what we've learned from them."
sailor is offline  
post #8 of 18 Old Mar 5th, 2016, 4:34 pm Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kearney, NE, USA
Posts: 41
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Good news. Looks like I'm good to go. Your right about being time consuming. It takes a while to make up the connections. Thanks for the response.

2000 K1200 LT
High_Plains_Drifter is offline  
post #9 of 18 Old Mar 6th, 2016, 9:47 am
Senior Member
 
MarinPhil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Rafael, Ca., USA
Posts: 293
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Yes, black to black, grey to grey and whites don't matter.

Phil in Marin
2013 K1300S-30 Anniv ED. sold
2006 K1200GT-Blue of course-sold
2005 Ducati 999-the I-talian princess-sold
2004 K1200GT Gen-1, Orient Blue
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
gone
2016 Triumph Thruxton R
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2000 R1100RT.
MarinPhil is offline  
post #10 of 18 Old Jul 1st, 2016, 12:52 pm
Senior Member
 
jenkinskg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 215
Garage
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Had exhaust out so decided to replace o2 sensor, WOW!

heated then wrench then heated lots of pb blaster ect still ng.

I ended up breaking hex part with wires off, twisted off.
Still had not budged, so then tried easy out, just wiggled.

So I drilled out a bit larger hole, the jug saw with metal blade in 2 spots, now going to use o2 sensor thread chaser to clean rust off threads. Funny no other bolts on bike had this much corrosion.

Looks like no thread damage, just annoying, bought new one at autozone $80, cheaper online, but did not want to wait.

used bosch part# to find it there

much cheaper than this site

Bosch - K1200 Oxygen Sensor

2000 K1200LT & 86 K75 for fun again

Prev rides
1992 BMW K75
1994 Suzuki Intruder 1400
1985 Goldwing
1977 Yamaha RD400
1982 Honda MB5
1979 Yamaha XS 650

if it ain't fun, don't own it
jenkinskg is offline  
post #11 of 18 Old Jul 1st, 2016, 1:20 pm
Senior Member
 
bmwcoolk1200's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,969
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Quote:
Originally Posted by jenkinskg View Post
Had exhaust out so decided to replace o2 sensor, WOW!

heated then wrench then heated lots of pb blaster ect still ng.

I ended up breaking hex part with wires off, twisted off.
Still had not budged, so then tried easy out, just wiggled.

So I drilled out a bit larger hole, the jug saw with metal blade in 2 spots, now going to use o2 sensor thread chaser to clean rust off threads. Funny no other bolts on bike had this much corrosion.

Looks like no thread damage, just annoying, bought new one at autozone $80, cheaper online, but did not want to wait.

used bosch part# to find it there

much cheaper than this site

Bosch - K1200 Oxygen Sensor
Do you have the BOSCH part number handy for the rest of us and did it have the correct plug on the end? I know many have used the universal and cur/spliced the wires.

And for the masses, add some more anti seize than comes on it so you don't have to go through that again if it fails.

Gordon
Sugar Hill, GA
2001 K1200LTI Champagne (current ride) Lazy Susan
1998 R1100RT Never should have sold it
1974 Yamaha TX 750 Twin. Omni Phase Balanced


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bmwcoolk1200 is offline  
post #12 of 18 Old Jul 1st, 2016, 7:56 pm
Senior Member
 
jenkinskg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 215
Garage
Re: Oxygen Sensor

bosch part#11 78 1 742 051


looked up bosch part number(see link above), gave it to autozone, they looked it up. Got new bosch sensor with correct plug for $80, they last at least 60K.

Autozone also registers you with 1 year warranty

Had to remove old stuck one, it was practically welded in.
Hear PB etc NG, ended up breaking off nut part, the drilled out, easy out failed.

after drilling I used Jig saw metal blade to cut out threads.
The used chisle to break the rest of it, no ruined threads.
The $9 at napa bought o2 sensor thread chaser, a little wd40 and that tool made threads like new.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	autozone-boschpart.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	213.9 KB
ID:	111793  
Patric and bmwcoolk1200 like this.

2000 K1200LT & 86 K75 for fun again

Prev rides
1992 BMW K75
1994 Suzuki Intruder 1400
1985 Goldwing
1977 Yamaha RD400
1982 Honda MB5
1979 Yamaha XS 650

if it ain't fun, don't own it
jenkinskg is offline  
post #13 of 18 Old Jul 5th, 2016, 12:22 pm
Senior Member
 
jenkinskg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 215
Garage
Re: Oxygen Sensor

bosch plays games with parts, numbers and prices

o2 sensor same one ranges from over $300 to $50
Bosch fuel pump for volvo same pump price range $150 to over $550

they take all the money they can, and do not believe parts are different from dealer, just more middle men involved.

2000 K1200LT & 86 K75 for fun again

Prev rides
1992 BMW K75
1994 Suzuki Intruder 1400
1985 Goldwing
1977 Yamaha RD400
1982 Honda MB5
1979 Yamaha XS 650

if it ain't fun, don't own it
jenkinskg is offline  
post #14 of 18 Old Jul 5th, 2016, 1:27 pm
Lifetime Supporter
 
Voyager's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lawrenceville, PA, USA
Posts: 7,109
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Quote:
Originally Posted by bmwcoolk1200 View Post
Do you have the BOSCH part number handy for the rest of us and did it have the correct plug on the end? I know many have used the universal and cur/spliced the wires.

And for the masses, add some more anti seize than comes on it so you don't have to go through that again if it fails.
See picture. Plug compatible.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpeg
Views:	309
Size:	1.59 MB
ID:	112025  
bmwcoolk1200 likes this.

2017 KLR650 "Mule"
2007 K1200LT "Starship Enterprise", VOICE II, Navigator V, Motorrad Communicator
1987 Kawasaki Voyager XII
1976 Kawasaki KH400
1973 Kawasaki 100 G5
1970 Rockford Chibi (the orange one)

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Voyager is offline  
post #15 of 18 Old Jul 6th, 2016, 9:17 am
Lifetime Supporter
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA
Posts: 1,305
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Amazon has the Bosch 13475 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment for $71. Complete with plug so no need to cut and solder. Also available is an offset puller for O2 sensors $11.

Motor On ,/'


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
jkersh1 is offline  
post #16 of 18 Old Jul 8th, 2016, 7:39 am
Senior Member
 
jenkinskg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 215
Garage
Re: Oxygen Sensor

yes offset puller should work, but if its frozen like mine, torch then drill then saw, NOT FUN.

bikes see moisture, then cat creates it so there is rust on inside and out, contant heat then cool makes it welded in, my friends car was the same.

Get the o2 sensor thread chaser also, or buy both tools local and bring back if you dont need them

2000 K1200LT & 86 K75 for fun again

Prev rides
1992 BMW K75
1994 Suzuki Intruder 1400
1985 Goldwing
1977 Yamaha RD400
1982 Honda MB5
1979 Yamaha XS 650

if it ain't fun, don't own it
jenkinskg is offline  
post #17 of 18 Old Jul 8th, 2016, 7:50 am
Lifetime Supporter
 
Voyager's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lawrenceville, PA, USA
Posts: 7,109
Re: Oxygen Sensor

Quote:
Originally Posted by jenkinskg View Post
yes offset puller should work, but if its frozen like mine, torch then drill then saw, NOT FUN.

bikes see moisture, then cat creates it so there is rust on inside and out, contant heat then cool makes it welded in, my friends car was the same.

Get the o2 sensor thread chaser also, or buy both tools local and bring back if you dont need them
I used an O2 sensor socket when removing mine. I had also let it soak for 2-3 days in WD-40 with a fresh hit of WD-40 each day. Mine came loose amazing easily, but then I have only 54,000 miles on mine. A higher mileage bike would likely be progressively more difficult as, as you say, the [email protected] sensor lives in a harsh environment to say the least.

I didn't need to use heat as mine came loose with just a 1/2" breaker bar, no need even for a cheater pipe. Had it not, heat was my next step and then the 2' cheater pipe after that. Fortunately, no need in my case.

2017 KLR650 "Mule"
2007 K1200LT "Starship Enterprise", VOICE II, Navigator V, Motorrad Communicator
1987 Kawasaki Voyager XII
1976 Kawasaki KH400
1973 Kawasaki 100 G5
1970 Rockford Chibi (the orange one)

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Voyager is offline  
post #18 of 18 Old Jul 8th, 2016, 9:52 am
Senior Member
 
jenkinskg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 215
Garage
Re: Oxygen Sensor

the rounded top o2 is what my original and new one from autozone looked like

2000 K1200LT & 86 K75 for fun again

Prev rides
1992 BMW K75
1994 Suzuki Intruder 1400
1985 Goldwing
1977 Yamaha RD400
1982 Honda MB5
1979 Yamaha XS 650

if it ain't fun, don't own it
jenkinskg is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW Luxury Touring Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
upgrade for oxygen sensor mexicoboy K1200LT 13 Oct 28th, 2014 7:11 pm
Install Oxygen Sensor ? Jimbo3 K1200LT 4 May 13th, 2013 9:20 am
oxygen sensor RockyRaccon K1200LT 14 May 13th, 2013 1:29 am
Oxygen sensor Sac K1200LT 9 Jul 11th, 2009 1:31 am
Question on Oxygen Sensor MNTodd K1200LT 1 Sep 21st, 2008 3:05 pm

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome