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Lightbulb Radio Shuts Off after 2 hours while riding possible answer

I read all the post on this subject and could not find a solution. But what I did discover is this! If SVOL is set to off radio will shut off after 2 hours of riding on my 2002 model. If SVOL is set to any 1-5 value radio will not shut off after 2 hours of riding. So it seems that without SVOL the radio does not know that the bike is actually running and does what it is programed to do to save the battery and shuts off after 2 hours. Not sure if this happens on all model years or it is unique to my radio. If anyone else has the 2 hour issue and would like to test I'd be interested to know the results.

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The radio on my '04 R12CLC(RIP) and now my '05 K12LT both cut off at two hrs. My cousin's '06 K12LT does it too. Doing what it was programmed to do, not run the battery down if not running! Guess the German engineers couldn't include a program that could determine if the engine was running or not.

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My 2002 does the very same thing.
After 2 hours, doesn't matter ridding or not, it will shuts off.
To be honest, I don't mind. Actually, I like it. Tells me that I have to stop and strech my legs

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My 05' radio also shuts off at the 2hr. mark. For me its just a nice little timer, hit the radio on button and your good for another 2 hr, that is with the aux. tank onboard. -Chuck-

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The radio is not supposed to shut of if the bike is running. There is a wheel speed sensor (same as used for SVOL) fed into the radio compartment. Sometimes this is a flaky connection, so the radio doesn't know the wheels are turning.

If it was my bike, it would drive me nuts. But since my radio has been in a box in the garage since December '02 (in favor of an iPod and GPS controller), I just don't worry about it.

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The radio is not supposed to shut of if the bike is running. There is a wheel speed sensor (same as used for SVOL) fed into the radio compartment. Sometimes this is a flaky connection, so the radio doesn't know the wheels are turning.

If it was my bike, it would drive me nuts. But since my radio has been in a box in the garage since December '02 (in favor of an iPod and GPS controller), I just don't worry about it.

hahahaha, man I wish mine had done that instead of come at at wide open volume at 80- mph with my dag blasted headsets on!

WOW it about blew me off the bike!

Then we could not get it turned off, even with all the fuses out! it was kind of funny in a way if it hadn;t about blown my ear drums out , here we were sitting at a truck stop stereo full blast me 100 ft from the bike on the phone with the dealer, hollering (cause my bike stereo was full blast) telling them yes the fuse it out, in fact I took ALL the fuses out they were all sitting on my rear seat!!

come to find out there was one more fuse, on the DANG radio!! that you have to take half the bike apart to get to!

or just pull your left side plastic off and disconnect all the radio harness. the radio head had shorted and it decided to turn on full blast would not shut off even with the key in lock position and all the fuses out! I am not kidding!

radio got replaced in texas that time all was fine after that

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If I set the SVOL to off then it shuts off, if I set it to anything else it doesn't. I don't think the sensor is messed up, or my ABS would be messed up to. I don't mind too much I just use it as a timer to tell me to get off and stretch my legs.

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It's not that the sensor is bad, more that the connection at the radio is bad. But if you're happy with how it works then I wouldn't bother tracing it down.

If you're not, the get a wiring diagram and a T25 bit and have at it.

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I read all the post on this subject and could not find a solution. But what I did discover is this! If SVOL is set to off radio will shut off after 2 hours of riding on my 2002 model. If SVOL is set to any 1-5 value radio will not shut off after 2 hours of riding. So it seems that without SVOL the radio does not know that the bike is actually running and does what it is programed to do to save the battery and shuts off after 2 hours. Not sure if this happens on all model years or it is unique to my radio. If anyone else has the 2 hour issue and would like to test I'd be interested to know the results.

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My understanding from BMW is that the radio is designed to shut off after 2 hours. It's not a settings thing. They did this so in case you left it on after the bike was off it would shut down and not completely drain your battery (just enough to where you can't start the bike, of course ). I have my SVOL set to 4 and it shut off every 2 hours of riding on my cross country trip I just completed. THis is a VERY lame implementation of BMW trying to help us. They should have added the logic "if the motor is running don't start the radio kill timer".

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feeling like a dummy here, whats svol? I am guessing something to do with volume?
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SVOL is BMW's Speed-related VOLume control. As the bike goes faster and the wind noise increases, the radio volume will increase. Go slower and the volume decreases. You can set it in different steps from slight increase to large increase, or turn it off completely (no change).

Once again, the radio is not supposed to turn off while riding. Any LT that does that has a bad connection where the speedo signal feeds into the radio controller. It is supposed to shut off after 2 hours while parked to save the battery, but not while moving.

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Once again, the radio is not supposed to turn off while riding. Any LT that does that has a bad connection where the speedo signal feeds into the radio controller. It is supposed to shut off after 2 hours while parked to save the battery, but not while moving.
You sure 'bout that? I coulda swore it was:

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My '05 has done it since day one. I never knew why, I just knew it wasn't a big enought problem for me to take it to the dealer and lose it for a week waiting for a fix. At least I know I'm not the only one now!

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Once again, the radio is not supposed to turn off while riding. Any LT that does that has a bad connection where the speedo signal feeds into the radio controller. It is supposed to shut off after 2 hours while parked to save the battery, but not while moving.
I talked to my dealer about this a while back and had them check into it, and BMW corporate confirmed the 2 hour shut-off is a feature they designed into the radio. It happens anytime the radio is on for 2 hours, whether moving or standing still (hence my comment about the timer logic). It would be so simple to make it work right, too. They already detect speed to adjust the speed sensitive volume, so they should just monitor that and only start the countdown when the bike isn't moving.

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B.S. to BMW. My '99 radio would stay on as long as I liked, unless the bike was parked and then the 2 hour limit kicked in. I'm not sure about my '02 radio, as it was removed the first week I had the bike and replaced with an iPod. That will play as long as my bike's battery allows, and never repeat a song.

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My radio only shuts off after 2 hours when the bike is not running. It will stay on indefinable when running.

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My radio only shuts off after 2 hours when the bike is not running. It will stay on indefinable when running.
I am not sure about my radio. I know that it will play as long as the bike is running and I have made MANY rides over two hours. I am going to turn it on in the garage and check it in two hours to see if my 02 will shut off.

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Meese,
I was forewarned by the BMW service mgr. to be aware of the radio turning off at two hrs, rolling or not. He was right on both bikes.
I use it as a timer also with the only problem being my thinking I have a cell call. I usually say "hellow" several times before I remember the two hrs.

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BMW may be aware of it, and they may even have changed it on newer bikes, but if my new BMW did that, I'd be taking it back to the dealer real quick. I tell ya, it just ain't right.

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B.S. to BMW. My '99 radio would stay on as long as I liked, unless the bike was parked and then the 2 hour limit kicked in. I'm not sure about my '02 radio, as it was removed the first week I had the bike and replaced with an iPod. That will play as long as my bike's battery allows, and never repeat a song.
Now that I'm thinking more about it (a rare occurence, I know ) the behavior I see/hear may be new as of the 05 and later LTs. I don't recall my 99 or 02 LT radios doing this.

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My '05 has done it since day one.
Yup, mine too. I also recently discovered that leaving the key positioned to off, not lock, with everything turned off will yield a stone dead battery in about three days.

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My -05 LTs radio works as long as I ride (+ 2 h ). The radio SVOL is off. My manual says that if You have VOICEII, the radio SVOL should be off and the SVOL should be adjusted via VOICEII. I don´t know if this has nothing to do with radio shutting off after 2 hours while riding, but mine has never done that. Jari

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