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post #1 of 38 Old Sep 7th, 2006, 8:47 pm Thread Starter
 
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If you're Dumb, Shut off the bike

So I'm dumb, ego is shot and I'm embarrassed. Should have shut off the bike. I live on the SE coast of Florida and have to deal with the "perpetually up" lift bridges over the Intercoastal Waterway. This morning, of course, the bridge was up. As I take my place among a hundred or so vehicles waiting for the bridge I figured I'd put her on the side stand, put my feet up on the boards and relax while waiting for the bridge. So, I put down and made sure the sidestand was fully extended and firm, put my right foot up on the board, crossed my arms comfortably and began putting my left foot up on the board. Unfortunately, I was too dumb to shut the bike off so it was idling in neutral. As I placed my left foot on the board I also hit the shift lever, instantly putting it in to first gear, the bike lurched forward and I went down. Right foot got caught between the board and the brake lever in the process. It was pretty hard to look cool anymore, so I squatted and "assumed the position" to lift up the LT; someone seeing my dilemma was thoughtful enough to come over and help me right the bike and I was soon on my way. I'm sure everyone else had a good laugh. The ankle is currently bruised and swollen; no damage to the bike. In the future I'll better plan my wait, which will include shutting off the bike. Ah, the things you learn when you're dumb.
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You're foot will heal...probably sooner than your ego unfortunately.

At the risk of insulting you, here's some food for thought. Never sit on your bike with it in Neutral, whether it's running or not.
  • Come to a stop with bike in 1st gear, clutch in.
  • Shut off bike. Let out clutch.
  • Roll bike forward, put down kickstand.
  • Put bike on kickstand, then relax.
The only time my bike's are in Neutral is when I'm working on them and they are on the centerstand.

Maybe this post isn't for you. But someone out there may benefit from this information.
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Don't beat yourself up Sam. It might be me you just saved by sharing. Thanks

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Or you could just be so freaking tired that you back it in to your hotel spot, totally forget about the sidestand, and just get off and watch it flop over!
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You might have just saved someone else from a humbling experience! Thanks for sharing and I hope the Ankle gets better soon!

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The beauty of an LT is only skin deep.

It's a human creation - when it's doing what it was designed to do, the way it was designed to do it - it's very pleasing to most.

However, being human created, it's far from perfect. Yea, gravity still sucks. When she's in a position contrary to designed operation - I don't care who you are, there simlply ain't no way to look good. BUT, to get it back up and going on - now that's grace

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Embarrassment is a waste of time. Things are going to happen, & most of the time people will be more concerned about your welfare than "the incident". Remember how you feel when you see a friend with a problem?

It was just another data point on a learning curve. Thanks for passing it on, & start saving gas at those bridges.

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You're foot will heal...probably sooner than your ego unfortunately.

At the risk of insulting you, here's some food for thought. Never sit on your bike with it in Neutral, whether it's running or not.
  • Come to a stop with bike in 1st gear, clutch in.
  • Shut off bike. Let out clutch.
  • Roll bike forward, put down kickstand.
  • Put bike on kickstand, then relax.
The only time my bike's are in Neutral is when I'm working on them and they are on the centerstand.

Maybe this post isn't for you. But someone out there may benefit from this information.
Excellent summary. I omitted step three earlier this year and almost lost her.
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don't know if it'll make you feel any better about it, but i'm purty sure most of us have pulled dumbass moves as bad or worse.

i once rebuilt the front end of a GL1100, then reassembled it WITHOUT refilling the radiator. there was coolant in the reservoir but none in the plumbing. i then proceeded to ride the bike to work ... and back ... for three days before discovering my stupidity. the temp gauge didn't read high because no fluid was in there.

the most amazing thing: i filled the radiator and rode the bike another two years before selling it. never missed a beat.
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Or you could just be so freaking tired that you back it in to your hotel spot, totally forget about the sidestand, and just get off and watch it flop over!
Thank God I'm no longer alone on this one!
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There should be a safety switch on the side stand. My bike won't run if I put the side stand down.
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Or you could just be so freaking tired that you back it in to your hotel spot, totally forget about the sidestand, and just get off and watch it flop over!
Or... you could have put the LT on the centerstand and then gone around to the back of the bike and leaned up against the top case to chat with someone, only to watch it roll forward off the centerstand.

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There should be a safety switch on the side stand. My bike won't run if I put the side stand down.
Hi, Gary - Toad will start, and idle, with the sidestand down IF we're in neutral gear. And of course, will start and run with the clutch dis-engaged by the clutch lever
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Let's face it, you can't teach "stupid".
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Let's face it, you can't teach "stupid".
According to MSF..."Stupid hurts."

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Or... you could have put the LT on the centerstand and then gone around to the back of the bike and leaned up against the top case to chat with someone, only to watch it roll forward off the centerstand.
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Good write-up, makes me think twice about waiting for a light in neutral...

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Talking Mountain Bike Flop!

I used to commute on a mountain bike to work, (27 miles one way) I was a block away from work and came up to the traffic light. I had a cop car to my left and I was stopped, balancing and rolling onto and back off of a big turtle shell road divider.... I rolled back one more time and started to fall over and I couldn't get my feet clear of the traps and just went over like a sack o taters... I was skinned up and bleeding and the cop rolled his power window down to ask if I was okay... I just nodded my head and took off with out saying a word..... Man, I was so bloody embarrassed!
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Red face Yeah and there's me that...

Rolled smartly into the garage. Was going to put the bike away for the evening. Pushed the button for the electrohydraulic sidestand to deploy...

... and remembered that its the centerstand and oh damn I don't have an electrohydraulic whatza mathingy.

Left the damn thing lie there for awhile for the embarassment....

Keith your not alone with the getting off da bike and walking away to watch the b___h flop over on her side.

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There should be a safety switch on the side stand. My bike won't run if I put the side stand down.
It WILL run in neutral! He had shifted to neutral, but hit the gearshift putting his foot on the peg. That would have shut the engine off, but not before the bike has lurched forward.

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Thats got to be one of the dumbest things I ever heard!
No not dropping the bike.
Sitting there waiting for the bride to lower, at that time you know no one is using the other (motorcycle) lane, which is when you move to the front of the line showing the cagers once again. Why bikes are better than cars.
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ouch...

sounds like you might wanna' order an extra set of stickers and pins, my friend...

glad you're ok

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I'm sure there are a lot more "untold" stories out there............
This is just one of mine.

On the way back from EOD school in Alabama I had parked the bike on a "remove tire chains" wide spot on the shoulder of the freeway going thru Wyoming somewhere. Because this was back in the days when Uncle Sam paid very little......I had budgeted my trip very carefully. Ate a LOT of Beanee Weanies and slept at campgrounds...you know. Well, I'd had my daily rations already that day......was hot, and tired, threw the bike (Moto Guzzi 850-T) up on the centerstand and draped my ankles up over the handlebars. Mind you, this bike had the "police Kit" on it....floorboards...heel/toe shifter....and the wide, wide wheel barrow handlebars, and that really long, locking sidestand!! Had one of those ancient Windjammer fairings too....with the radio wired for headphone jacks etc, etc.
Well, I leaned back up against the tent/sleeping bag pile and let my head settle into a really comfortable position, thinking about what I'd be able to afford to eat later on in the day....maybe a grilled cheese with a great big ol' dill pickle...mmmm goooooood!! After a bit I opened my eyes and was looking at the clouds, and I'm thinking "Man! I'm so hungry I'm getting dizzy....I must be pretty nauseous.....those clouds weren't moving that fast when I stopped!!"....and just about then I find myself rolling across the asphalt on my hands and knees!! Yep...you got it.....the asphalt was so new, and the day was so warm.....my bike had sunk into it just far enough that both wheels were on the ground, with nothing to hold it up any longer. Over it went!!

Well, with a bit of a struggle I eventually got it unstuck........only to find that the part of the tab that locked the sidestand into its slot, was broken! It would still retract like it was supposed to....and come down like it was supposed to.....just wouldn't lock in place...........like it was supposed to.

Well, I did get back into town, (Great Falls) the next day, but before I went home, I thought I'd stop at the dealership I'd bought the bike from, to see if they could get me another of those tabs for the sidestand. So I pulled up, kicked the sidestand out, leaned the bike over and went to get off.....all in one smoooooooth well coordinated motion. Except the bike kept going.....and going....and going......BAM! It went so far over it snapped the windshield into 2 neat pieces!! you remember that little tab?? The one that's supposed to lock into place and keep the bike from rolling any further forward?? Well, it also kept the sidestand itself from going past the locking slot too!! Except it no longer had the tab there........... I don't know what I did faster....look around to see if anybody else was watching.....or pick the bike up and get it up on the centerstand. So ended my day.....embarrassingly!!

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that all of you should invest in a "if you can read this, stop laughing and help me lift my LT" sticker set and Droppers Anonymous pin (see other thread on this section...)


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I remember sitting on my Moto Guzzi Cali 3 chatting to friends before leaving the bike club. Engine running, sidestand down, leaning back and feet on the footboards. Knocked it into gear and took off across the car park and down the road, still lying back against my sleeping bag. Luckily I managed to save it. Didn't make the same mistake again.


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I've told how I dropped my LT the first time I turned into my driveway.

I haven't told how I dropped it the second time.

In my driveway.

I picked the bike up and got it to the bottom of the hill, and turned around and into the place I park. I put the bike up on the center-stand, and went into the house. A few hours later, I had recovered from the first drop and decided to ride the big beast again.

I got the owners manual out and read about how to take it off the center-stand. Ok. Grab the handlebar, and the handhold on the side of the bike and roll it off the stand. NO PROBLEM.

Except I wasn't ready for all that weight. BLOOP. This time it was laying slightly downhill. I couldn't pick it up by myself. Had to get my landlord to give me hand.

Haven't used the center-stand since. I gotta try that thing again one of these days.
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I didn't know we were open to other Dumb Stunts till I read all the way through.
At the gym 1st (and last) time on a treadmill.
I'm moving along, old guy gets off the one next to me.
A really cute chick gets on and smiles at me
As I turn to introduce myself, I had stopped walking, WAM right off the back of the thing into the wall with my shoulder.
That chick still smiles at me, I don't even talk to her, figure shes bad luck.
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Wayne, What's your inseam?? I'm 32 inches and I just climb on and shove it forward. It may not work for you, but it is another way. I've never done it as the book says. YMMV.

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Hi , ...I haven't drooped my LT ,...Yet ..nope... not me ...I have dropped most of the bikes I have ever owned , just not the LT... BUT...

I have run it over with our motorhome . I was trying to get our motorhome moved over a little on a camp site , and I thought I had our K1200LT/Hannigan Rig out of the way . Well I see my wife doing a Maculae Collagen ( both hands on her face , & her mouth wide open ) as I was backing up .

So I think ,... well I better check out what she is getting so executed by . So I put it in park ( so I thought ) and went to the door , but the door won't open . our bike is kind of stuck to the side of the motorhome .

Then the Motorhome takes off forward towards a pop up camper , wile I'm still at the side door . So I run up the front and get it stopped before it flattens the pop up .

You would not believe it , all I did was knocked the left mirror off , and bent up the clutch handle . there wasn't any pant , or plastic damaged I had drug our rig 15' sideways, but it was drug by the clutch handle only .

So I pop the mirror back on , and it was almost as good as new .

I know I was being looked after that day! ...patric ...

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Wayne, What's your inseam?? I'm 32 inches and I just climb on and shove it forward. It may not work for you, but it is another way. I've never done it as the book says. YMMV.
Steve, that's what I'm going to do next time. It's the way I always did my other bike and I never had any problem. As a matter of fact I did just the the one other time I took the LT off the center-stand at the dealers with no problem. I was just trying to be "by the book" that time. Duhhhhhh
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Wayne, What's your inseam?? I'm 32 inches and I just climb on and shove it forward. It may not work for you, but it is another way. I've never done it as the book says. YMMV.
That's the way I do it!

But I did drop mine in the drive way.
I was backing it out of the garage thinking this reverse is just damn cool.
As I was backing I thought I would swing it around 90 degrees and pull away ..well as I was doing that I was looking over my shoulder to see if I was going to clear the rv,which I did ..even as it fell.
After that..I try not to turn backing up!
I'm 5'10 but only weigh 150!
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Re: If you're Dumb, Shut off the bike

Don't feel bad. I dropped my VTX at 1mph with my wife on the back, right in front of our neighbors house. My wife landed on me, the bike just stopped. No damage to the bike. Major damage to my pride......!! Yes, it was a brain burp - tight radius corner, not enough throttle.... And I still pucker up on that corner, which I've gone around hundreds of times beforehand.....

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Re: If you're Dumb, Shut off the bike

LOL. The other day leaving work, had the Tiger up on the center stand. Start bike put on gear, get on bike snick into first gear (I thought) both feet on pegs rock her off the center stand apply a little gas let out on the clutch and oh C(*& it is still in neutral. Got my feet down, but she is too far over long slow struggle to the ground. Of course, first thing to do is look around and see who is looking.
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