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post #1 of 11 Old Aug 28th, 2006, 11:57 pm Thread Starter
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Red face ME 880 Tread Separation

2001 K1200LT, Front tire, 18,ooo mi with lots of tread remaining, no wear markers showing, no cupping, always run 42 PSI and check every time I ride. The bike is so smooth any strange vibration is immediately noticeable. Today while riding I felt a little vibration while riding below 50 mph. Vibration almost unnoticeable above 50 mph. I thought it was road surface vibration at first and then tested feeling through handlebars by very lightly resting hands on grips and could feel the vibration more when letting loose. I decided to stop and check things over. I thought it might be the start of a rear end failure, but suspected a tire malady because the vibration seemed to be related to tire rotation speed. I put the beast on the center stand and checked the front tire first. I pulled the tire through 360 degrees of rotation using the wheel spokes - and found a big lump in the center of the tread about five inches long and two inches wide. I suspect this problem was caused by me hitting a rock in the road on a previous ride. When I checked the tire pressure this morning before riding I inadvertently put in a few extra pounds attempting to add a couple pounds. I believe the extra pressure made the weak spot, where the tire hit the rock, more pronounced. The area of the bulge also has a horizontal split about two inches wide in the center of the tire tread - probably from the rock strike. I decided not to continue the ride - rode home on the back of a Road Star, about 25 miles, and retrieved my trailer to haul the cripple home. I believe this is a positive testimony for the strength of the ME 880 carcus. I probably rode on that weak tire for 50 miles at speeds up to 75 mph. The strange vibration gave me enough warning to stop and check out the situation before experiencing a total tire failure. I believe I will now do a more thorough check of my tires in addition to the pressure check before each ride. I will be replacing the failed tire with another ME 880. The worst part of this experience was the ride on the back of that Road Star - I pitty the guys wife.
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post #2 of 11 Old Aug 29th, 2006, 12:34 am
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Thanks for sharing - it's nice to know the 880's didn't let go. Just curious - how old were they?

I like the 880's - on my 3rd set. You made me laugh though, with "18,ooo mi with lots of tread remaining". I'd say you got your money's worth!

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ME 880 Tread Separation

Correction on the tire mileage - just reaccounted and found that the tire had closer to 15,000 miles wear. The bike has 35,000 miles total ,last rear (3rd) changed at 30,000 miles, this is the second front which was changed at about 20,000 miles. I do get great wear from the MEs . I buy them in pairs but change as required. Have the 3rd front (new) sitting in my garage. Will do the front wheel removal tomorrow and have the new tire mounted and balanced at a local motorcycle tire dealer in Phoenix. The failed tire was at least two years old.
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I had a similar "bubble" on a rear ME880 a couple of years ago,
spotted it as I was getting of my bike in my parents driveway, a hundred miles from home.
Left there in ma's minivan with my rear wheel and came back a day later.
The tire was nearing the end of its usefull life and was going to be replaced soon anyway.
This was the first defect I've had with a Metzler
and considering I've done most of my 300 thousand BMW miles on Metzlers,
I ain't complaining.


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Re: ME 880 Tread Separation

I just noticed a similar bubble on my rear Metzler tire. I believe the tire has about 10,000 miles on it. I need to get it replaced ASAP. It's great riding weather here in Phoenix!
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Re: ME 880 Tread Separation

Without regard to brand of tire - this bodes well to regularly inspect your rubber!! I used to check my tire pressure every day before a ride. Along with that I would give the tread a once over inspection. Then I installed a TPM system and I stopped doing those inspections every day since I would know what the pressure was as soon as I started riding.

I too found a bubble a while back on an old front tire just as I was getting ready to replace it. I have since started the daily inspections again, it is just worth it and too risky to not do it!

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Hey jzeiler, this is the first I've heard of a TPM for the bike. Can you post some more details please.

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Re: ME 880 Tread Separation

I believe that Kissan offers a unit for any model bike.

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Hey jzeiler, this is the first I've heard of a TPM for the bike. Can you post some more details please.
I installed a Smartire system some years ago. They no longer make them for bikes and cars but they do pop up on Fleabay from time to time. There are several aftermarket units out there.

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Re: ME 880 Tread Separation

I had this same thing happen on the ME880 I had on the front of my bike (Aug/Sep of last year). This was the tire on the bike when I bought it last June. The bike had 63,000+ miles on it but I'm not sure how many miles were on the tire but I could tell it was close to being "used up."

Like budman stated that he felt a vibration, I had the same experience. I had my wife with my on the bike on the freeway doing 65 mph when all of a sudden there was a uneasy feeling vibration in the bike. I noticed it changed with speed so I suspected something with the tire. When I got the bike over on the side of the road I found a large bulge on the front tire. It was very hot when I first felt it and very spongy. As it cooled down it shrank and got stiffer (less spongy).

I had ME880's on my 2006 VTX and when I bought this 2001 K1200LT but after some research decided to go with the Avon Storm Ultra 2's both on the front and rear and am very happy with them so far. I think the bike rides softer and can tell the grip is better than the ME880's. I'll just have to see how much mileage I can get out of these compared to the ME880's.

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Re: ME 880 Tread Separation

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<...>Avon Storm Ultra 2's both on the front and rear and am very happy with them so far. I think the bike rides softer and can tell the grip is better than the ME880's. I'll just have to see how much mileage I can get out of these compared to the ME880's.
If your Storms get half the life of the ME880s, I would be surprised.

The storms I had rode great, but I had a failure with one of those a few years back. Can happen to any tire.

I have the BT020s on my '05 now, but expect will be back to the ME880s next pair swap.

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