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post #1 of 16 Old Jul 24th, 2015, 2:01 pm Thread Starter
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Good job I'm not superstitious!

I'm just about to come back to the K1200LT fold.
I've had a few over the years (15 years) and I've just worked out this next one is my 13th!
Over the last few years I've had 4 Triumph Rockets, any number of R1200RT's and a K1600.
Just can't keep away from the LT's though!

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I'm just about to come back to the K1200LT fold.
I've had a few over the years (15 years) and I've just worked out this next one is my 13th!
Over the last few years I've had 4 Triumph Rockets, any number of R1200RT's and a K1600.
Just can't keep away from the LT's though!

Simon

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Re: Good job I'm not superstitious!

Simon, you can't leave us hanging like that. We need a full report on what is so great about the LT and what is not so great about all the other bikes. That's a lot motorcycle to experience in a short time.

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13Th bike. Wow.. How did you like the K1600?

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Simon, you can't leave us hanging like that. We need a full report on what is so great about the LT and what is not so great about all the other bikes. That's a lot motorcycle to experience in a short time.
Not sure I can answer that...I suppose it just feels so right and capable.
The rocket is a fantastic bike for a quick squirt around, massively powerful, ALWAYS puts a grin on your face the LT certainly isn't as powerful
The RT, again a brilliant ride, smaller, lighter than the LT , but I'm not 100% convinced by the air cooled engine. One of the RT's I had started to act very strange on a hot day on traffic, just didn't feel I could trust it. Of course, later RT's are liquid cooled so probably fine.
The K1600, fabulous bike (I'd certainly have another, later model) but the 2011 clunky gearbox ruined the whole experience for me.
Despite being so big, I use the LT for everything, commuting into town, going up to the shops, touring Europe.
I've always called it "the best bike in the world" and at this moment in time, I still feel it is. I love my flying armchair.
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Yes, 13th LT
LOVED the K 1600 but just couldn't get around the MASSIVE clunk going into first every time. With such a modern, sophisticated bike it was just unacceptable. I understand later models have this sorted, so would definitely have another. Fabulous engine, brilliant extras, it will edge ahead of the LT in my opinion as long as the gearbox issues are sorted.
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One other thing, when I bought the K1600, I thought the adaptive headlight was just a gimmick.
Absolutely brilliant idea! The first time I rode the bike round some lanes at night I was laughing like a maniac to myself in my helmet, it works superbly and is genuinely a useful addition especially on a bike used for touring. VERY impressed.

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I have to admit the LT is the best touring bike I ever had and my wife would agree with me a 100% and as far as top heavy if I am solo it is not a problem its when I have a passenger is when I have to stay a little more alert of the top heavy thing

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Thanks for your reply. I to ride mine every where daily. Not much experience with different bikes but I won't let them bash the Lt on other forums. Most comfortable bike I've ever ridden.
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Thanks for your reply. I to ride mine every where daily. Not much experience with different bikes but I won't let them bash the Lt on other forums. Most comfortable bike I've ever ridden.
And how do you stop them?

There are many aspects of the LT to rightfully bash. It was the bashing in this forum that gave me guidance on fixing many weak areas before they caused serious problems. Plastic QD replacement was one of my first upgrades. Bashing is a good thing for a bike with as many Achilles heels as the LT possesses.

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I suppose if the perfect bike was out there, we'd all be riding one!

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I suppose if the perfect bike was out there, we'd all be riding one!

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True, but some seem to feel that anyone who criticizes their bike is somehow attacking them personally. I believe that almost all bashing is based on at least a grain of truth. And I have read the criticisms posted here for many years and used many of them to fix my LT before it breaks. So, I have no issue with anyone who bashes the LT.
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Very good point.

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The bashing I hear comes from other forums namely the Concours and the FJR sites. There are a lot of converts from Bmw riders on ea. site and they mostly relay their experience with different Bmw's they've had. Those with no Bmw experience tend to be the bashers and they feel their bikes are far superior then all others.
I felt with your hands on experience we'd get an honest review of a few other bike you've had.
As for bashers on this site, well the bikes do have their inherent problems like all bikes do. One could argue the case for engineered to come back to the dealer?

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The bashing I hear comes from other forums namely the Concours and the FJR sites. There are a lot of converts from Bmw riders on ea. site and they mostly relay their experience with different Bmw's they've had. Those with no Bmw experience tend to be the bashers and they feel their bikes are far superior then all others.
I felt with your hands on experience we'd get an honest review of a few other bike you've had.
As for bashers on this site, well the bikes do have their inherent problems like all bikes do. One could argue the case for engineered to come back to the dealer?
Yes, human nature and often just good fun. Nothing to get excited about. I have been looking for an alternative to the LT since my FD failed three years ago and my clutch started slipping at the same time. I haven't yet found an overall better bike for my riding style.

I first tried the 1600GTL, but after two weeks riding one both my wife and I liked our LT better.

I test rode an FJR a year or two ago when they finally put cruise on it. It was a sweet machine for solo riding, with a far better drive train than any BMW I have ridden. However, it is not a bike my wife would ride 100 miles, let alone 600 as we do occasionally on our LT.

So, as much as I dislike several key things about the LT, it as yet has no real competition for my riding style. Maybe the Wing, but Honda screwed me over on a 1984 Accord and I won't buy anything that has the name Honda on it. The new RTW might be a good alternative, but I suspect it will have more low RPM vibration than I care for and the passenger accommodations likely won't match the LT.

So, the search continues.

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