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post #1 of 21 Old Jun 18th, 2015, 10:22 am Thread Starter
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How many LTs are out there?

Just wondering (after seeing threads on scraping and parting out LTs) how many are still out there?
I am hoping mine will be a well maintained example LT like one of those Toaster Tank Orangesicle R90s that I love.
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Just wondering (after seeing threads on scraping and parting out LTs) how many are still out there?
I am hoping mine will be a well maintained example LT like one of those Toaster Tank Orangesicle R90s that I love.
There are lots of K1200LTs out there and will be well into the future.

But a "Toaster Tank Orangesicle R90s"?

The "toaster tank" was the much derided chrome appointed tank of the 1970-1973 Slash5 series. The tank was small and many folks threw them away for larger touring tanks. Today, the toaster tank is a somewhat sought after. I did a frame up rebuild of a 1970 R75/5 short wheel base toaster. It was the /5 series that abandoned the all black with white pin stripes color scheme of all prior BMW bikes. With the /5 Series there were a number of paint colors to choose from in addition to the "toaster" tank. BMW was trying to compete with the styling offerings of other manufacturers. The Japanese were making great inroads into the American motorcycle market in those days.

The R90S was introduced in 1974 can came with two paint options, "Silver smoke", and "Daytona Orange". Any R90S with a toaster tank is someone's modification. I did a frame up rebuild of a 1974 Silver smoke R90S.

sold both those bikes... you can't keep everything. BUT, I still have my 2000 K1200LT Canyon Red.

The beauty of those old airheads is the simplicity of maintenance compared to modern bikes. The K1200LT is an overly complex monstrosity compared to the Airheads so keeping the KLT on the road will be more challenging over time.
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There are lots of K1200LTs out there and will be well into the future.

But a "Toaster Tank Orangesicle R90s"?

The "toaster tank" was the much derided chrome appointed tank of the 1970-1973 Slash5 series. The tank was small and many folks threw them away for larger touring tanks. Today, the toaster tank is a somewhat sought after. I did a frame up rebuild of a 1970 R75/5 short wheel base toaster. It was the /5 series that abandoned the all black with white pin stripes color scheme of all prior BMW bikes. With the /5 Series there were a number of paint colors to choose from in addition to the "toaster" tank. BMW was trying to compete with the styling offerings of other manufacturers. The Japanese were making great inroads into the American motorcycle market in those days.

The R90S was introduced in 1974 can came with two paint options, "Silver smoke", and "Daytona Orange". Any R90S with a toaster tank is someone's modification. I did a frame up rebuild of a 1974 Silver smoke R90S.

sold both those bikes... you can't keep everything. BUT, I still have my 2000 K1200LT Canyon Red.

The beauty of those old airheads is the simplicity of maintenance compared to modern bikes. The K1200LT is an overly complex monstrosity compared to the Airheads so keeping the KLT on the road will be more challenging over time.
My 2000 K1200LT will out me. An Canyon ROT "rocks". My only real problem is it age and only has 59,000 miles.
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Re: How many LTs are out there?

I would imagine that many will be converted to trikes. I am finding more like my 2003 Hannigan K1200LT on the road.
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I have three LT's & two of them run & the other is for parts.
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They will not go way. As for me, my 2000 canyon red is the preferred tourer. The ride doesn't get much better especially since I put Olins on her last year. I love blowing past other bikes on the interstate. Although my FD went t the end of a long trip, I still won't trade the old girl. Many say that she is top heavy but slow speed maneuvering is easy if you look where you want to go instead of where you are going. Long live the LT's. The little wifey loves the ride of the LT; doesn't like the ride of the GTL. The RT is great but less room for the passenger. JMHO.
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In my opinion, the K1200LT is still in a class by itself. The combination of performance, handling, two up touring comfort are still unsurpassed by BMW and unmatched by other entrants in the touring market.

I used to say, somewhat tongue in cheek, that the K1600GTL was a place-holder for the next version of the K1200LT. I may yet be proven correct.

The radical styling changes without improvement in weather protection for either rider or pillion in the K1600GTL makes it fall short as "the" upgrade of the K1200LT.

Over the years, new BMW models generally were improvements over previous models in all ways. Not so for the K1200LT. For many of us, there just isn't the bike that does it all as well as the KLT.

Newbies asking oft repeated questions on this site may get abbreviated replies from somewhat weary old timers here, but this site remains the place for information on all aspects of the K1200LT. The archives are hard to sort through, but the data is there.

And, as long and gentlemen like jzeiler and saddleman continue to provide information and hands on services for K1200LT owners, this bike will have a very enduring legacy.

Someday the K1200LT may have a cult following like the R90S. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but I do see the K1200LT as in a class by itself. On several occasions, I've surprised sport bike riders in the winding mountains of VT and NH when they looked back to see we were still "in the pack" riding two up with camping gear. No, it is not a sport bike, and you have to flog the engine right up to the rev limiter to keep up, but I know of no other bike with comparable two up touring comforts that can do that.

The K1200LT is still in a class of its own.
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In my opinion, the K1200LT is still in a class by itself. The combination of performance, handling, two up touring comfort are still unsurpassed by BMW and unmatched by other entrants in the touring market.

I used to say, somewhat tongue in cheek, that the K1600GTL was a place-holder for the next version of the K1200LT. I may yet be proven correct.

The radical styling changes without improvement in weather protection for either rider or pillion in the K1600GTL makes it fall short as "the" upgrade of the K1200LT.

Over the years, new BMW models generally were improvements over previous models in all ways. Not so for the K1200LT. For many of us, there just isn't the bike that does it all as well as the KLT.

Newbies asking oft repeated questions on this site may get abbreviated replies from somewhat weary old timers here, but this site remains the place for information on all aspects of the K1200LT. The archives are hard to sort through, but the data is there.

And, as long and gentlemen like jzeiler and saddleman continue to provide information and hands on services for K1200LT owners, this bike will have a very enduring legacy.

Someday the K1200LT may have a cult following like the R90S. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but I do see the K1200LT as in a class by itself. On several occasions, I've surprised sport bike riders in the winding mountains of VT and NH when they looked back to see we were still "in the pack" riding two up with camping gear. No, it is not a sport bike, and you have to flog the engine right up to the rev limiter to keep up, but I know of no other bike with comparable two up touring comforts that can do that.

The K1200LT is still in a class of its own.
Charlie, I share those thoughts. This bike just does everything I would want it to do. The styling seems timeless, but time will tell. A very civilize creature it is!
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Someday the K1200LT may have a cult following
The K1200LT is still in a class of its own.
I have already drank the cool-aid......

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I have already drank the cool-aid......
Well then, you must know by now that the K1200LT is an overly complex, top heavy, problem prone, high maintenance monstrosity that wears out tires, budgets, and the patience of its owners.
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Sadly true,the least reliable BMW I have ever owned,but when all is going well it still brings a smile.
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Well then, you must know by now that the K1200LT is an overly complex, top heavy, problem prone, high maintenance monstrosity that wears out tires, budgets, and the patience of its owners.
But it still puts a smile on my face like almost nothing else.

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Just wondering (after seeing threads on scraping and parting out LTs) how many are still out there?
I am hoping mine will be a well maintained example LT like one of those Toaster Tank Orangesicle R90s that I love.
Still here!

Although garaged for the last year or so due to need of a new clutch - but house and kid absorbing THAT repair fund....

Still take it out on weekends and putz around town - shorter tow back to my house in case something REALLY bad happens...

Bike's at ~130K - clutch was replaced at 40K first time around so I guess that's not too bad - still no final drive issues so I'm hoping it'll last a few more years without that to repair. Oil changed regularly, tires are Metz., Ohlins front and back, dropped but once, etc. etc.

I'm lurking and absorbing as much as I can for the clutch repair job - maybe sometime after summer when the garage is a little cooler - although I have the itch to ride now!

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Still have mine but I'm on the fence. Daily rider and short trips but man I've got the urge to go long. Went for an hours ride tonight and the bike just pulls you back across the fence and says"hell no you're not". Did the " Saddleman Test" after the ride and the final drive was hot but I could hold on to it without difficulty. Just one sweet ride after another. Comfort with plenty of performance. All is well.

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I am going to try and ride mine until I cant ride anymore IF I can afford to keep it running This is only my second street bike and I dont do demo or test rides so maybe I just dont know any better?

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I cannot speak for other countries but the official number for the UK is at;

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=...q=bmw+k1200+lt

The two options are for pre and post 2004.

For our foreign readers ; SORN means stored and not paying road tax to use on the roads - quite normal to SORN a bike for the winter and thus only pay the road tax for the 6 months around summer.(Statutory Off Road Notification) if you don't use or keep your vehicle on a public road, eg you keep it in a garage or on your drive.

It is very hard to find a better bike for touring than the K1200LT. My wife has strong views on this. (Just back from a week in France).
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I love riding my lt. Smooth, comfortable, and agile. I'm 67 and have ridden since I was 15. For distance, you can't beat the lt. It has everything. Lots of LTs run flawlessly with very little repair. When it breaks, fix it and don't look back. It will be a long time for BMW to offer comfort we have seen in the LT. I have had many bikes but the LT still makes me happy to climb on. Maintenance is not difficult, but just a little timely. Love her and she will treat you well.
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My 07 is still the best there is and wife & I love her and the looks we get brings smiles to both of us
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I have three LT's & two of them run & the other is for parts.
Oh, to have sooo much garage. I would whimper, but this is a public forum.

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My girl was a die hard Harley girl as her late husband rode those and she rode and also rode with him. First time we were planning to go out, she showed up with a leather jacket and a half shell and I asked if she really wanted to protect only the top of her head. We postponed the ride and went to buy some proper protective flow gear and new helmets. She at first made fun of me and my LT but after only one ride, she had already decided that she wasn't going to get another bike for herself and would be quite happy coming along with me instead. She loves the LT and says of all the bikes she has been on, it was by far her favorite. As for the handling, I had her closing her eyes last week on the North GA twisties. Even as big and top heavy as it is, I had no issue keeping up (2 up) with those around me on the sport bikes. Even with the issues many have with them, it is an amazing machine. I hope to keep mine going for a long time to come.
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