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Radiator screens?

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I saw two references to LT radiator screens on this site. Homemade or is there an after market option. Wow only four weeks of riding and my two radiators look like a scene from National Geographic.

Anyone know of such a product?

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post #2 of 15 Old Oct 19th, 2005, 11:46 am
 
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This site has some:
http://motogear4you.com/mcart/index.cgi?code=3&cat=11
Curious as to how they would fit.
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Radiator Screens

I make the ones Raffy sells. If any of you have any questions feel free to call me at 410-608-4972 or PM me. I'll be glad to help as I am sure Raffy will be too.

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Anyone know of such a product?
Welcome, Steve -- If you go to the BMWLT.net forum (the link to the old site), and run a search on "radiator" and "screen" you should find a wealth of info and customer comments on Gene's product. I have a set, and I'm very happy with them. Gene's attention to detail makes this a well-executed design.

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Cool Pattern for screens

I certainly don't want to cut those out who make and sell these screens.

But I have purchased some material from the local Lowe's and am planning to make my own. Is there a pattern on this site for these or do I need to make one when I do mine and post it...


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Curious as to how they would fit.
Precisely right

The set I received had velcro strips exactly the right length to fit the metal flanges at the top and bottom of the radiators, and the bottom of the screens sit perfectly a fraction of an inch above the top lip of the center section of the lower fairing.
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I certainly don't want to cut those out who make and sell these screens.

But I have purchased some material from the local Lowe's and am planning to make my own. Is there a pattern on this site for these or do I need to make one when I do mine and post it...


Thanks

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Spence, There is no pattern on this site or the old site. You wouldn't be the first to make his with materials from Lowe's/Home Depot. As for me, I've got a set of Gene's and I think that they are the Cat's Meow.

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Patterns

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From Mark's pictures I really don't need a pattern.
I'll just measure the radiator and cut em....

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Thumbs up Here's your homemade screens

Much higher flow that perferated panels, Cheeper too.

See: http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...ts&Main=285984

And : http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...=&view=&sb=&o=

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Much higher flow that perferated panels, Cheeper too.

See: http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...ts&Main=285984

And : http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...=&view=&sb=&o=

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You're right about a higher flow rate, but as for cooling I don't think there is much difference. I've had my LT two southern summers now and I didn't have any higher temperature readings this summer from last using the perforated panels. Beside, for rocks being thrown into the radiator area, I'll trust the perforated panels before screen.

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Wow!

Many thanks to everyone who offered suggestions and options. Now just to decide.

First I think I'll go out and clean off the bugs to see how much of a hasstle it is to do. I do like the rock protection of the perforated offers.

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Many thanks to everyone who offered suggestions and options. Now just to decide.

First I think I'll go out and clean off the bugs to see how much of a hasstle it is to do. I do like the rock protection of the perforated offers.

Steve
The other issue is to find a suitable locking strip (Gene uses some form of duo-lok, not velcro) and an adhesive that will take the coolant heat over the long term.

FWIW, like you, there's no question I can make a set of guards and stick them on in a heartbeat. That said, I figured I'd be much farther ahead if I purchased Gene's guards, simply for the reason that he had already done all the homework on materials and had conducted field tests in hot conditions to prove his design.

In effect, I wasn't purchasing $3 worth of physical materials, I was purchasing $X of R&D/time/effort, i.e., I could put my time to other uses by *not* having to invest the effort to make up my own set (and likely do it a couple times, while figuring out what the "permanent" configuration should be). From that point of view, the Bug Guards look like much more of a bargin than at first blush.

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John, I did the same thing and it works great! just get the mesh material that is stiffer than regular screen wire, mine was fashioned from a covering for a gutter. The size of the screen was perfect. Cost about $1.50. Just measure the radiator and allow about a 1/4 inch more for the dimensions then slightly bend the screen as you install it so that it slips into the top and bottom edge of the radiator caps. If the screen doesn't lay flat then trim a little until it does. If you are careful with your trimming, you won't need any retainers. The screens will stay put behind the cap edges. Mine have been on my bike for over a year and you can pop them out to clean them. Works great! I painted mine black. Call me if you run into a snag. good Luck! Ron Ray 803-920-8164
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I certainly DO NOT want to take away from anybody's creativity in making their own screens, this is how I started Bug-Guards for Beemers, however may I make a suggestion to those that are doing their own. The reason I mounted them on the lips and not next to the radiators fins is two fold; 1) there is about a half inch gap between the screens and the fins if you mount them on the lips. This will allow a large rock to bend the screens and not hit the fins. I have had a photo sent to me showing an indented screen but the fins were not touched. 2) From my tests the 1/2 gap allows more cooling (tested with infa red temp guage).

Just my suggestions, take them and do with them as you will. I just thought I would help.

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Smile Re: Here's your homemade screens

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Much higher flow that perferated panels, Cheeper too.

See: http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...ts&Main=285984

And : http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...=&view=&sb=&o=

BTW, Off the old site from summer of "05".
Regards.
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Thanks for your pictures & dimension write up. Made a pair for my 06 & did my first ride yesterday in Northern Alberta, & we had BUGs....but not in my radiators Did some 100mhp for 15miles for this first time & what a rock the LT is to ride.
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