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post #1 of 24 Old Jun 15th, 2015, 5:36 pm Thread Starter
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It's 108 today and up to 111 this week in AZ. Night rides or way early. Have cooling vest but even that isn't efficient.

What do you wear in the heat?
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post #2 of 24 Old Jun 15th, 2015, 6:06 pm
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I have that vest that has gel packs that stay at 65 degrees; last a couple,of hours, and meanwhile the other set are freezing in a King Cooler bag with ice. Helps, but hot is hot. Thinking of trying the LD Comfort idea of wet your sleeves, don't wear a mesh jacket, amend let the cooled sir from you arms circulate around your body. Don't know if that is any better
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It's 108 today and up to 111 this week in AZ. Night rides or way early. Have cooling vest but even that isn't efficient.

What do you wear in the heat?
The best thing to wear is some mountains.

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Updated from my post 16 June 2014:
This is my seventh summer with my Veskimo.
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As I've stated in previous posts about overcoming the heat,
the Veskimo has eliminated the decision point about whether it's too hot to ride.
I prefer the 9 quart cooler over the backpack (have both).
The backpack is great for mobility away from the bike.
The 9 quart provides about 5 hours of cold before refilling with ice.
Water temperature entering the vest is about 48-50 degrees.
Water temperature is about 60 degrees returning to the cooler.
Removed the heat stress on Iron Butt rides or just long distance days.
Much better than my evaporative or phase change vests.
Yesterday, went out in the afternoon with temps at 98 degrees, real feel 103.
Consistent cold. Great ride.
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post #5 of 24 Old Jun 15th, 2015, 7:27 pm
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I wear a Veskimo Cooling Vest, and have both the hydration pack and the ice cooler versions. Basically, the vest consists of a blue nylon mesh material with tubing that circulates ice water from either the hydration pack or the cooler. The vest is worn against your skin, under a shirt. Both versions can be lithium battery operated or plug into a powerlet plug on the bike.

The hydration pack is good for shorter trips, as the ice only lasts for maybe 45 min. to an hour (and is also good for bicycling), while the cooler ice lasts for almost a tank of gas. I have the cooler mounted on a BMR rack over the pillion seat, where I also mounted the unit's control nob in easy reach.

I've worn it through the San Joaquin Valley in 112 degree heat and stayed comfortable, while previously had tried a regular cooling vest (same route & temp) that was soaked in water. The soaked vest was good for about 30 minutes and then rehydrated with my sweat and was pretty much awful....

I took the ice cooler version across country last year through CA, AZ, NM, TX, etc. and bought a new 10 lb. bag of ice at each gas stop. The Veskimo system is very expensive, but it's a lot nicer than wearing a damp and/or sweaty shirt, and you can ride all day long.

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Blocks of ice last longer than ice cubes.
I also use a Polar Bear cooler to insulate the 9 quart cooler; Ice lasts longer.
The Veskimo is a standard piece of kit on my Iron Butt rides.
Definitely extends my riding day by several hours.
Still need to maintain your fluid and electrolyte levels.
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I agree block ice lasts longer and use it when first leaving home, but it's hard to find on the road in the 9 qt. size, and the motel ice is free, and you can't always find a convenient place to freeze water bottles. I have used another collapsible cooler for additional insulation, but found motel/gas station ice lasts for about a tank and I want to minimize the need for additional stops.

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I just ride regardless of the heat. I carry a 16 oz bottle of water & it can last me at least 400 miles in temps above 100 F. I just use mesh gear.

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I just ride regardless of the heat. I carry a 16 oz bottle of water & it can last me at least 400 miles in temps above 100 F. I just use mesh gear.
+1! And I keep a water bottle hanging near the handlebars or Tank Bag which I can use to routinely spray/pour water down my front and back even while cruising down the Hwy! Instant cooling effect!

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I have that vest that has gel packs that stay at 65 degrees; last a couple,of hours, and meanwhile the other set are freezing in a King Cooler bag with ice. Helps, but hot is hot. Thinking of trying the LD Comfort idea of wet your sleeves, don't wear a mesh jacket, amend let the cooled sir from you arms circulate around your body. Don't know if that is any better
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I just ride regardless of the heat. I carry a 16 oz bottle of water & it can last me at least 400 miles in temps above 100 F. I just use mesh gear.
Same here, but I have only ridden up to 105, but that was with high humidity going through NY and MA several years ago. I was riding with a group of mainly cruisers and a couple of Wings. The cruiser folks really suffered at the stop lights, but had more air underway than did my wife and I. The Wing rider toppled over at one stoplight. He said it was due to being new to the bike, and he was a pretty spindly dude for a bike that size, but I think dehydration played a role also. My wife and I were wearing our BMW Commuter vented jackets and sliders Kevlar pants. We now also have Tourmaster vented jackets, but I've read that in extreme heat you are better off with less airflow against your skin. You want enough to provide evaporative cooling, but you don't want to bring more heat against your skin. A few years ago I read a long and fairly technical, but very interesting, article on this subject. I wish I could remember where now...

I figure if I can handle 105 and 80%+ humidity, I could probably handle 115 or more in desert humidity conditions. I was in Vegas a few years ago and it hit 107 and I was way more comfortable than I am here in PA when it hits 95 with 90% humidity.

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I just ride regardless of the heat. I carry a 16 oz bottle of water & it can last me at least 400 miles in temps above 100 F. I just use mesh gear.
That's pretty much what I do, just ride and drink water however I would say that you probably need at least that much water per hour. If you're only taking in 16 oz at 100+F every 400 miles I think you're probably running dangerously close to dehydration.

I'm not doctor, but that's my diagnosis - ride safe.

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That's pretty much what I do, just ride and drink water however I would say that you probably need at least that much water per hour. If you're only taking in 16 oz at 100+F every 400 miles I think you're probably running dangerously close to dehydration.

I'm not doctor, but that's my diagnosis - ride safe.
For some reason Steve the heat has never bothered me. I very seldom sweat regardless of how much water I drink. I have rode 800 miles at over 100 F & never got off the LT at gas stops & drank less that 30 oz of water.

I drink water all day long at work about 1 1/2 gallons & today it was over 100 degrees on my ride home for 1 hour in stop & go traffic & I didn't sweat at all.

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Anyone know of any used vest systems for sale?

Pretty costly.
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Anyone know of any used vest systems for sale?

Pretty costly.
I originally bought mine used, and have two Veskimo cooling vests (small size), that aren't being used, as I wear a large. To use them, you would need to buy the rest of the system for it to work, i.e., the 9 qt cooler or the hydration pack. The rechargable lithium battery is not needed if you plug the system into the bike. If interested, PM me.

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I wear an ice chest with leg holes. Always have cold beer ready at the end of the ride that way.
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Its nice and cool and rainy in Las Vegas... AZ is just to hot.

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I can't stand riding in the heat, I've always hated heat, if the humidity is above 60% and the temp is above 80 it is to hot for me. What about cooling for the helmet, that is what bothers me the most is the sweating in your helmet, then there is the heat on the legs. Except for Saddleman , who we all know is superhuman and I'm surprised he doesn't ride in the summer with heated gear on just for more of a challenge, I don't know how you do it, Cool body core or not.

Maybe that's why I want to retire to the mountains, on a lake at least 6000 feet above sea level. The only problem with that is those areas have heat in the form of forest fires.

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LDComfort offers a wicking skull cap that you soak in water and wear under your helmet. I have one but hardly ever use it and haven't since I got the Veskimo cooling gear. I don't really notice the heat as much anymore....

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I don't ride when it's too hot! That's what an SUV with air conditioning is for. When it's too hot, I get easily fatigued on a bike unless I'm sipping a cold beverage. For me, it's too dangerous and just not worth it. I ride for the fun of it, not to torture myself... Down in Flatlorda, I really don't ride that much in the summer, it's too hot and it rains all the time.......
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Really appreciate my Veskimo cooling system.
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It's eliminated the decision point of whether it's too hot to ride.
Rode 1675 miles from Thursday to Sunday between VA, NC and SC, visiting the Tour of Honor, Carolina Grand Tour, and 4 Corners of NC sites.
Temps in the high 90s, low 100s.
Comfortable, even in stop and go traffic.
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Really appreciate my Veskimo cooling system.
Cool Vest for Heat Stress Relief, Motorcycle Cooling Vest: Veskimo Personal Cooling Systems
It's eliminated the decision point of whether it's too hot to ride.
Rode 1675 miles from Thursday to Sunday between VA, NC and SC, visiting the Tour of Honor, Carolina Grand Tour, and 4 Corners of NC sites.
Temps in the high 90s, low 100s.
Comfortable, even in stop and go traffic.
My Veskimo has been great across country (CA, AZ, NM, TX, OK, LA, MS, AL, TN, VA, KT, OH, IO, IN, IL, IA, WS, MN, SD, NB, CO, UT, NV) and though the San Jacquin Valley in 112 degree heat. I match ice replenishments with gas stops....

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If anyone would have a large Veskimo with cooler that they would like to unload let me know.

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