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post #1 of 17 Old Jun 13th, 2015, 11:25 am Thread Starter
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2000 K1200LT Tire Question

A friend gave me a rear tire (no cost, never mounted - Metzeler,Z6 Roadtec 160/70 ZR17) for my 2000 K1200LT. I reviewed the posts on this forum and reviews for this tire and realize that this tire is not a recommended tire for a K1200LT. I always drive with 1 up and rarely take long trips. My question is will I have any clearance problems between the tire side and the drive shaft side. Further, will I have any problems/concerns if I use this sports tire? Any advice will be appreciated!
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Re: 2000 K1200LT Tire Question

[QUOTE=hfsmall; realize that this tire is not a recommended tire for a K1200LT. I always drive with 1 up and rarely take long trips. [/QUOTE]

If it's not recommended why would you even consider using it?

The recommended skins for LT are weight/speed rated. She's a big girl and runs fast on the slab.

Don't risk your life to save a few bucks.
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Re: 2000 K1200LT Tire Question

If it were I, I would give the tire back to your friend. But, it is your LIFE, so do as you please.
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... My question is will I have any clearance problems between the tire side and the drive shaft side. ....Further, will I have any problems/concerns if I use this sports tire?...
I'd just mount that sucker and see if there are any clearance problems. Then report back here so the rest of us will know. Thanks.

Part two: Well.... if it isn't weight rated for the K1200LT, maybe you can remove the top case, never ride two up, and calculate if the bike then weighs less than the weight rating of the tire you are considering.

Dark humor: and if you mount it and it blows out and puts you in the hospital for a few days, you can kill time while you are in traction posting on this site your results with that tire. Curious minds will want to know...
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Re: 2000 K1200LT Tire Question

You could sell that tire to me for $50.00. I'd run it on my R1200GS!

Oh no my GS RUNS A 170/60, sorry.

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Re: 2000 K1200LT Tire Question

By now I guess you get the opinion of the forum members. A catastrophic tire failure can happen one mile from home as well as one hundred miles from home. Give it back or sell the tire and get one rated for the bike, it doesn't matter how often you ride or how far from home.

It reminds me of the guy who didn't want to wear protective riding clothing because it was to hot, uncomfortable and expensive, well bleeding is much more uncomfortable and expensive.

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Re: 2000 K1200LT Tire Question

Do not use this tire. It is not worth injury or your life if it fails. Riding a motorcycle is dangerous at best (which we all forget at times), so why increase your odds for a problem.
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Re: 2000 K1200LT Tire Question

I don't get the concern about stuff like this. For instance, replacing a Z-rated tire with an H-rated one of the same size is "not recommended", and some (maybe most) tire shops won't mount it to the vehicle, or maybe on the wheel if they know the fitment, but that doesn't mean it's unsafe or that it will kill you. So, my advice as a non-lawyer is to mount the tire, presuming that you can get someone to do that, and see if it fits OK. If it does, as it should since it's the same size, ride it and see how it does. It may wear faster, and if you load the LT up like it's capable of being loaded, it may fail, so don't do that.

Then let us know how it goes.

And thanks for submitting the question. I learn something from each of these threads. Even the oil threads.

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I don't get the concern about stuff like this. For instance, replacing a Z-rated tire with an H-rated one of the same size is "not recommended", and some (maybe most) tire shops won't mount it to the vehicle, or maybe on the wheel if they know the fitment, but that doesn't mean it's unsafe or that it will kill you. So, my advice as a non-lawyer is to mount the tire, presuming that you can get someone to do that, and see if it fits OK. If it does, as it should since it's the same size, ride it and see how it does. It may wear faster, and if you load the LT up like it's capable of being loaded, it may fail, so don't do that.

Then let us know how it goes.

And thanks for submitting the question. I learn something from each of these threads. Even the oil threads.

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I don't get the concern about stuff like this. For instance, replacing a Z-rated tire with an H-rated one of the same size is "not recommended", and some (maybe most) tire shops won't mount it to the vehicle, or maybe on the wheel if they know the fitment, but that doesn't mean it's unsafe or that it will kill you. So, my advice as a non-lawyer is to mount the tire, presuming that you can get someone to do that, and see if it fits OK. If it does, as it should since it's the same size, ride it and see how it does. It may wear faster, and if you load the LT up like it's capable of being loaded, it may fail, so don't do that.

Then let us know how it goes.

And thanks for submitting the question. I learn something from each of these threads. Even the oil threads.

Nope that's a lie, I don't read the oil threads.

In this case it is replacing a 79V REINF (load of 963 lbs) tire with a 73W (Non REINF) (load of 803 lbs). Big difference in load rating and side wall rigidity.

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Re: 2000 K1200LT Tire Question

It is important to keep in mind the extra weight added to the side wall & tread when you are cornering.

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my records show that I have used one of these tyres, I got 11300 km from it, my comment to self was, do not use if towing, rear tyre too soft allowing rear end wobble, I don't ride 2 up so I am guessing it would be similar (wobble) with pillion + gear.

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Looks like that tire is 73W rated as opposed to the 79V recommended tire. So it has a higher speed rating but about a 150lb lower weight rating. I had a blowout in Idaho a couple years ago. Had to rent a car to go to Boise and the only tire there was the non-reinforced ME880 which has a 73H rating. Assuming about 1000 lbs for the bike then with the 73 rear and a 58 front the weight is still a few hundred pounds under the max tire rating. I completed that trip 2 up with gear on the 880 73H and continued to ride it until wornout, 11978 miles. I couldn't tell any difference. I suspect if I had a blowout on that one maybe I'd feel the lack of reinforcement, don't know. Tires on a bike are rated to attain maximum performance limits. I don't go anywhere near that in terms of my normal riding.


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The BMW Luxury Touring Community Forum is truly a valuable resource for K1200LT owners! I asked a question regarding problems/concerns if I use a sports tire? Many knowledgeable fellow K1200LT owners responded with advice regarding my question that was extremely helpful and informative. I will not be putting a sports tire on my K1200LT and would encourage others owners to use only approved load rated tires on their K1200LT. I currently have a Bridgestone Battlax BT020 on my motorcycle with 2000+ remaining miles. I have been very pleased with this tire and will most likely stay with the Bridgestone BT020. Thank you fellow K1200LT for responding to my question!
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Further, will I have any problems/concerns if I use this sports tire? Any advice will be appreciated!
If you really read the previous 50 or 60 tire threads, you would have realized that just posting this question would get you a virtual beating on this forum.
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The BMW Luxury Touring Community Forum is truly a valuable resource for K1200LT owners! I asked a question regarding problems/concerns if I use a sports tire? Many knowledgeable fellow K1200LT owners responded with advice regarding my question that was extremely helpful and informative. I will not be putting a sports tire on my K1200LT and would encourage others owners to use only approved load rated tires on their K1200LT. I currently have a Bridgestone Battlax BT020 on my motorcycle with 2000+ remaining miles. I have been very pleased with this tire and will most likely stay with the Bridgestone BT020. Thank you fellow K1200LT for responding to my question!
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If you really read the previous 50 or 60 tire threads, you would have realized that just posting this question would get you a virtual beating on this forum.
I thought we were pretty nice.
And his follow up post suggests he took it well.
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