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post #1 of 23 Old Jun 4th, 2015, 7:19 pm Thread Starter
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BMW's short windshield

From those that have BMW's short version of the windshield, I'd welcome some reviews.
- Was there a significant improvement in air flow for the rider?
- Was noise/turbulence increased significantly for the rider and/or passenger?
I'm considering swapping out the windshield during the summer months. Or perhaps keeping the short windshield on year-round and adding a Wunderlich or Verholen wind deflector for the cooler months. Thanks.

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My rider hated it, too much wind!

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Re: BMW's short windshield

I know this wasn't directly in your question but I just replaced my stock shield with a Parabellum, which they have a short version of, and it addressed your air flow/noise/turbulence issues very well. I replaced mine due to scuffing and age of the stock shield. Was very surprised by how quiet and stable the Parabellum is as well as the improvement on the pocket of air.

I've had it to 100mph and find it remains superior in all regards to the stock. The shield has a much more pronounced curve at the top than the stock, which is near flat when compared to the bottom. As the shield sits at an angle, greater or lesser depending on how high you have it raised, it will present between 1.5 and 3 inches taller in the middle than a stock shield of the same height.

Parabellum has 3 heights as standard (-2", 0", +2"). As a 6'1" rider with a 34" inseam I found the standard shield, at full down, was just infringing on my ability to view over it. I gave it a custom cut that brought it to the perfect height for me. At the original height and with the custom cut it had the same superior characteristics I mentioned above.

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My 05 came with the Euro shield (short factory). I ran it for a while and liked it then I went to a factory tall and added a Laminar Lip stick on. Ran that for a few years and then went back to the Euro for two all year riding. Gives plenty of airflow in the heat and not a lot of buffet on the pillion (she is also short ).

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Re: BMW's short windshield

Appreciate the input. I currently have a stock BMW windshield. I'm 5'8" with a 29" inseam so it's easier for me to live with a shorter windshield.
My focus so far has been on the BMW short windshield because it's my understanding that BMW uses a material that is less likely to splinter into shards upon impact. After two deer strikes on interstates and at speed over the past five years, safety, including the windshield is an important factor for me. On the other hand, I really want great air flow for the summers. Thanks again.

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Re: BMW's short windshield

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Is the BMW "short windshield" and "Euro windshield", the same thing? And as you noted it's a factory version, so it must be available through my local BMW dealer, right?


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My 05 came with the Euro shield (short factory). I ran it for a while and liked it then I went to a factory tall and added a Laminar Lip stick on. Ran that for a few years and then went back to the Euro for two all year riding. Gives plenty of airflow in the heat and not a lot of buffet on the pillion (she is also short ).

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My rider hated it, too much wind!
We found the remedy for that was to put a top rack bag on. Without it she gets her helmet pushed around too much and gets a sore neck. Always put it on now if she is riding.

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Just found the BMW short windshield and it was listed for $690 on the A&S BMW website! It's considerably more expensive than other windshield manufacturers. I'll have to think about whether it's worth ponying up for the BMW short windshield or continuing to ride with the stock BMW windshield.

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Just found the BMW short windshield and it was listed for $690 on the A&S BMW website! It's considerably more expensive than other windshield manufacturers. I'll have to think about whether it's worth ponying up for the BMW short windshield or continuing to ride with the stock BMW windshield.
How about buy a used stock windshield and cut it down to match the short windshield?

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How about buy a used stock windshield and cut it down to match the short windshield?

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That's what I'm thinking to do. I changed my stock OEM to a Cee Baileys -2 reverse contour that's shorter to see over (I'm 5'8") but with the upper curve provides nice wind protection. Now I want to try more airflow for the summer and plan to cut down my OEM.

Is the BMW short the same contour as standard only shorter, and by how much?

BMW's $690 is definitely too rich for my blood - my CB was in the $250 range and an aftermarket shorty should be in the same range.

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The BMW short windshield is about 4" less than the standard version.

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That's what I'm thinking to do. I changed my stock OEM to a Cee Baileys -2 reverse contour that's shorter to see over (I'm 5'8") but with the upper curve provides nice wind protection. Now I want to try more airflow for the summer and plan to cut down my OEM.

Is the BMW short the same contour as standard only shorter, and by how much?

BMW's $690 is definitely too rich for my blood - my CB was in the $250 range and an aftermarket shorty should be in the same range.

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Before anybody does any cutting, I can take my OEM full and and lay it on my OEM Euro-cut (short) to eliminate any doubt. Might be later in the day though.

My impression is the Euro stands up more, but sometimes my impressions are horrible failures. Especially my presidential ones. (yuk, yuk, yuk I'm so punny. )

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John

Is the BMW "short windshield" and "Euro windshield", the same thing? And as you noted it's a factory version, so it must be available through my local BMW dealer, right?
Yes you could but it would be very expensive and it would have to be ordered I am sure.

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Before anybody does any cutting, I can take my OEM full and and lay it on my OEM Euro-cut (short) to eliminate any doubt. Might be later in the day though.
Never got a round tuit... was the son's HS graduation and things were insane. I can do it sometime today if anyone is interested.

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It would be great if you could do a comparison between the Euro and standard versions for the windshield. It would be nice to know if they are identically shaped or otherwise. Thank you.

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It would be great if you could do a comparison between the Euro and standard versions for the windshield. It would be nice to know if they are identically shaped or otherwise. Thank you.
Done! Here is what I found and photos to the effect...

I couldn't lay it perfectly on it due to the covers, but it appeared that it would have laid right on it if they weren't there. So, as far as I can tell it is the same contour, just with a shorter profile and Euro-style cut at the top.

Note: Only the bottom picture is perfectly aligned (well almost) shield to shield as I was holding working a cameraphone with one hand and holding the shield with the other. It shows that it's pretty much the same edge profile too until the variation at the top. Other photos make it seem like it is wider, etc, but that didn't appear to be the case.








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OrovilleTim,

Well done! Thank you for posting the photos.

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Never got a round tuit... was the son's HS graduation and things were insane. I can do it sometime today if anyone is interested.
Thanks very much for posting up pictures. From them I'll make a template. Two questions: At the center, how much shorter is the Euro? Looks like about 6". And, if you lay a straight edge across the top of the Euro, how much does the center dip?

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Thanks very much for posting up pictures. From them I'll make a template. Two questions: At the center, how much shorter is the Euro? Looks like about 6". And, if you lay a straight edge across the top of the Euro, how much does the center dip?
I'm away from home this week. If you still need specs this weekend I can check then.

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I'm away from home this week. If you still need specs this weekend I can check then.
No hurry, but when you get a chance I'd appreciate it. It will be at least next week before I can get to it anyway.

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I have used the Euro windshield since the first spring trip with whatever the PO had on the LT. That shield created a backdraft and I thought my neck and back were in a freezer.

I've never looked back after the Euro and ride two up most of the time. No complaints from the back seat driver either!!

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Thanks very much for posting up pictures. From them I'll make a template. Two questions: At the center, how much shorter is the Euro? Looks like about 6". And, if you lay a straight edge across the top of the Euro, how much does the center dip?

Thanks, Jim
For me if you look at picture 3 the curve looks a mirror image to each other. So for the dip measurement just draw a straight line on yours and measure the height in the middle then transfer to below line for dip measurement

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