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post #1 of 14 Old Jul 31st, 2006, 7:53 am Thread Starter
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Angry Windshield finally crapped out yesterday

My shield has finally done what most have griped about on this forum, fogged up and delaminating. Now if I cannot get satisfaction from dealer, what are the pros & cons on the Cee Baileys BMW 1200 LT #1 std. cut & euro cut vs. BMW 1200 LT #2?


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post #2 of 14 Old Jul 31st, 2006, 12:01 pm
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Take care with your new one.

I see all the BMW bikes at our local dealership, second hand bikes for sale as well as the ones in for service. It astounds me that the owners don't care about their windscreens. 95% are scratched to hell. It all comes from cleaning using the wrong cleaning products or technique, but mostly a don't care attitude.

Follow the cleaning instructions as written by CB and use their cleaning fluid. Never rub or try and "clean" the bugs off the surface as you would a car windscreen. Best method, lots of water and soak them off! This keeps your screen brand new. Stone chips are the only thing that you cannot avoid. Check out the Vstream from ZTechnik. A really good screen with a special coating!

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Jerry, don't give up on your dealer without trying first. Regardless of a recent post stating that BMW Motorrad won't warranty a windshield, not 2 days ago my dealer said he WOULD replace a fogged windshield if the bike was still under warranty. Of course, maybe he isn't aware of Motorrad's new policy ...

If your dealer will replace your shield, the replacement made-in-USA-by-National Cycle shield won't fog, and you'll have the advantage of continuing to ride behind a polycarbonate shield. Some of us won't ride behind an acrylic shield (e.g., Cee Bailey) because of the way acrylic shatters in an accident.

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Thumbs up Plastic Polish might be the answer

Jerry,

Have you thought of just restoring the plastic? JANVIL makes a plastic retorer/polish. Many people have used this and swear by it. My windshield has fogging, as well as some other scratches. I am going to purchase this stuff for my shield. For $10, it is a much better solution than a full replacement.

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Jerry, don't give up on your dealer without trying first. Regardless of a recent post stating that BMW Motorrad won't warranty a windshield, not 2 days ago my dealer said he WOULD replace a fogged windshield if the bike was still under warranty. Of course, maybe he isn't aware of Motorrad's new policy ...

If your dealer will replace your shield, the replacement made-in-USA-by-National Cycle shield won't fog, and you'll have the advantage of continuing to ride behind a polycarbonate shield. Some of us won't ride behind an acrylic shield (e.g., Cee Bailey) because of the way acrylic shatters in an accident.

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I also need a new windshield. Went to National Cycle and searched by make/model of bike and got a screen that says......they have nothing for the K1200LT.

you have a part number?
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Thanks Bob, I'll give him a try, but won't get my hopes up, I'm not too crazy about BMW's warranty, I'm pretty sure they make it up as they go???

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Dan, that looks like it would work on a non coated shield, but this joner w/s has a film on either side of the polycarbonate. That is where my problem lies, within the film. So any money put into trying to revive this shield is wasted. Thanks anyway.

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I also need a new windshield. Went to National Cycle and searched by make/model of bike and got a screen that says......they have nothing for the K1200LT.

you have a part number?
No, but you can get it easy enough - it's your friendly neighborhood BMW dealer's part number for a replacement windshield for the LT. It's an official BMW part - made in the USA by National Cycle for BMW, but not available from National Cycle - available from your friendly BMW bike dealer.

Kinda like trying to buy a BMW Navigator GPS from Garmin - it's made by Garmin, but you can only buy the box that sez "Navigator" from your BMW dealer, not from Garmin.

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Hi Jerry,
IMHO I think, in the end, it might be better to bite the bullet and plan to replace the windshield on a regular basis. I'm not good about soaking the bugs of and all the correct maintainance procedures. It seems I wind up buying a new windshield every year or two. On my Wing, I purchased whindshields from "Tulsa". They were great but in a year or two the scratches would get on my nerves and I'de get a new one. I like the Cee Bailey #2 -2 with wings. *For me* it fits just right and I get the best combination of protection and visibility. I know some of the folks on the web-site don't like acrylic wind shields (e.g., Cee Bailey) and maybe with good reason. All I know is plastic windshields, whatever the maker, are not a durable item.
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Jerry, don't give up on your dealer without trying first. Regardless of a recent post stating that BMW Motorrad won't warranty a windshield, not 2 days ago my dealer said he WOULD replace a fogged windshield if the bike was still under warranty. Of course, maybe he isn't aware of Motorrad's new policy ...

If your dealer will replace your shield, the replacement made-in-USA-by-National Cycle shield won't fog, and you'll have the advantage of continuing to ride behind a polycarbonate shield. Some of us won't ride behind an acrylic shield (e.g., Cee Bailey) because of the way acrylic shatters in an accident.

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Well Bob you were right, I did give my dealer, (Twin City BMW Motorcycles, Savoy, IL), a call, they ordered the new shield, scheduled appointment for today, 08/12/06, just got back a few hours ago & all is well, new windshield no cost & no hassle, very friendly people!

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Well Bob you were right, ...
Gotta show that to my wife. She thinks it's not possible ...

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Jerry,

I have a VStream, new, I will sell for 155 plus shipping. Its new in the box. Put it on the bike but did not like it's looks.

PM or call....408-857-1196

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Thanks O.K., but I now have a new BMW windshield.

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Jerry, don't give up on your dealer without trying first. Regardless of a recent post stating that BMW Motorrad won't warranty a windshield, not 2 days ago my dealer said he WOULD replace a fogged windshield if the bike was still under warranty. Of course, maybe he isn't aware of Motorrad's new policy ...

If your dealer will replace your shield, the replacement made-in-USA-by-National Cycle shield won't fog, and you'll have the advantage of continuing to ride behind a polycarbonate shield. Some of us won't ride behind an acrylic shield (e.g., Cee Bailey) because of the way acrylic shatters in an accident.

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Amen Bob. I replaced three Cee Baileys shields before I bought the ZTechnik. Still not 100% what I need but much closer.
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