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post #1 of 10 Old Jul 25th, 2006, 2:01 pm Thread Starter
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Stop it! Make it stop! Please! Done!! (brake squeel)

I did the EBC rear pads - that helped for a bit, till the pads wore out (less than 10K miles). Put the OEM pads back in - rear sings again!
Now the fronts are sing'n to the cheap seats as well. ARG!!!

So - I whipped out the ol plastic and now I'm getting new:

EBC rear disk
EBC HH sintered rear pads
EBC HH sintered front pads (2 sets)

Chances are the HH pads'll wear the front disks (EDIT: FALSE!! see below) - but, I'm look'n for an excuse to put the EBC front disks up there anyway - someday. (EDIT: gonna have to find another excuse)

Now - hopefully, they'll arrive in time for this weekends Technofixit Gathering... (doubtful - what I get for effective planning)

Parts and 'express' shipping from BikeBandit.com $230 and change (W/AMA discount). I've heard good things 'bout these parts - so here's hoping. Wish me luck or send ear plugs!

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post #2 of 10 Old Jul 25th, 2006, 2:21 pm
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The HH pads do not wear out rotors! I used EBC HH pads on the rear most of the miles on my bike, the rear rotor was still just fine at 120,000 miles.

If EBC has not started supplying the FA407HH pads instead of the FA246HH for the front, you may not like them. The FA246 pads do not have the anti-rattle springs, and the pads rattle incessantly over rough surfaces when the brakes are not applied. They say that the FA407HH pads will replace the FA246HH when stock runs out.

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post #3 of 10 Old Jul 25th, 2006, 2:39 pm
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I just put the EBC rotor on the rear and mine does not squeal..

Actually I had all the squeal problems until I but a 'Wheaties' box cutout between the pad and the pistons.. Try it.. takes 20 minutes from start to stop unless you have to go buy a box of cereal..

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Jack, you did that with your EBC kit or the OEM stuff?

I'd bet Cherios would work as well - but I doubt Fruit Loops would cut it.

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Jack, you did that with your EBC kit or the OEM stuff?

I'd bet Cherios would work as well - but I doubt Fruit Loops would cut it.
Actually I did it with the OEM rotor a few years ago after I had it replaced them (didn't work) and then bought the EBC pads (didn't work) and didn't want to go with the red goop (a.k.a Disk Brake Quiet) because if it didn't work I had to deal with that mess.

I read it here on some post about using an old mechanic trick from when disk brakes came out years ago.. I thought it was worth a shot. Hell it's cheap enough and very quick. I found that I could pretty much get a season out of a set of Wheaties box shims.. Last time I renewed my shims used a 'coated' box from a box of Popsicles. They are holding up real well as the rain doesn't get them soaked. Prolly any frozen food box will do.. I just have good access to that type of box. My wife replaces the box when it disappears from the freezer...

I changed my rotor because it was clanging.. the rotor loosened up. I didn't realize how much noise I was making till I replaced it. I used the same pads I had on the OEM rotors.. the EBCs.... they were fine and hardly worn. I noticed a little less braking up initially but EBC recommended a break in period of a few hundred miles. No panic stops to set the brakes... etc... Now everything is back to normal.. great braking and no squealing and no clanking... just dealing with new issues with the smartire system I just installed..

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ARGH!! as of tonite - both pairs of front pads and the rear rotor are on 'Backorder' from BikeBandit.com

So much for paying extra for the 'express' shipping...

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The HH pads do not wear out rotors! I used EBC HH pads on the rear most of the miles on my bike, the rear rotor was still just fine at 120,000 miles.

If EBC has not started supplying the FA407HH pads instead of the FA246HH for the front, you may not like them. The FA246 pads do not have the anti-rattle springs, and the pads rattle incessantly over rough surfaces when the brakes are not applied. They say that the FA407HH pads will replace the FA246HH when stock runs out.
Are you guys psychic? I'm cruising around the site trying to ignore the fact that I should be replacing the front brake pads with the EBCs that just arrived. (I did the EBC rear pads about 2 weeks ago, but forgot that I need 2 sets for the front and only ordered one, so I've been waiting for the new order to come in.) After reading David's post I looked in the shipping box: the fronts are still part number FA246HH. I'm gonna put them in, but if they rattle I'll get the FA407HH as soon as they come out. OK, no more lollygagging, on to the bike!

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Zotter I wish I knew you were doing a tech session this weekend. I already made plans to help a friend side his house; then it's off to Colorado for a train ride through the Royal Gorge.

I'm always looking to turn wrenches. Hey Friend give me a holler next time. I'm only 2 hours and 15 minutes from your place. Have fun, Tom
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I have always used the CRC Moly Brake Lubrication on the back of the pads as well as where the pins slide through. I have stock BMW everything (Brembo Calipers). I have over 6000 miles without a peep on front an rear.

If you ride in the rain or wash your wheels alot, the lubrication may deteriorate to where it 'dries out'. I hand clean my wheels without a hose touching them.

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WhooHooo!

BikeBandit.com says all my parts should be here this Friday! Then we'll see, boy-howdy, then we'll see! Or hear that is - better yet, NOT hear!

When folks say some of this kit can be a tad titchy to find, they ain't kid'n.

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