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post #1 of 45 Old Dec 23rd, 2014, 7:03 pm Thread Starter
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How cold do you ride?

For my 17 mile commute to work it was 20 F yesterday morning.

The biggest problem was my hands. I wear leather gauntlet gloves with a thin liner glove inside those, but it was pretty rough.

I think I'll keep it above 25 from now on.
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Re: How cold do you ride?

I was riding real cold today. I went out to Rancho Cucamonga and got a big screw in my tire, which then began to leak.
I put a patch into it, so I ran real cold coming back, 75 miles and I tried to keep it under 60, then 70, but still I got up to near 80, which is my low cold point, usually.
But once I get two new tires, I will be hot again, 90 or 100 ...

Oh! You mean weather wise. Yeah, I suppose it only got up to 75 today, where are you?
Paso Robles last year, Sunday morning, 32 degrees, but only for a few hours.
I suppose 27 or so, I think I had that in Colorado, with snow and ice, but again, only on the high passes.
At this time of year I only ride California, and then only parts, or Mexico.
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Eastern-ish PA. We go below zero, but give me 30 and I'm in the saddle.
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We usually ride if it gets down to mid 20s. Here in South Carolina we just do not have that much bitter cold weather for any extended time. We ride year round. Talking about your hands get a pair of heated gloves and you should be good to go. Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas! If you are not a Christian at least enjoy the spirit of Christmas by giving and extending a hand to those less blessed than we are.
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Re: How cold do you ride?

I ride to work everyday regardless of the temperature. As long as there is not more that 4 or 5 inches of snow on the roads I'm riding. I'd rather ride on ice than deep snow.

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Eastern-ish PA. We go below zero, but give me 30 and I'm in the saddle.
Here in NE Pa it has been darn cold for riding. Yesterday the sun came out in the afternoon and the news reported that we finally broke the 15 consecutive day streak of NO sun, previously the last sun was Dec 7. Been mostly below freezing that entire time, ground is well frozen but a lot of the snow is gone. Today got up in the 40's with rain and the top surface turned a muddy mess including the roads with snow melt off. Ride your bike and it will get well brined from the road treatments.


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Re: How cold do you ride?

I have full electrics, so cold doesn't bother me; I can ride well below freezing, and be perfectly comfortable. I do try to avoid ice.

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I rode at 18 degs a few days ago, it was not too bad, but the tips of my fingers were very cold after an hour.
Any more riding long distance at those temps will require heated gloves.

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post #10 of 45 Old Dec 24th, 2014, 12:44 am
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Re: How cold do you ride?

Can't say I ride all those very low temps but just rode my 2009 LT from
Cincinnati to Minneapolis last week - 800 miles (12 hours in the saddle) with the
temps at 40F most of the entire trip.

A few observations:

1. Aerostich Roadcrafter offers body protection but not thermal protection.

2. Gerbing Jacket works but needed to be on high at all times and unless it is
tight everywhere you need to press if against your body to get the heat to flow.
Poor heat on the underarms and upper back. Having a Bakup backrest was able
to lean back and pour the heat on the lower back. Could not have made the trip
without the heated jacket - period. Also the Gerbing Powerlet connectors - I have two
are flaky and I had to use Gorilla Tape to get the wires in the right positions so
they would transmit power. Will be looking into the Powerlet Jacket with wireless
remote controls on the thermostats. Understand this jacket uses infrared to heat
and not the same principal as the Gerbings.

3. Heated seat set on low

4. Heated handle bars on high most of the time

5. Schuberth helmet (C2) offered good protection

6. Should have worn some sort of neck scarf

7. Mist and occasional rain in most of Wisconsin required looking over the
windshield 100% of the time

8. What made the trip bearable was cruise, my new Garmin 590LM, very low gas
prices and running on Bridgestones!

9. Oh yea pulling a loaded Unigo gave me a little more confidence on a few of the
roads were to getting a little slippery at the low temperatures.

Riding below 32 at night would be a no no for me since two wheels and ice do not mix!!

Just my 2 cents!!

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Here in NE Pa it has been darn cold for riding. Yesterday the sun came out in the afternoon and the news reported that we finally broke the 15 consecutive day streak of NO sun, previously the last sun was Dec 7. Been mostly below freezing that entire time, ground is well frozen but a lot of the snow is gone. Today got up in the 40's with rain and the top surface turned a muddy mess including the roads with snow melt off. Ride your bike and it will get well brined from the road treatments.
+ 1 on all the above !

The problem is snow melt on mountain roads changing to Black Ice overnight. Makes for not so pleasant unexpected surprises.

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When I was working, I had a 15 mile commute on my LT. When temperatures went below 20, I wore one of these (Schampa SkullGaiter | 130-105 | J&P Cycles). I usually only had to wear it in the morning as the temperature got at least in the upper 20's in the afternoon. I always wore a heated jacket and gloves in temperatures below 40. You need to invest in these and your ride will be a pleasure! I am attaching a picture showing the location of the Gerbing clothing temperature controller I installed. In ten years of owning the RT, I had to replace it one time. I had the controller lead coming out in front of the seat. In the summer time, I just tucked it under the seat.
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That's really a nice clean install on the controller Mike, well done!

I'm perfectly comfortable down to 40 all day with just the seat and grips going, but will ride to work, errands and whatnot down to about 28 with electric vest. As long as the roads are clear I'm usually good to go!

The hardest part when it's real cold is finding a way to clean the crud from the bike.

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Get some kind of Balaclava, I got lucky one year and found one at Walmart for $1 because it was spring and they we closing out winter stuff. It has been a life saver. Keeps the cold off your neck.
I also have a set of these insulated coverall's. CARHARTT Insulated Coveralls, Chest 34In., Brown - G0096135 at Zoro
I know that they are not "Motorcycle" coverall's but they work really good. I sprayed them with some waterproofer and I have no issues. Extra layers are also your friend.

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I use snowmobile gear

Gloves, Jacket. and Helmet

Oh and the biggy is I switch to three wheels, (and I can engage my sidecar wheel for 2WD)
I also have some Hippo hands on the handle bars and I wear a lap rob
handle bars heated...
-13F is my rec.. no extra clothes, jeans and tshirt, As I would be sweating....
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.How cold do you ride?
I think the coldest I've seen was 3 degrees.

cold doesn't effect my decision to ride. pouring down rain or snow, I take the jeep.

My motto is, If I can make it to work dry, I ride. (I don't mind riding home in the rain)

snow?
I try to avoid it.

I got caught in a small snow covering a few years ago..... 24 mile ride home... not fun.

for gear in extreme cold I wear Gerbings microwire gloves, BMW vest and Kilimanjaro jacket and over pants. works very well.

seat heat is nice too.
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Sova,

I like the Ural....

I tool around on a little 750 Kawasaki / Velorex from time to time...

fair weather only....
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I tend to ride down to 32 (without accounting for wind chill). But i get nervous about ice here in the northeast so I don't do it very often, and once the salt is out, I'm done. Having said that, on the K1200LT I only use an over jacket and thin overpants, and with the seat and grip heaters coupled with the excellent wind protection, I'm not cold. Oh and I do wear a neck gaiter though coz it does get cold up there! And my full face helmet shield is closed of course...

I have ridden my VTX1800R at 25 degrees (not accounting for wind chill) with my wife on the back, and on that bike, which has a lot less wind protection (read "way less"...), we had the quilted liners installed in our jackets and pants, along with gaiters. We were barely ok, in fact my wife was complaining (fun right?!!). Thankfully I had tried to make a BMW out of that bike and just prior to that ride I had installed seat and grip heaters (big-ish task just in case you're wondering). So we cranked them up, and it was interesting to feel the blood in my legs getting warmed and starting to circulate to other very cold parts of my body - it was a wierd, yet highly satisfying, feeling! Once these were all on we were perfectly warm, and i felt I could ride in colder conditions (and my wife stopped complaining and started commenting how good it was, although she kept saying "how will you see any ice in the dark?" - sometimes you just have to trust in the universe..!!). Having said all that, I would still not choose to ride that bike when it's that cold - I felt the like Michelin Man with all that gear on!

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I ride to work everyday regardless of the temperature.
...but single digits are no fun, even with electrics...
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Are you guys serious? Riding in snow, ice, very low temps? I think the coldest I've ridden is maybe 60 degrees. And I was pushing it at the temp, lol. No thanks, I'll drive a car in the cold and leave riding the bikes at min. 65 or so. I guess I'm just a wimp.

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I have a 17 mile one way ride to work. As long as the roads are clear I'm riding! 18 degrees is my low but many days in the 20s. I have a Gerbing jacket liner and Gerbing gloves. That is what makes it possible for me. Neck protection is a must! I also have the Firstgear HT insulated over pants.

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I've ridden in 20 degree F temperatures.

Just takes a while to get all bundled up and then on the other end to get unbundled.

No fun riding on a slick surface though. Makes me sweat keeping puckered up that tightly.

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Last year I rode for 1.5hrs at 14 degrees F. I don't ride if I think there is a chance that I will encounter snow or ice on the roads, but cold isn't an issue with some warm gear.

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With full electric gear, temperature is not an issue.

I will ride as long as there is no snow or Dec 15 whichever comes first.
Our Provincial law requires winter tires from Dec 15 to March 15 on all vehicles.

Too bad... The last week has been so warm that 90% of the snow has melted but we still cannot ride...

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You cold weather guys are all nuts, below 55 is to cold for me. The older I get the more narrow my temp. parameters get. Seven years ago the wife and I did a 40 degree three hour ride. We were bundled almost to the point of discomfort. With my winter gloves made the throttle feel weird and the feet just wouldn't stay warm. The wife hung in there but I could tell this was not her idea of fun. Yes we know they make heated gear. We quickly realized that the we got the bike for pleasure riding not necessity and we want to be comfortable and totally enjoy the experience so we rarely ride above 80 or below 55. We might have to move to San Diego. So whatever floats your boat.
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I will ride as long as there is no snow or Dec 15 whichever comes first.
Our Provincial law requires winter tires from Dec 15 to March 15 on all vehicles.

Too bad... The last week has been so warm that 90% of the snow has melted but we still cannot ride...
I put the Continental TKC 80 Mud & Snow rated tires on my LT in the winter. The M & S rating is on the sidewall. I don't know if that tire combination would let you ride all winter or not. I also screw in ice studs in the tires.
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I put the Continental TKC 80 Mud & Snow rated tires on my LT in the winter. The M & S rating is on the sidewall. I don't know if that tire combination would let you ride all winter or not. I also screw in ice studs in the tires.
Very interesting Dave, how well do these handle the weight?
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Very interesting Dave, how well do these handle the weight?
The front tire is the correct weight rating for a LT but the rear is a little underrated. It rides fine around town & I installed an adjustable steering damper that made it stable on the hwy. I have two LT's so I only ride the one with the studded tires to work when the roads might be icy or have snow on them. Motorcycles are just basic transportation for me regardless of the weather.

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Right after I posted I Googled the tires and found your original post about them. I think if I still lived in Montana I would buy another set of wheels and try this setup. However here the snowy roads don't last that long and for the few weeks it's here I can spend the money on gas for my cage.

Still very interesting.
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The front tire is the correct weight rating for a LT but the rear is a little underrated. It rides fine around town & I installed an adjustable steering damper that made it stable on the hwy. I have two LT's so I only ride the one with the studded tires to work when the roads might be icy or have snow on them. Motorcycles are just basic transportation for me regardless of the weather.
Holy CRAP! I thought you were screwing with us. Studded snow tires on an LT You have a big set to ride (of tires of course ) an LT around in the snow even with studded snow tires. A KLR 650, I would be tempted.
I just do not get enough snow around here to even try it, for the 3 days a year it snows, I just park the bike.
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I have a 19-mile commute in NE Florida and I normally ride year-round. It gets down to the mid- to-high teens in the winter at times.

This year I haven't been doing much riding. Too sick, low energy. I have trouble working on the bikes for more that two to three hours a day, and I would be afraid to use the big girl given the way I feel, even if she ran.

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Up here in Washington state we just did our New Years Day run. It was 19 degrees when we left Olympia, it did warm up a lot and got to about 36 degrees. I was very thankful for my First Gear one piece thermal suit, only my toes got cold. Too bad the LT does not have feet warmers like the 1800 GW does.

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Back when Atlanta had their snowpocalypse I went out a few days after the snow had melted. Unfortunately I ended up at an intersection with a lot of shade cover and ice still on the road. It was too late to avoid it; I found a six inch section of black top and put the tires right down that stretch. I came to a stop and put both feet down on ice

I was so scared, didn't look left or right. I feared if I would have sneezed I would have went down. Managed to make it back in one piece, thank goodness.


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Search on the word "muff" and you will find a thread where I bought a pair of handlebar muffs from Cabelas and modified one of them to work on the LT. You will be riding with warm hands at any temp the lower 48 can throw your way. 100% waterproof too. Summer gloves for abrasion protection with h
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The OP was having trouble with his hands. Hippo Hands are a great thing. I have some original ones but the new ones are better as they fit each bike they are designed for. Makes a HUGE difference.
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I ride below freezing but in my area it is generally damp in the winter and it scares me off the roads. 34*F yesterday and went down to Fife for Katsu don. Just happened to be the best batch I have ever had. Well worth the Seattle traffic.

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Search on the word "muff" and you will find a thread where I bought a pair of handlebar muffs from Cabelas and modified one of them to work on the LT. You will be riding with warm hands at any temp the lower 48 can throw your way. 100% waterproof too. Summer gloves for abrasion protection with h
I don't know what search engine you are using but when I searched "muff" I got something entirely different than you. Not that I'm complaining but I'm not sure I would want to mount what I was looking at on my bike????????????
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I don't know what search engine you are using but when I searched "muff" I got something entirely different than you. Not that I'm complaining but I'm not sure I would want to mount what I was looking at on my bike????????????
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Funn thing. I too googled muff when I first had the idea. Not saying it wasn't interesting but not what ivwas looking for. It seems that theHANDLEBAR MUFF thingeys were less than $30 at Cabelas. I had to stitch in a 6" peice of sailcloth on the left side in order to have room to operate the radio. With the handlebar warmers on low my fingers never go cold. Or wet. Or even damp. At any temperature. Loren
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Went to Monument Valley and rode between 38F - 60F for several hours with summer gloves (silk ski glove liners don't help much). Recently got some heavier winter gloves which I'm happy about since I'm on my bike this week bc car is in the shop. Yesterday was 35F for my (short) morning commute. Wore running tights under my pants, Olympia Air Glide pants and jacket with liners, winter gloves, heated seat and grips. Very comfy.

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We are WIMPS!

We have electrics which keep us warm at very cold temps!!

Yesterday on the way to the Dr. office (0800 hrs., in the cage with heated seat on!! ) we followed a person on a scooter, riding 40 mph at 3! Yep THREE degrees!! When I turned after about 2 miles he was still going!! Like I said we are WIMPS!!

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No low threshold. Heated grips, heated seat, heated vest, heated gloves, layered clothing, barn door sized windscreen, and a third wheel should it get a little messy on the road.

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It was 9 degrees this morning & my Gerbing gloves worked just fine. 18 miles one way at speeds up to 75 mph & I couldn't tell the difference from earlier in the week when it was in the 40's.

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Eastern-ish PA. We go below zero, but give me 30 and I'm in the saddle.
Did you misplace the HEATED GRIP switch.
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Did you misplace the HEATED GRIP switch.
As the OP, I wasn't really looking for solutions for lowering my riding temperature. It was kinda like a poll I had in mind.

But anyway, with my current equipment, which includes non-insulated gloves and denim pants, which are not equipment, 20 was too cold for me, but 28 wasn't bad.
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