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post #1 of 16 Old Dec 15th, 2014, 2:23 pm Thread Starter
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2002 K1200LT 107k Miles

Hello everyone. I am new on here but have been reading a lot of topics and lurking over the past few weeks. I am looking at purchasing a 2002 K1200LT from a family member who has owned the bike for ~4 years, this bike was originally from Virginia but is now in Ohio. The only major things he has done is have the front forks rebuilt and the brakes blead out. I have not personally seen the machine yet but will be looking at it over the holidays. I have also visited my local dealer here to inquire their thoughts about this particular model and they had mostly good things to say about it. He even mentioned that he has one customer that owns three with over 300k miles on each of them. I think I can get the bike for around $2500. My main driving would be to and from work at 100 miles round trip per day. Would this be a good price and does this machine have a lot of life left, if the proper maintenance has been done? Also, when I look at it, is there a fairly easy tell-tale method to see if the FD is on its way out?

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Re: 2002 K1200LT 107k Miles

I have a 2002 LT and love it. The FD issue is pretty much a shot in the dark and if I understand it only about 4% fail so that means you have a 96% chance you will be fine. Good Luck with your decision and keep us posted.
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Buying from family member could be a problem unless you go in assuming something will need fixing and you are a capable wrench or have lots of disposable income to get it fixed. Just my 2 cents
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Buying a used piece of machinery from anyone Could be a problem. The price on that bike is about $4000.00 less than they are going for around here. I'd buy knowing that I may need to spend a bit more to get it in the shape I want. 4 grand will go quite a way if you do your own work.

If you don't do your own wrenching, have someone very familiar with these bikes look it over for you first.

The labor rates at Bring More Wallet are murder and you don't want to end up with hard feelings with family over it.
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I agree that buying from a family member can be tough, but what I am getting in to is unknown and I would never go back after them for it. It is my risk, lol. I have bought many items from family members and some have been good and some have not. For $2500, I think it would be decent deal. I know I may have to do the final drive. The family member is mechanically inclined as am I. I do all the work on my vehicles except for tire changes and alignments so that should not be an issue. I was more concerned with the bike rather than the situation, lol. Keep the comments coming tho.
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In that case what's holding you back? For $2500 I'd buy it and fly out to pick it up if I didn't already have one!
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Where are you Ohio? I live up near Cleveland. I might be able to help depending on where you are.

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$2500? buy it before I get it for spare parts for mine.
Seriously. If it starts and moves under its own power, that's a heck of a deal for a heck of a bike. If it blows up in a year, you got your money out of it, and you can decide if you want another or something totally different. But either way, you will spend a LOT more on its replacement, you won't get another deal like that.

And that's IF it blows up in a year. Even if it pops the FD in a week and you drop full price on a new one, you will STILL have a heck of a bike for a great price.
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Re: 2002 K1200LT 107k Miles

Final drives are easy to rebuild properly so don't let that scare you away. For $2500 It would be good for parts as well but even better if you get to drive it another 100 K!!
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Since I don't see on the repair/maintenance list that the brake lines were replaced I would advise caution. The original rubber lines last about 8-10 years and then tend to develop cracks and leak. Spiegler makes a replacement kit for around $240. You appear capable to perform the labor so you should keep the cost down.
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+1 on jzeiler's reply. Buy, ride it, learn it.

If you're afraid of wrenching, then don't buy any motorcycle period.

I've an '03 with 103K miles on it.

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Where are you Ohio? I live up near Cleveland. I might be able to help depending on where you are.
I actually live in Michigan but the bike is located west of Akron, I76/I71 area. Its not for sale except to me at this point. I will be looking at it in the next couple of weeks and I will post some pics and more info as I get it.

I will most likely pick it up as it seems to be a good deal in my head.
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Since I don't see on the repair/maintenance list that the brake lines were replaced I would advise caution. The original rubber lines last about 8-10 years and then tend to develop cracks and leak. Spiegler makes a replacement kit for around $240. You appear capable to perform the labor so you should keep the cost down.
Other than that I'd say carry on!
All I know about the brakes is that they needed to be blead. I am not sure if any of the lines were replaced so I will inquire when I look at it.

Labor is not an issue, I can pretty much rebuild vehicles with my eyes closed. I own 5 street legal vehicles and 3 quads and do all my own work. I am almost 40 and have been rebuilding cars since I was 12. I have not ridden a street bike in a long time and have always loved the LT since I seen one a few years back.
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I think this is a no brainer for that price. If you are mechanically incline doing the normal maintenance and things that can break over time should not be a problem for you. The FD would not be a big deal assuming it needs to be replaced at some time. With 107k on it and if it is the original FD then it has proved that it is not one of those that tend to fail so you may not even have any FD failure for the next 40 to 50k miles or more. If you do then the fix is pretty easy and you get a lot of info from this forum. Well maintained the LT can go a long way and it could do another 100k with no major problem. It would be good to know what has been replaced and done so far on this bike though. For example have the shocks been replaced already? If not they will need to be soon. The brake lines that tend to break is one thing to check indeed and replace if necessary. The only big thing I can think could happen on a well maintained LT of that mileage is a slave cylinder leaking and eventually contaminating and destroying the clutch which is pretty labor intensive to replace. One preventing thing to do is drill a drain hole or weep hole. Here is an great video about this process. http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/k1200lt/...ing-video.html

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Well. The biggest thing, at least one of them is getting experience removing the bodywork. Once you do it, its not bad.Really most things on the LT are not bad to work on.

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The second biggest dollar item I can think of that would be a possible culprit is the clutch, but that is going to depend on how it was ridden. To have it done is around $1,200 - $1,500 I think, but only a few hundred bucks in parts (i.e. a lot of labor). I would think that if the FD was assembled wrong (cause of the FD failures on these bikes) then it would have given out long ago - the FD would be the least of my concerns.

Now for the first biggest dollar item, the ABS. It's probably fine, just make sure when you test ride her that the lights stop flashing after you roll away. That model has the servo assist ABS pump and it doesn't have much braking potential if the pump is out, and there is nobody able to fix the unit so you're stuck looking for a used one with no guarantee of function or forking over $2,500 for a new one at Bring More Wallet (a la Buff8stuff). Alternately I think you can bypass but there is a process involved with that of which I am unfamiliar.

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