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post #1 of 17 Old Dec 10th, 2014, 4:42 pm Thread Starter
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Best Nav....

I am starting to shop for a new GPS Nav system for my K bike. The one that came with it is the original from 2002 and is no longer supported. What type of "fixed mount" nav system is your favorite? I plan to ride the hide off my bike in the spring and want to be ready to hit the road AND know where I'm going.

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post #2 of 17 Old Dec 10th, 2014, 4:50 pm
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I'll just add my 1+++.

It's just the best there is for bikes. Mine has been on a GL1800, KLR-685 and the K1200LT. Works all the time.

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Starting to get used to the Garmin 590LM installed on the GT.... would have gotten another Nuvi 500/550 if they were still available.
Nice thing about the 590LM is having the music on the MicroSD card for playback... works a treat when no other music source, like we have on the LT.
Much bigger screen on the 590 which is nice, but its not that contrasty to look at.

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post #6 of 17 Old Dec 11th, 2014, 7:09 am Thread Starter
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Ok, I'll start my hunt for one. Where did you guys mount yours? Did you go back with original mount above cluster, middle windscreen?
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Well. I have the zumo 550 with the XM 30 satallite antenna. I really like it. Its got a MP3 player also. My friends got a 665. The only differance is the 665 has weather/traffic. I think my 550 is just as good if you don't want weather.

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Re: Best Nav....

I checked Amazon last night on the Garmin 660/665 and their reviews, as I too, am not that happy anymore with my Nav III system (out of date/can't be updated and therefore wasn't much help finding POIs on road trips). From what I recall, there were a bunch of write-ups that weren't too kind about the satellite radio antenna and reception, as well as issues with power supply and the MP3 player song selection.

I hope this isn't considered hi-jacking rugguys's thread, but, from you guys that are recommending the Garmin units, where/how did you mount them (both the unit and it's satellite antenna); how is it powered (by battery or hardwired); and how secure is it from a theft standpoint in comparison to the stock GPS on an LT?

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Well, if money was no issue for me, I would do as others have said and get the Garmin 660, however, ANY GPS will work. I have a Garmin 275T ad love it. I got it from a garage sale for $10 with box and everything. It work great and I love it.
As for a mount, this is what I did
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/k1200lt/...gps-mount.html

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post #11 of 17 Old Dec 11th, 2014, 5:34 pm
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I have not seen others use this GPS mount and it works perfectly for me on all my bikes that require a third party mount. Stable and secure at high speeds and on bumpy roads. Allows me to easily move my GPS from bike to bike, and does not leave a particularly unsightly mount behind when not installed.

This is the handlebar clamp ball: Model: RAM-B-367U SKU: RAMB367

I use a short arm on three of my bikes, but there is a double socket arm if you need it: Model: RAP-B-200-12U SKU: RAPB200-12.

This is the rectangular plate with ball: RAM Mount Rectangular AMPS Plate B-Ball RAM-B-347U.

I have had great luck with gpscity.com. Good Luck!

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post #12 of 17 Old Dec 12th, 2014, 12:00 am
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Ram mount. I use a Handel bar mount with the ball end + clamp extension to a ball socket on the GPS mount. I use this set up on my snowmobile as well.
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Everyone is talking about the Zumo 660. I have the Nav IV which is the BMW badged version of the 660.

It is a beautiful GPS (if you can get it at the right price.) It has directed us to where we want to go, using routes that were created. However there are certain limitations to it now:

It is now considered by Garmin as "old" and no longer receives software updates.
The recent maps are too large for the storage available. Some will have to be placed on an SD Card.
When planning & using BaseCamp the 660 ignores the "Do not announce" instruction on shaping points. You have to use the junction method (which has sporadic failures.)

If I were in the market for a GPS right now I would be looking at the Zumo 590 or the Navigator V. These have the latest gizmos & (hopefully) work as well as the 660/Nav IV.

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I have my GPS mounted over the dashboard on an official support. The central position has meant I use it for speed control, and it is perfect for a quick look for route / speed etc.

Just my 2p worth.

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Re: Best Nav....

I have a Zumo 550 that I've owned for 8 years now. Never let me down and it has nice rubber buttons on the left side built into it. Also has touch screen. Lift a small lever on the mount and the unit comes right off with no wires attached. The shape of the unit seems to fit the lines of the LT perfect and the factory cup holder doesn't hit the GPS when it's deployed. It's mounted using the factory GPS mount on the center radio unit.

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Re: Best Nav....

For those still interested, the Illinois BMW club guy posted a video on the high-end Garmin GPS unit. It's pretty long, but informative....

http://www.illinoisbmwriders.com/ser...ps-user-review


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My 2 cents...

I had a Garmin 665 mounted on my 2012 GS. It worked in the 2014 WRT mount but there were some things that would not function so I "upgraded" to the Nav V. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't. I'd live with the short comings of the 665 in the BMW factory mount and change the mount to the 665 mount and wire accordingly. Both, if you have the radio, will give you Sirius/XM music.

Issues:
NAV V doesn't do 1/2 the stuff it'll do on the GS. Music won't play off the GPS Memory card and "My Motorcycle" doesn't even show.

NAV 5 weather is dependent on having a Cell Signal. 665 used an XM subscription and will work anywhere. Downside was having to mount the antenna.

The 665 has specific directions to mount the antenna puck a certain distance from the GPS device. If you don't it interferes with the XM signal reception. I had the GPS mounted to a bar over the dash in the center with the puck on a RAM bar mount with the long (6") arm to keep it as far as I could from the GPS. Until I went to the long arm I would have occasional interference.

Not sure that this isn't what the issue is with the factory install of the puck. It's right behind the GPS under the dash. Within less than 6".

Anyway, like I said I'd get the 665 over the Motorrad GPS V any day.

The new Garmin 590 has the same issue with the weather overlay... gotta have a cell signal.

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Are any of these things visible with the sun pounding down on them?

That's my only objection to my old Garmin in a $25 water-resistant motorcycle mount. I muttered something about that to a friend with a high-end "motorcycle-intended" GPS, and he assured me he can't see his in direct sun, either. Sad, as I have a very old Garmin which is entirely readable in direct sunlight, older LCD displays WERE usable in sun.
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