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post #1 of 25 Old Dec 1st, 2014, 8:42 am Thread Starter
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Request GS911 Reset in Florida Panhandle (Pensacola Area)

If any forum members are within 300-400 miles of Pensacola Florida, and are willing to conduct a GS911 reset on a 2000LT, I'd be happy to buy your lunch for the service. I have an ABS fault indication that the previous owner swears only requires a reset (PO had the ABS fault reset twice in his 13 years of ownership), but the Pensacola dealership says the issue is a relay. I'd rather try a GS911 reset before letting the dealership tear into the ABS.

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If any forum members are within 300-400 miles of Pensacola Florida, and are willing to conduct a GS911 reset on a 2000LT, I'd be happy to buy your lunch for the service. I have an ABS fault indication that the previous owner swears only requires a reset (PO had the ABS fault reset twice in his 13 years of ownership), but the Pensacola dealership says the issue is a relay. I'd rather try a GS911 reset before letting the dealership tear into the ABS.

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Without wanting to be a spoilsport how come that previous owner can know the type of problem / needed repair action? Perhaps something you did not share? Fact that the bike has needed reset twice during last 99 years is no guarantee of it being case now. Some could say on the contrary. Guess that diagnosis of faulty relay has come up from some diagnostics?

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C-A-D, you're not a spoilsport, I didn't provide the info. When I purchased the LT in April, it had the ABS fault indication. The previous owner (PO) took it to his local dealership and the mototronic indicated a faulty ABS relay. I verified the fault with my local dealership. The PO elected not to have the relay repaired due to his previous successful ABS reset experience. According to the PO, the previous two times the ABS fault indicated was after the ABS was engaged - once in gravel and the other on slick roads. This instance happened during a rough railroad crossing at highway speeds. He was traveling during both instances and a local shop performed the fault reset. I do know a relay problem could exist, but I am hoping a simple GS911 reset will clear the code. If the GS911 does confirm the relay fault, I will have confidence in utilizing my dealership (other than the mototronic fault check, I have not used them to date). On the otherhand, if the GS911 reset clears the fault indication, I will have a conversation with the service manager.

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Just in case it ends up being the module, keep this in mind. Module Masters rebuilds them for $350 and gives a 5 year warranty. I had them do my RT (different module but they do yours also) and am very pleased with the results.

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If any forum members are within 300-400 miles of Pensacola Florida, and are willing to conduct a GS911 reset on a 2000LT, I'd be happy to buy your lunch for the service. I have an ABS fault indication that the previous owner swears only requires a reset (PO had the ABS fault reset twice in his 13 years of ownership), but the Pensacola dealership says the issue is a relay. I'd rather try a GS911 reset before letting the dealership tear into the ABS.

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Katnapinn, outstanding link and fairly up-to-date with folks offering their GS911 service. Thank you. I was amazed at the international flavor of the offers - Finland, Thailand. Wow!

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Rob, If you are inclined to dig in, you can reset the old girl with the info found here .

Not real hard to do.

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My hat is off to the individual that figured out the fault code reading and reset procedure - brilliant. However, the time it would take me to hacksaw, wire trace, and fight with disassembling a connector would be better spent riding to someone's place with a GS-911. Thanks for the thread though.

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Rob,

If you're not in a big hurry, I'll be in Pace, Florida for Christmas. Plan on arriving on December 21st and will be leaving December 27th. Let me know if you'd like me to bring my GS-911 along with me. We can either meet somewhere in between or I can give you directions to my son's house.

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The work / research done by BDC back in 2006 is amazing info!
I've done the ABS II reset procedure myself & it Does work (it helps if you're a little bit wrenchy).
I also left the pin 21 wire in place so I can clear the ABS if needed.

I exercise the ABS by hammering the brakes every now & then.

So far the fault hasn't reoccurred.

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Rob,

If you're not in a big hurry, I'll be in Pace, Florida for Christmas. Plan on arriving on December 21st and will be leaving December 27th. Let me know if you'd like me to bring my GS-911 along with me. We can either meet somewhere in between or I can give you directions to my son's house.

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Boerne, Texas
Bill,

Please and absolutely pack your GS-911. Pace, FL is a short 30 minute ride from Navarre. I'm more than happy to ride to your son's house. Send me a PM at [email protected] to coordinate details.

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Sent you a PM.

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A public thank you to Bill Edwards and his trusty GS-911. The GS-911 is an incredible diagnostic tool! To make a long story short, Bill with his GS-911 was able to do what TWO BMW dealerships could not or would not perform - reset the ABS fault. It's nice not having the blinking ABS lights. Now I'm debating on whether to have a conversation with the service manager. At the very least, I have lost confidence with the dealership and I will attempt future services and repairs.

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Glad I didn't go and make myself a horse's backside at the dealership. I am eating crow with my previous post. After nearly three weeks and 250 miles without an ABS failure indication, the fault reappeared while in stop-and-go traffic this morning. I am bummed! I hoped the GS-911 reset permanently corrected the fault. Decision time, let the dealer troubleshoot the failure or attempt another GS-911 reset. What to do?

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First off the GS-911 cannot "fix" a fault it can only reset the memory. It will give you a code as to what is causing the fault and once that is fixed and the unit reset, you will be good to go.

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Here's the problem: as a rule dealers will not reset ABS fault codes without repairing the cause. It's not that they can't, it's that they WON'T. Perceived liability problems I suppose. So if the fault is from somewhere inside the ABS unit itself, the only fix available from most dealerships is a replacement module. So what code did it set?


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The GS-911 confirmed what the dealer's Mototronic stated, "faulty relay". I had hoped the fault indication was a false positive once the static memory was cleared and the fault didn't immediately reappear. Not so lucky.

Since the dealer has to remove the Tupperware to replace the relay, I may have him perform the 24,000 service. This may hurt the wallet.

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An ABS relay is pretty small potatoes presuming it's outside the ABS unit, I don't know if it is or not. If it's inside the unit, see previous post.

Looks like you're in luck:
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.....the fault reappeared while in stop-and-go traffic this morning.
Let me see, stop and go traffic? I assume that the light went on while you were starting from a stop? Mine did the same thing and the dealer ended up replacing the abs unit. It was under warranty at the time. I assumed (at least with mine) that the light is coming on because as you let out the clutch, if you do not have the rpm's up, the battery voltage drops below a certain level and trips the light. Mine did this two times from a start at a traffic light. It also may not hurt to install a new battery.

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I assume that the light went on while you were starting from a stop? I assumed (at least with mine) that the light is coming on because as you let out the clutch, if you do not have the rpm's up, the battery voltage drops below a certain level and trips the light. Mine did this two times from a start at a traffic light. It also may not hurt to install a new battery.
You are correct, the ABS fault illuminated as I was departing from a red light, but I had been in stop-and-go traffic for the past quarter mile. However, I was wearing a heated Gerbing jacket and the seat and grip heating elements were also on, so your battery voltage theory is plausible. I replaced the battery in August, and the LT is my daily rider. I'm fairly certain the ABS relay kicked off the fault based on historical evidence, but I won't know until the Mototronic performs it's diagnostic black magic.

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"Just need to reset" and "it's a fuse" are the two most commonly seen examples of wishful thinking.

Both are indicators that something's actually wrong and needs to be fixed.

It's a bit like "shoot the messenger," isn't it?

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If you were in stop and go traffic long enough to kick the fans on along with the grips, seat, and a heated vest, I would think you likely just pulled more amps than your alternator was making at low RPMs. While the LT does have a very large alternator, everything has it's limits. The ABS unit could see low voltage as a bad relay, I suppose.


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There is a built'in logic in ABSII to run the plunger test every now and then (so the same one which happens during the initial take off putting the ABS-lights out). This happens when you take off from the red lights or other stop. This off course draw amps and in case of very bad battery / low RPMs / Low voltage could perhaps cause miss-spelled relay errors - perhaps?

More likely it should just cause "Low voltage" error which clears itself after next successful power-up with voltage high enough.

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I dropped the girl off at my local dealership for professional care. The Mototronic confirmed the ABS electrical relay was the issue. $139.76 for a new relay, two hours labor ($89 an hour labor rate) to replace relay, $4.40 for brake fluid, and one hour of labor to drain and refill brake system. $450.62 out the door with tax a week later.

I sure missed her while she was in the shop. Riding my 1999 Roadking was not as enjoyable. Unfortunately, a R1200GS caught my eye in the showroom. Spectacular bike! I wonder if my spousal unit would approve of one with the LT...probably not.

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Rob,

Glad you're fixed. Now you can ride with your mind at ease and no more annoying blinking red lights.

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