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post #1 of 10 Old Nov 23rd, 2014, 2:52 am Thread Starter
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I have owned a 2005 and 2008 LT in the past before moving to a 2013 K1600GT. I put about 13k on the bike before trading it in for a 2014RT. Don't let anyone fool you, the new RT is a awesome bike--flickable, powerful and high tech. It works well two up and truly is confidence inspiring.

I still had fond memories of my LT's. The excellent weather protection, solid feel and smooth engine made it the perfect bike. I loved the power of the 1600GT, but, it was a bit buzzy on the road and my passenger got a lot of helmet wind buffeting. The wind protection was good, not great. Not much character.

This weekend I bought a 2003 LT with 28k on the dial. A one owner bike well maintained. It was so nice to be back on the LT again. Lots of wind and weather protection, smooth operation and just a solid platform for two up. I don't miss the GT and now have a great long distance two up machine! The RT and LT make a nice combination.

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28K on an 03 is nothing. Good find. Those LT engines were smooooth but the GTL engine is smooooooth.

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Great move Scout70 - You're not the first to come back and definitely won't be the last.
Great to have back among the living!!

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28K on an 03 is nothing. Good find. Those LT engines were smooooth but the GTL engine is smooooooth.
Did you say the GTL engine is smooooth?
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28K on an 03 is nothing. Good find. Those LT engines were smooooth but the GTL engine is smooooooth.
I'm with scout. I found the 2013 GTL to be busier than my 2007 LT. I can't say it vibrated more, but it seemed to be a higher frequency and more annoying vibration.

Not that it was bad by motorcyle standards, but I just find my LT to be slightly better.

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The LT is the best 2-up bike ever made. Welcome back. I too came back to the LT this last year after a 10 year absence.
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I'm with scout. I found the 2013 GTL to be busier than my 2007 LT. I can't say it vibrated more, but it seemed to be a higher frequency and more annoying vibration.

Not that it was bad by motorcyle standards, but I just find my LT to be slightly better.
Very interesting. My LT had a buzz around 4K I didn't like. I had to speed up to 80 mph to smooth it out.

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My LT had a buzz from about 4300 to 4600 rpm. I would use that to know my revs without looking at the tach, and shift after the buzz ended.

As far as two up comfort, yes - initially the GTL had less wind protection than the LT. But set up with Aeroflow windshield, wings, and mini wings, the pillion is just as happy on the GTL. I think the wind protection is better on the GTL now than the LT. The LT is a heavier bike, and I'd agree that it is better set up for two up touring. I made the change to the GTL because the LT was very long in the tooth as far as performance and technology.

I can still recall when the K12 came out. If you sat it next to a K11, you'd say "Wow... What a leap!" Same for the K16 next to the K12 now. Plus, it's getting harder to get parts for the K12, and that entered into my decision (ABS pump on '01 and earlier are no longer available from BMW for instance).

As far as performance - no comparison; my LT would run circles around my brother and his friends on their V-twins - my GTL leaves my LT in the dust. DIY Maintenance - piece of cake on the GTL; much easier to work on than the LT; 12K maintenance literally takes an hour.

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Very interesting. My LT had a buzz around 4K I didn't like. I had to speed up to 80 mph to smooth it out.
I hate when that happens!

I am lucky as my LT has no really objectionable rev ranges vibration-wise and also has a very subdued "LT whine" or maybe all of my years of running chain saws has deafened me sufficiently in that frequency. :-)

The GTL I rented in Europe also had an annoying buzz range at about 5 grand. I suspect these things are unit specific.

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Very interesting. My LT had a buzz around 4K I didn't like. I had to speed up to 80 mph to smooth it out.
Yea, that's what I tell my wife to for why I want to go 80

In all seriousness though, I have found that 80 indicated is about the perfect speed for my LT, smooth as silk and still slow enough that the windshield and fairing are keeping things modestly quiet and calm.

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