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Question Why would anyone buy an LT over a GOLDWING?!

Thirty years of tradition can't be wrong, can it? It's cheaper than the LT. And has gawbs of torque. The GoldWing is arguably more reliable, with a HUGE dealer network. A bazillion aftermarket companies providing accessories which gives the owner way more options than the LT, while costing far less for those accessories. Pulls a trailer far easier whilst 2-UP touring. A better intercom. MP3 integration is a snap. The list goes on, and on, and on...


So again I ask the question, "Why would anyone buy an LT over a GOLDWING?!".


Oh, I know the answer.


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Had one for 3 months before my L.T. Couldn't get comfortable no matter how much money I spent on it. Wind blows it all over the road, intercom & CB are useless at highway speeds because of wind noise. The first sign of a drizzle & your wet. Low end power it does have & that's what sold it after a test ride, but after I got over that I kept finding more reasons I didn't like it.
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Okay, I'm not loaded with money here, so this is my opinion. I'm looking at USED bikes, the LT and teh Wing, as well as the Yam Royal str Venture. The venture is cruiser style, which means it has to be cleaned and shined a lot. And has cruiser riding style, a little slower. I'm coming from a Vstrom, so I am into a sporting ride.

The LT has much lower resale, and many more available on the market, be it ebay, dealers, etc. I can afford and find an LT much easier than a wing. The wing has better dealer coverage. But IMO, most of the used wings have too much crap added to them that I don;t want. I'm not into that chrome and light show thing so that's unimportant. I'd even pass on the radio/CD if I could and opt for a nice gPS instead.

SO I'll probably end up on an LT. It all comes down to personal; preference and this is an LT forum,so you;ll probably get lots of reasons to own an LT over a wing.

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SO I'll probably end up on an LT. It all comes down to personal; preference and this is an LT forum,so you;ll probably get lots of reasons to own an LT over a wing.
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Actually I think the GW rides pretty well, great support groups like our k1200 group. .....But you were ugly, but hey your parents loved you anyways!
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Oh, I know the answer.
I don't have a clue as to why you bought one, but if you can guess the main reason I bought one over the GW, I'll buy you a Guiness at CCR.

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Not the reason I bought one but maybe others will

A couple of weeks ago I was at the gas station filling up and a 20 year old blonde comes walking out of the store back to her car. She looks at the bike and then looks at me and says " That's a Bitch'n Ride!" and then gets in her car.

I'm old but I think that was a compliment

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I don't have a clue as to why you bought one, but if you can guess the main reason I bought one over the GW, I'll buy you a Guiness at CCR.
IIRC...you liked the LT's "personality". Most fat chicks have LOTS of it.
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Thirty years of tradition can't be wrong, can it?
I agree. That would've been my choice if I could afford one...
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It's cheaper than the LT
Really ? Here in France it's the opposite.
GW retails for (take a seat) $33k while LT retails for ONLY $27k...

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LT over GW?

Any given day I see upto a dozen Wingers rolling down the main drag.

So far as I know - I'm the only LT pilot in the county.

No, I'm not a conformist.

Plus - after parking my ass on one of each - the LT and I bonded. There's soul there - something to relate with. The GW was like a rolling sofa - one in every living room, nothing special.

Hey, that's all worth about 2cents, eh?

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The main reason is a four letter word, Gail.

Gail liked the price better (cheaper than the GW at the time). Gail liked the looks better. Gail liked the ride better. Gail's feet actually reached the pegs......

Two, hour long test rides and she tells me she doesn't like the GW; says it's not comfortable. What???? Finally tells me her feet don't reach the pegs. Seems she's not nearly as wide as the butts the seat was designed for, and her legs were swingin' in the breeze. Honda sales guy showes me the $270 adjustable floorboard solution, but we say no, not today, and go look at the LT. Fifteen minutes into the LT test ride and I knew we had found the right bike.

Funny part is, I put a Corbin on the LT and had to buy peg risers anyway.

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If you ever spend time around a GW group you will find out that they think the GW is the only bike made & if you don't ride one you are stupid. I don't like being around that kind of group, I like all motorcycles & don't ride one to fit into a group. When I had my Venture they where not that way & so for I don't feel the BMW group is that way. The GW group is more one sided than any Harley group I have been around.
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......So again I ask the question, "Why would anyone buy an LT over a GOLDWING?!"......
So you don't have to go to those monthly GWRRA meetings where they try to sell you silk jackets, lecture you about safety (while the majority that even ride wear open face helmets), and try to strongarm you into donating blood!

I went to the bathroom after one meeting, wherein I heard a conversation between two of the "owners" that they didn't go on any of the weekly dinner rides because they rode "too far" (typically 70-100 miles round trip), that they really didn't like to ride for more than twenty minutes at a time!

I thought I'd stumbled into a cruiser club! Check that, even cruiser riders will often ride farther than THAT for a beer!

We don't attend those meetings anymore. At the last one we attended, a lady that appeared to be about ninety years old collapsed, and EMS was called!

Stupid Goldwing still stops at every Dairy Queen though, if I don't watch it like a hawk!

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Thirty years of tradition can't be wrong, can it? It's cheaper than the LT. And has gawbs of torque. The GoldWing is arguably more reliable, with a HUGE dealer network. A bazillion aftermarket companies providing accessories which gives the owner way more options than the LT, while costing far less for those accessories. Pulls a trailer far easier whilst 2-UP touring. A better intercom. MP3 integration is a snap. The list goes on, and on, and on...


So again I ask the question, "Why would anyone buy an LT over a GOLDWING?!".


Oh, I know the answer.


Do you?

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yea but the owner didn't like it and is selling it, must be something wrong with it

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I brought home my 2000 LT for way less cash than a similarly equipped Wing. There never was any comparison on looks or suspension.

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5) Did I mentions that Cindy loves it and will ride with me, she hated the Goldwing. Too much wind and rain.
6) I would like more HP and Torque but what would I do with it, if I was riding a Goldwing.
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Bought my previously owned '04 LT from a Honda dealer. And they did have some great deals on the Wings. The LT fit much better (the handlebars on the Wing are too close to my body and no I don't have a beer belly) and a ride told it all. You drive a Wing, you ride a LT. LT came home with me.
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I have been a huge fan of the BMW LT site , but this has to be the most ridiculous positing so far. Why would some one make a statement like that about a bike that everyone here wants to learn about and talk? I guess I should start making comments about Goldwings on their site. Not!!!!!! Lets be a bit sensitive to the choices people make on the type of ride they like. But as you know everyone has an opinion. But that is just my opinion…

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So again I ask the question, "Why would anyone buy an LT over a GOLDWING?!".
Because I've ridden both and owned both

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GW over a LT?

Well it looks like Joe's LT is up for sale and some one bought a GW instead. Or is it some one elses?

If it is not preference it is not knowing the truth. The motorcycle press is very slanted toward the GW. Big Red spends lots of Green in every moto mag.

It is funny the BMW's have to beat the others by 20% to be better in coparos where the other brands get close to equal and they are the victors in the comparo!. Read about the Buell Uylses in the Euro mags vs what the American press says. What a joke. Even the article in this months Road Runner eluded to some issues but was very diplomatic in its description.

Most Americans only put on 2500 miles per year on their bikes. So they would not know a good thing if it sat on their lap.

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Exclamation OK...OK...Now that I've got your attention!

With well over 8,500 posts, I knew that this would stir up some emotions. Funny though...I am hard pressed to find ANYONE defending the GoldWing in this thread. Personally, I wouldn't throw a rock at one. Honda makes an AMAZING luxury tourer. But for whatever reason(s), it is not OUR cup-of-tea. Try to remember that I bought an LT over the Wing too.

The reason for this thread?...

450 lucky people, (messenger13 included), decided to buy the new K1200GT OVER the Yamaha FJR1300 for very similar reasons that y'all bought the LT over the GW. And yet every time there's a thread comparing the two, many of you are defending the FJR and wondering why some of us spent over $7K more for the GT. Scroll back up through this thread and you'll see the reasons.

It's a freakin' BMW man! And I just happen to believe that nobody (not Honda, or Yamaha) can make a motorcycle that compares to them. Call me "brain-washed" . . . I'm OK with that.
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With well over 8,500 posts, I knew that this would stir up some emotions. Funny though...I am hard pressed to find ANYONE defending the GoldWing in this thread. Personally, I wouldn't throw a rock at one. Honda makes an AMAZING luxury tourer. But for whatever reason(s), it is not OUR cup-of-tea. Try to remember that I bought an LT over the Wing too.

The reason for this thread?...

450 lucky people, (messenger13 included), decided to buy the new K1200GT OVER the Yamaha FJR1300 for very similar reasons that y'all bought the LT over the GW. And yet every time there's a thread comparing the two, many of you are defending the FJR and wondering why some of us spent over $7K more for the GT. Scroll back up through this thread and you'll see the reasons.

It's a freakin' BMW man! And I just happen to believe that nobody (not Honda, or Yamaha) can make a motorcycle that compares to them. Call me "brain-washed" . . . I'm OK with that.

Okay, I will defend the Wing. I chose my 04 LT over a cheaper 03 Wing whilst trying out both when I went shopping to replace my HD. I loved that Wing...big, bright yellow and comfy. The LT just plain fit me better.

I still may buy a Wing one day. Even got my eyes on a 75 naked Wing. Then again I may buy another HD.

All three are great rides but do things differently. For me, I prefer the LT for my uses but damned if I will ever throw rocks at either the Wing or the HD. They are all just that good.

Okay, consider 'em defended.
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If the LT cost $8K more than the GW I NEVER would have bought one. I would have stayed with the Sport Tourer style that I prefer. If the GT was priced within a couple grand of the FJR, I'd have likely gone with the lucky ones. But, for me and many others here, value IS a serious consideration.

Please, don't judge me too harshly.......

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With well over 8,500 posts, I knew that this would stir up some emotions. Funny though...I am hard pressed to find ANYONE defending the GoldWing in this thread. Personally, I wouldn't throw a rock at one. Honda makes an AMAZING luxury tourer. But for whatever reason(s), it is not OUR cup-of-tea. Try to remember that I bought an LT over the Wing too.

The reason for this thread?...

450 lucky people, (messenger13 included), decided to buy the new K1200GT OVER the Yamaha FJR1300 for very similar reasons that y'all bought the LT over the GW. And yet every time there's a thread comparing the two, many of you are defending the FJR and wondering why some of us spent over $7K more for the GT. Scroll back up through this thread and you'll see the reasons.

It's a freakin' BMW man! And I just happen to believe that nobody (not Honda, or Yamaha) can make a motorcycle that compares to them. Call me "brain-washed" . . . I'm OK with that.

yup i knew it was bait

but your correct

I came from a ton of years riding HD to the BMW's, I didn't ride the wing before I bought my lt, but i did take a '04 wing for a test ride when I had about enough of the crap with my bike, heck the new '04 ABS w/CB and CD wing was less than my lt was new in '02.

I can understand WHY someone would buy a wing over a LT if they havn't rode a LT any amount.

for one the seating position on the wing was a little better for me, I could flat foot the wing no problem, it has a lower COG. that is where it all stopped......

the handling although good on the wing was nothing compared to the LT , the brakes were good on the wing although nothing compared to the LT, the suspension was good on the wing and yet still nothing compared to the LT, then No electric W/S

I feel the same comparing the FJR to the new GT although I will say the brakes on the FJR work great, still the bike lacks compared to the GT in all other area's IMHO.

I think there is a reason Lou is considering going BACK to a GS from the FJR, although he has not said.......

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But an Beemer over a panhead? I guess you gotta have (at least) one of each, eh Tom?

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Don't forget. If you ride two up on the GW, the rider and passenger MUST be dressed EXACTLY alike. If not, possible jail sentence.
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Have you seen this beauty?!?!

I have now. But for $11,500 I can get an 03 with 14k miles, cb, changer, etc. locally and owner will handle the financing if I want him to.

I do like the color, though. The local on e is black, my least favorite color for cars, trucks, motorcycles. I'd like to find a silver, blue, or mauve (purple) one locally, or at least w/in 100 miles of me.

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But an Beemer over a panhead? I guess you gotta have (at least) one of each, eh Tom?

You do realize that God rides a Panhead, he gave the knuck to his son <g>

BTW my next Hd will hopefully be a knuck, I've never owned one and have alway;'s wanted one, i've had a 49 FL 58 flh and a 65 FLH

I kept the 58 cause well heck I liked it better than the others, shoulda kept the 65 as well but it blew the right case apart and someone paid me good money for it the way it was

the 58 is down in fl getting a complete overhaul when i have the time to go down and work on it. should be done end of this year, I miss riding it.

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How did a thread about LTs and Gold Wings get hijacked about GAY Harleys?!?! Anyone who owns a PanHead is a PIN head, anyone who owns a KnuckleHead IS a KnuckleHead, and anyone who owns an Evo IS the missing link!

(V-Rod owners are excluded from the above comments, because it is the only Harley worth owning.)
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How did a thread about LTs and Gold Wings get hijacked about GAY Harleys?!?! Anyone who owns a PanHead is a PIN head, anyone who owns a KnuckleHead IS a KnuckleHead, and anyone who owns an Evo IS the missing link!

(V-Rod owners are excluded from the above comments, because it is the only Harley worth owning.)

i can tell your never coming to Georgia again, and living to tell about it

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It's hard to ride that without a throttle, isn't it? Or...does it actually run better without one?!
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It's hard to ride that without a throttle, isn't it? Or...does it actually run better without one?!
that was getting mocked up with the disc brake front end, the bike right now is apart much further than that

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How did a thread about LTs and Gold Wings get hijacked about GAY Harleys?!?! Anyone who owns a KnuckleHead IS a KnuckleHead!
Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck! Oh, a wise guy, eh?
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