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Rear wheel spacer?

I have noticed on my bike, as well as several pictures of other k1200lts online that the rear tire isn't centered with the dressing i.e. rear fender, saddle bags, and trunk?

I had thought at first that my frame must have been tweaked by a P.O., but when I saw that the majority of the rear pics I could find on the internet showed the same results: rear tire being approximately 1" right of center I thought that it must have been a manufacturing flaw, or something that an engineer thought would better balance the bike.


I was reading through a tire thread when I came across a post that may have answered a question I have had about rear end alignment.

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The rear Dunlop had a history of rubbing against the Driveshaft Housing/Swingarm unless you added an additional spacer ring/shim like the one that is already there.

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Am I understanding this post correctly? Is there a spacer between the wheel, and the final drive? and if so is the thickness by any chance 1/2", or more likely 12mm?

I have yet to take off my rear wheel, but I noticed the offset while pondering a hitch install.

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There is a spacer between the rear wheel and the final drive, but it is only about 1.6mm thick, definitely not even close to 12mm. The purpose of the spacer probably has nothing to do with wheel alignment, but rather to insulate the aluminum wheel from the aluminum drive flange.
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There is a spacer between the rear wheel and the final drive, but it is only about 1.6mm thick, definitely not even close to 12mm. The purpose of the spacer probably has nothing to do with wheel alignment, but rather to insulate the aluminum wheel from the aluminum drive flange to prevent the effects of corrosion.
This makes sense because I've seen the effects of galvanic corrosion, and the little amount of time that it takes for it to set in especially when road salts are present.

Does this mean that my rear/sub frame is tweaked in the same manner as nearly every other rear picture of a k1200lt that is on the net?

I thought I was just seeing what I wanted to see until I asked a neutral party at work (who is a construction worker) to put his eye on the images, and he saw the same pattern, a consistent 1"right of center.

Do any of you readers have this issue?
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I forgot to install that spacer once, as a result the wheel rubbed the swing arm leaving a fine mark on the wheel (all away around)
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There is a spacer between the rear wheel and the final drive, but it is only about 1.6mm thick, definitely not even close to 12mm. The purpose of the spacer probably has nothing to do with wheel alignment, but rather to insulate the aluminum wheel from the aluminum drive flange.
Why would you need to insulate between the same materials?

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Why would you need to insulate between the same materials?
Aluminum wheel, steel hub am I missing something?
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Aluminum wheel, steel hub am I missing something?
Read the post I replied to...

Not saying it is correct, but...

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aluminium molecule gives up one electron to corrode easier than steel does so aluminium will protect the steel although no where near as well as zinc which gives up electrons quite freely
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I don't have my manual handy, butt the rear wheel/ track offset is engineered in. There is a procedure in the book about how to set up the measuring jigs to get the offset correct. I don't know the dimensions, butt someone with a book can look that up and post. BTW, again I'm not sure, but most two wheel vehicles will have an engineered offset.
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Correct Dick, the rear wheel is offset to the front wheel centreline by 4mm according to the BMW workshop manual (in fact there is a range stated), and yes, there is a procedure for checking alignment & offset. As for the steel spacer and all those electrons, well,.... maybe the same factory technician the over-shimmed all those FD units also took too much off the steel boss on the end of the FD carrier and they had to throw a spacer in there

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On the earlier bikes, some makes of tires rubbed the swingarm, even with the standard 2.00 MM spacer in place. BMW supplied 3MM spacers to use in these cases.

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So it's not necessarily abnormal for my rear tire to be a half inch right of center?
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So it's not necessarily abnormal for my rear tire to be a half inch right of center?
I would so it's alright as a visual, but if you wanna know if it's within the offset specs, you'll need to follow the manual's procedure for track off-set. Plus you want measurements taken relative to the bike's suspension parts, frame and wheel run-out and NOT the tupperware parts.
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I would so it's alright as a visual, but if you wanna know if it's within the offset specs, you'll need to follow the manual's procedure for track off-set. Plus you want measurements taken relative to the bike's suspension parts, frame and wheel run-out and NOT the tupperware parts.
Yes, I would be more suspect of the alignment of the bodywork than of the wheel.

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It is by design, that is why they handle so well...
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It is by design, that is why they handle so well...
That shows the offset range to be between 5 MM right of center to 14 MM left of center. The original poster states his is considerably to the RIGHT, so something is quite wrong with his bike.

Edit: The picture is misleading. Looking at the formula I see that the range is actually 5 MM LEFT of center to 14 MM RIGHT of center. So the wheel can be over 1/2" to the right, and still be in spec.
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That shows the offset range to be between 5 MM right of center to 14 MM left of center. The original poster states his is considerably to the RIGHT, so something is quite wrong with his bike.

Edit: The picture is misleading. Looking at the formula I see that the range is actually 5 MM LEFT of center to 14 MM RIGHT of center. So the wheel can be over 1/2" to the right, and still be in spec.
We don't know that anything is wrong with his bike's wheel alignment. The diagram posted is only addressing relative alignment between front and rear wheels. I see no absolute reference to the bike itself. The OP is referencing to the body work which is a very tenuous reference at best.

To know if anything is wrong, he needs to check the alignment between the wheels as in the diagram. I don't know if BMW has a reference to the frame or depends on the front wheel being centered in the fork and serving as the reference. This seems unlikely as bent forks would mess up that reference. Seems like there must be a frame or engine reference somewhere.

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The OP sounds like he is referencing pictures for the alignment in comparison to the body work and pictures can be very misleading.

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The OP sounds like he is referencing pictures for the alignment in comparison to the body work and pictures can be very misleading.
It's true that pictures can be misleading, but out of multiple pictures I saw more that duplicated my concern, few that looked centered, and none that were to the left side.
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Well, I just went and looked. My wheel looks centered to me.

Many years ago when I rode an FLH, I had a mishap one evening that tweaked the frame just a little. After replacing the obviously bent parts like fenders, crash bars, handle bars and gas tanks I went for a ride. It handled a little odd, not real bad, it was rideable but I decided to fix it right. Got the frame spec from the manufacturer after some trouble. Stripped it down to the frame ( a whole lot easier than doing that to an LT) and went to measuring. The steering head was twisted to one side. Straightened it to factory spec and put it together. It tracked better than it ever had ( I had it since new), tires wore evenly but it developed another oddity. At the time I lived in Nebraska and the only cruise control we had was the throttle lock, could ride for many miles without touching the handle bars. But. After the repair, if you came off of a bridge and it had a drop off, it would develop a wobble that slowly got worse, best fix was to give it a little throttle and you were good to the next bridge/overpass.

Motorcycle frames have a fairly wide range of specification. If they handle OK and the tires wear OK, be happy and ride it.
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Mine looks centered as well. Maybe a picture of the errant bike is in order?

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Finally remembered to look at mine - looks centered

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Yep,... mine is centred, almost to the millimetre on the rear number plate panel. Lets see a pic taken exactly centred from the rear of the bike, with the number (license) plate plastic panel in place for a starting reference.

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I replaced my FD with a used one a couple months back. Today, I noticed that it looks like my Avon Storm 3D has been rubbing on the swing arm pretty bad. From what I'm understanding, the differences in the shimming inside the FD could cause this.

Seems that it is time for some spacers.
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The variations from shimming the preload on the final drive would not move a tire that much. Often you have to add spacers to accommodate certain tires. But if this tire/wheel combo is the same and only the FD was changed then it could be the pivot bearings. Any new stuff implemented there such as the new pivots sold by Ted Porter?

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The pivot bearings were the same as I've had for years. I don't recall their being any play that would have given me the opportunity to torque up the pivot out-of-whack, but I could be wrong. Could it also be possible that my former trashed FD was just preventing this issue from showing? This is my first Avon tire. I always used Metzlers before. I've had it on for several months now.
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So you moved the pivot bearings to the new drive? I guess what I was getting at was the tire on the old drive or did you add the tire after the new drive? I have heard of the Metz 888 series rubbing but not the 880s. Never ran an Avon. The torque on the pivots for preload is only 7 Nm so I doubt that is the issue.

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So you moved the pivot bearings to the new drive? I guess what I was getting at was the tire on the old drive or did you add the tire after the new drive? I have heard of the Metz 888 series rubbing but not the 880s. Never ran an Avon. The torque on the pivots for preload is only 7 Nm so I doubt that is the issue.
Yikes! ME 888 rear tire might rub... good to know. I just bought a set of Metzeler ME888s. I will hafta keep an eye on the mount. I currently have a set of 880s. Thanks for the heads up!

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The pivot bearings were the same as I've had for years. I don't recall their being any play that would have given me the opportunity to torque up the pivot out-of-whack, but I could be wrong. Could it also be possible that my former trashed FD was just preventing this issue from showing? This is my first Avon tire. I always used Metzlers before. I've had it on for several months now.
Steve, In searching for rubbing tires on the LT, I came across some postings where it was stated that Radial tires get wider as they begin to age where biased get taller. If that is truly the case for radials, then your tire that may not have rubbed in the beginning may have increased its width sufficiently to now be rubbing. Adding a spacer or two may be your only option other than changing the tire. If it was me, I may try and make some from some sheet metal I bought at Home Depot as long as I could put a mic on it and it was sufficiently even in thickness. It might be a bit of work if you only needed one at $27 from the dealer but that would depend on what tools you have or if you have someone who could make you a couple easily. They wouldn't have to look particularly pretty
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My additional spacer showed up in the mail. I took the rear wheel off to put it on and had a good look around the pivot bearing bolts. I noticed that the outer one looked like it wasn't making contact with the housing. I put the bit on there and the damn thing MOVED! It was loose. DOH! I remember looking at the torque spec on that bolt and thinking as I was doing it "no fucking way ... that's crazy ... that's more than the head bolts on the truck engine". Well ... turns out it wasn't. I torqued it to what it is supposed to be.

So, if you see a wear pattern on your rear tire like mine, it MIGHT just mean that your final drive, along with the whole rear wheel, is about to FALL OFF!

On a good note, I changed the oil on the FD I picked up from Scouter-50 a couple months back and it was totally clean!
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My additional spacer showed up in the mail. I took the rear wheel off to put it on and had a good look around the pivot bearing bolts. I noticed that the outer one looked like it wasn't making contact with the housing. I put the bit on there and the damn thing MOVED! It was loose. DOH! I remember looking at the torque spec on that bolt and thinking as I was doing it "no fucking way ... that's crazy ... that's more than the head bolts on the truck engine". Well ... turns out it wasn't. I torqued it to what it is supposed to be.

So, if you see a wear pattern on your rear tire like mine, it MIGHT just mean that your final drive, along with the whole rear wheel, is about to FALL OFF!

On a good note, I changed the oil on the FD I picked up from Scouter-50 a couple months back and it was totally clean!
Yep, the fixed bearing stud and the locknut are a hefty 160Nm ( 118 Ft Lb) dry while holding the inner floating bearing stud at only 7Nm ( 62 In Lbs ).

I hope you redid the inner floating one so you don't kill your pivot bearings.

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My additional spacer showed up in the mail. I took the rear wheel off to put it on and had a good look around the pivot bearing bolts. I noticed that the outer one looked like it wasn't making contact with the housing. I put the bit on there and the damn thing MOVED! It was loose. DOH! I remember looking at the torque spec on that bolt and thinking as I was doing it "no fucking way ... that's crazy ... that's more than the head bolts on the truck engine". Well ... turns out it wasn't. I torqued it to what it is supposed to be.

So, if you see a wear pattern on your rear tire like mine, it MIGHT just mean that your final drive, along with the whole rear wheel, is about to FALL OFF!

On a good note, I changed the oil on the FD I picked up from Scouter-50 a couple months back and it was totally clean!
When you torque the outer pivot bearing pin the inner pivot needs to be loose. It has to be done in the right sequence. Torque the right side then set the preload on the left side then torque the left jam nut without changing the preload.
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Stock spacer is about 1/8 inch, of course in a metric thickness.
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