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Hi everyone, I am new to the site but not BMW. I am a female rider and have been riding for many many years. I currently have a 2007 Ducati Multistrada 1100S. It has full luggage, tank bag and heated grips. It is light and fast and very fun to drive. I like the bike but miss having a BMW. My first BMW was an 97 R1100RT. I purchased the bike used and put another 20K on her in several years of riding. When BMW introduced the Adventure I fell in love with the Silver beast and wanted one. I sold my 97 and purchased a brand new 2003 Adventure with full bags. Over the next several years I perfected her to something I could ride a long way in comfort. Aeroflow screen Rick Mayer seat, and many other minor changes gave me a bike that I loved. In three years I put 50,000 miles on her. But as I was getting older I was also noticing the bike was getting heavier and heavier. Her height and 8 gals of gas sitting high in the air resulted in three parking lot drops in my last year of riding her. So I decided it was time to look for something else. I bounced through several other bikes including a full dress harley, an Aprillia Futura and a couple other bikes. I ended up with the Ducati about year and a half ago. I have enjoyed the Ducati with the best part being how light it is. My dislikes - No ABS I became a real fan and still am and really want a bike with ABS, Weather Protection, and Last Ducati Owners - Just not the same as the BMW crowd.

So I started looking into getting back into the BMW world. I considered the R1150RT since I did enjoy my RT and knew the R1150 was even better then my R1100. Prices were getting pretty good, but it was hard to find one with lower miles - like under 70K people ride these bikes. The other obstacle for me is that I have found as I have gotten older my throttle hand is my weak link when it comes to riding. So cruise control was something that was going to be high on my list. R1150 = no real cruise. I know throttle locks are OK but not the same as real cruise which I had on two of my Harleys and a Goldwing I owned. So I upped my target price and started looking for a R1200RT. Even better then the R1150 and you can have Cruise and some other nice goodies. Well, while I was looking and not finding many R1200RT's in my target price range, I stumbled accross a 2007 K1200GT. It had all the features I liked on the RT, Cruise, Moving Screen, Great Luggage, ESA, etc,,, It also had more weight, not much, but more, but it also had a lot more HP. This Bike had 38K miles was very clean and was priced just under 10K. I checked the blue books I realised the bike was priced right and it was coming from a BMW who just did the full 36K service.

But then I started to read - bad mistake - and I started to get worried. Am I buying a time bomb that is going to blow up, run horrible, handle like a tank, etc, etc , etc. I test rode the bike and the first ride was harsh to say the least - I felt every crack in the road. But the price and condition kept drawing me back. So I gave it another try and much better this time must have been riding in sport mode with two up plus luggage. Anyway I felt much better toward the bike and have made a deposit.

So here is a little more about me - I am 5' 11 and average build, I have 34 inch inseam, and a well cushioned bottom.

Now I just want to throw this out to you who own theses beasts am I making a good decision are these bikes better then the bad press I have read on the forums. Also any insight for a new possible owner. I am supposed to pick her up this Friday. I would love to hear any input and am looking forward to getting back in the BMW crowd.
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I love my 2007 K12GT. It does have a couple of glitches that were fixed in 2008. Occasionally, at steady throttle, the power will seem to go away. A slight crack of the throttle brings it back. Very infrequent. And at a stop in city traffic, engine idling, it will occasionally stall. Starts right up with a quick hit on the starter. Also very infrequent.

I mentioned both of these minor glitches to a BMW service tech before the warranty expired. He said, "Bob, I can fix these glitches. Trade it in on an '08."

27,000 miles later, I still love it. The new K16 folks are just getting to experience the fantastic power of the machine, something that we K12/13GT folks have had all along.

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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy a 2007 K1200GT

Thanks for the input. I know that all bikes have issues. I always read about the surge issue on both my R1100RT and my 2003 R1150GS adventure. Could I tell there was a surge a low RPM - Yes did it cause me any issue - NO!

Do wonder why two bikes a year a part and very much the same why they can not fix the issues in the older bike. Makes you wonder what change. I did notice when look for a Manual online so I could learn more about the bike that in 2007 there was a change between bikes made in 2007 before July and Those made after July 2007. At least the owners manual changed have not done page to page check but they are different.

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I have a 2006 GT that does the stumble thingy at constant speed. At first I thought it was bad gas. I am now 90% confident it is due to the purge calibration in the engine controller. My plan is to plug the purge line and see if it goes away. If it does then the issue can be corrected.

It is possible the calibration was corrected by 2008, and there may even be a new calibration that can be installed on the 2006/07. We shall see...

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Just traded my 2007 GT in on a 1600. The bike does have a little surge. I was able to get that mostly corrected with a new airbox. Other then that the bike was perfect and what makes it even better is that you should be able to buy an 2007 about 60% cheaper today then when it was new. These suckers depreciate like mad and there are lots of very low milage bikes on the market that you can steal right now. Good luck. The bike is awesome.
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These suckers depreciate like mad and there are lots of very low milage bikes on the market that you can steal right now. Good luck. The bike is awesome.
Uhem... yup, exactly!

Note: I added the emphasis in the quoted message.

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I have never had any problems with mine at all. Love it!

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I moved from an LT to a 2009 K1300 GT about a year plus ago and have nothing to say but praise for the overall bike - it's fantastic. The issues noted here already have been corrected for the K1300, but I haven't encountered any "new" issues. It's a fine machine to ride. While that doesn't speak specifically to the 2007, I can only offer praise for most of the overall platform. Good luck with your decision.

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Bryannagirl -

Forgot to mention the bunch of items available to trim the bike to your riding style and preferred position - bar backs, lowered foot pegs, etc. I find my ride pretty close to the LT I had previously. So if your initial test rides seem a bit awkward, there's lots of help for trimming it up to fit you.

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Hey Bryanna!

My '07 GT was flawless. None of the quality control issues that infected the other GT's. The reliability of the FD or the longevity of the engine remains to be seen. But it's a blast to ride!

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She is now mine, so far so good the bike is extremely clean given it's 38k miles. I have not noticed any of the faults mention except for a very faint and very infrequent clutch squeak if I had not read about I would of never even noticed it. Got BMW gps mount $26 out the door works great with my $35 dollar garmin 2610. Also stumbled across a tank bag that looks great on the bike does not block my gps and is narrow up front so the bars turn lock to lock and do not touch the bag. Got some of that custom reflective material cut to fit rear bags not yet installed. So farkles have begun. I think a different shield my be my next purchase maybe a zteck or calisci or if I can scrape up the funds aeroflow

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She is now mine, so far so good the bike is extremely clean given it's 38k miles. I have not noticed any of the faults mention except for a very faint and very infrequent clutch squeak if I had not read about I would of never even noticed it. Got BMW gps mount $26 out the door works great with my $35 dollar garmin 2610. Also stumbled across a tank bag that looks great on the bike does not block my gps and is narrow up front so the bars turn lock to lock and do not touch the bag. Got some of that custom reflective material cut to fit rear bags not yet installed. So farkles have begun. I think a different shield my be my next purchase maybe a zteck or calisci or if I can scrape up the funds aeroflow

Thanks for the confidence boosting comments

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Congratulations! Ztech's are relatively inexpensive and my tall model worked really well in reducing buffeting and improving wind protection. With your inseam you might want to consider peg lowers if you find the riding position cramped on longer rides. If the stock seat is working for you, consider yourself lucky. Have fun with your bike.
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Congratulations! Ztech's are relatively inexpensive and my tall model worked really well in reducing buffeting and improving wind protection. With your inseam you might want to consider peg lowers if you find the riding position cramped on longer rides. If the stock seat is working for you, consider yourself lucky. Have fun with your bike.
No long rides yet so it is hard to tell. I know when I raised the seat with the stock screen I got to much wind so I have lowered the seat.

I plan on riding all winter if as long as the roads stay dry and I can get my gerbing to work with the CanBus power outlet.

Maybe a tall Ztech is the way to go.

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P.S. Any comments on the Aeroflow airgauards anyone
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No long rides yet so it is hard to tell. I know when I raised the seat with the stock screen I got to much wind so I have lowered the seat.

I plan on riding all winter if as long as the roads stay dry and I can get my gerbing to work with the CanBus power outlet.

Maybe a tall Ztech is the way to go.

Thanks

P.S. Any comments on the Aeroflow airgauards anyone
I installed Aerogards on my K1200GT a few months ago, when I installed an Aeroflow screen. The Aerogards work very well, keeping the wind off my hands, arms, and shoulders. They create a nice still pocket of air in the cockpit (in conjunction with the Aeroshield). Now I wonder why I took so long before buying them.

Actually, the Aerogards work too well for summer use (at least here in California). I took them off because I wanted a lot more fresh air blowing through the cockpit. I will put them back on when the weather cools down. They are easy to attach and remove. If I lived in Denver and I rode year round, I would find it hard to ride without them. (He said, thinking of a recent ride from Denver to So. Cal. over I-70, with temps in the low 20s. )

Before you buy the Aerogards, check out similar products from Wunderlich and other companies. I prefer the Aerogards. Each Aerogard comes in two halves - You can leave the lower half off if you want more air.

http://www.aeroflowscreens.com/K1200GT.htm
http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mot...00327-328.html

One comment - the tall Aeroflow screen and the Aerogards took a 3-4 mpg bite out of my fuel economy. You would see similar mpg losses from other large windscreens and side deflectors.

Here is a spreadsheet showing K1200GT fuel economy and maintenance over a four-year span. Note the fuel economy changes (due to the larger screen and side deflectors) from this past June.

Spreadsheet: http://www.k-bikes.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=53
Full thread: http://www.k-bikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13211

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As a heads up, I think there were some troubles with the cam chain jumping over the drive teeth and potentially causing major damage. BMW part #113 185 26 932, is a bracket that goes over the sprocket drive of the cam chain on a the wedge heads. Intent is to keep the chain from hopping a tooth if for some reason the chain starts a whip that the tensioner cannot handle. I don't remember if there was a recall, or this fix was just slipstreamed into production. You may want to check with your dealer if this has been installed or is needed.

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Ahhhhh ... squeaky clutch. Forgot to mention that. Happens when pulling out from a stop in 1st gear. My K12GT has been doing it for the last 25,000 miles.

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Ive had my2007 k1200GT since new. Great bike, and I still love it. some hesitation in accel- de acel, but you learn how to deal with the shifting by keeping up the revs. I would recommend it to anyone......
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Ive had my2007 k1200GT since new. Great bike, and I still love it. some hesitation in accel- de acel, but you learn how to deal with the shifting by keeping up the revs. I would recommend it to anyone......
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Hi everyone, I am new to the site but not BMW. I am a female rider and have been riding for many many years. I currently have a 2007 Ducati Multistrada 1100S. It has full luggage, tank bag and heated grips. It is light and fast and very fun to drive. I like the bike but miss having a BMW. My first BMW was an 97 R1100RT. I purchased the bike used and put another 20K on her in several years of riding. When BMW introduced the Adventure I fell in love with the Silver beast and wanted one. I sold my 97 and purchased a brand new 2003 Adventure with full bags. Over the next several years I perfected her to something I could ride a long way in comfort. Aeroflow screen Rick Mayer seat, and many other minor changes gave me a bike that I loved. In three years I put 50,000 miles on her. But as I was getting older I was also noticing the bike was getting heavier and heavier. Her height and 8 gals of gas sitting high in the air resulted in three parking lot drops in my last year of riding her. So I decided it was time to look for something else. I bounced through several other bikes including a full dress harley, an Aprillia Futura and a couple other bikes. I ended up with the Ducati about year and a half ago. I have enjoyed the Ducati with the best part being how light it is. My dislikes - No ABS I became a real fan and still am and really want a bike with ABS, Weather Protection, and Last Ducati Owners - Just not the same as the BMW crowd.

So I started looking into getting back into the BMW world. I considered the R1150RT since I did enjoy my RT and knew the R1150 was even better then my R1100. Prices were getting pretty good, but it was hard to find one with lower miles - like under 70K people ride these bikes. The other obstacle for me is that I have found as I have gotten older my throttle hand is my weak link when it comes to riding. So cruise control was something that was going to be high on my list. R1150 = no real cruise. I know throttle locks are OK but not the same as real cruise which I had on two of my Harleys and a Goldwing I owned. So I upped my target price and started looking for a R1200RT. Even better then the R1150 and you can have Cruise and some other nice goodies. Well, while I was looking and not finding many R1200RT's in my target price range, I stumbled accross a 2007 K1200GT. It had all the features I liked on the RT, Cruise, Moving Screen, Great Luggage, ESA, etc,,, It also had more weight, not much, but more, but it also had a lot more HP. This Bike had 38K miles was very clean and was priced just under 10K. I checked the blue books I realised the bike was priced right and it was coming from a BMW who just did the full 36K service.

But then I started to read - bad mistake - and I started to get worried. Am I buying a time bomb that is going to blow up, run horrible, handle like a tank, etc, etc , etc. I test rode the bike and the first ride was harsh to say the least - I felt every crack in the road. But the price and condition kept drawing me back. So I gave it another try and much better this time must have been riding in sport mode with two up plus luggage. Anyway I felt much better toward the bike and have made a deposit.

So here is a little more about me - I am 5' 11 and average build, I have 34 inch inseam, and a well cushioned bottom.

Now I just want to throw this out to you who own theses beasts am I making a good decision are these bikes better then the bad press I have read on the forums. Also any insight for a new possible owner. I am supposed to pick her up this Friday. I would love to hear any input and am looking forward to getting back in the BMW crowd.

Hi,

Just saw this posting. Not sure if you are still around.

How is your experience with the bike so far?

And why do you think the GS is too heavy in comparison with the GT ? I thought the GT is Heavier ?

I am considering a 2007 GT also and currently ride a 1999 K1200LT which is a HEAVY bike, I like the LT but something lighter and nicer/newer might be nice.

Would appreciate feedback on reliability and other maintenance issues with the 07 GT in comparison with the LT.

Thanks.
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I moved from an LT to a 2009 K1300 GT about a year plus ago and have nothing to say but praise for the overall bike - it's fantastic. The issues noted here already have been corrected for the K1300, but I haven't encountered any "new" issues. It's a fine machine to ride. While that doesn't speak specifically to the 2007, I can only offer praise for most of the overall platform. Good luck with your decision.

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Hi,

I just saw this post.

I too own an LT, a 1999. I was curious to know how do you compare the LT to the GT that you own? And which year LT did you own.?

I am curious to know. Can you elaborate please?

Thanks so much.
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