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post #1 of 17 Old Mar 10th, 2008, 1:45 am Thread Starter
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OK, so I finally get a chance to have a little ride on my new GT on Saturday. Took off from Fresno and headed up towards Yosemite in the Sierras - didn't quite make it that far. I love it, but.......
This morning I ride over to my daughter's house for breakfast, planning on a longer ride for today. After breakfast I suit up, jump on and turn the key. All the blinking dash lights do their little dance and then display a large EWS message. Try the starter - no whir. MMmm. I had unfortunately left the owner's manual back at our house, so couldn't look it up. Now EWS is not exactly an intuitive fault code, so I go get the manual. Aha! It's the immobiliser that has kicked in and it gives me a few options, like remove other ignition keys from key ring (don't have the key on a ring), try expensive plastic spare key - no go.
Sunday morning, so what else, but turn to the Internet. Of course, this site doesn't know about three character acronyms. Google to the rescue. Holy sh.., Batman. Try doing a Google search on 'k1200gt ews'. Many hits and many unhappy owners - mainly on the advrider.com site. Some guys have been stranded on their GSes in the middle of nowhere. At least I was near home.
Seems like this is a known problem and not a very popular feature all round. Many are wishing for a way to immobilise the immobiliser . Apparently the culprit is a faulty antenna ring that detects the signal from the chip in the key to see whether it is a valid key.
No option, but to wait for the dealer to open on Tuesday. Oh yeah, I did try disconnecting the battery for a while and that didn't help either.
Oh well.

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post #2 of 17 Old Mar 10th, 2008, 2:00 am
 
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Re: @#$%^^&* Ews

IIRC, there was a service bulletin regarding this issue LAST spring. I'm guessing yours was never serviced.
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Brian.. your bike is a year old?

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I have an 08 that had the identical problem with only 200 miles on it.
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As a temporary fix, has anyone tried taping the spare plastic key to the point on the computer where the antenna cable enters?

Assuming there is something wrong with the antenna or the antenna lead, the system isn't likely to notice or be confused by the regular key when you switch the bike on. Hopefully it can communicate with the spare plastic key, because it is so close that an antenna wouldn't be needed.

Is it enough to help you get the bike to the dealer for a proper repair?
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Brian.. your bike is a year old?
Chan, the bike is 2 weeks old with 300 miles

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As a temporary fix, has anyone tried taping the spare plastic key to the point on the computer where the antenna cable enters?

Assuming there is something wrong with the antenna or the antenna lead, the system isn't likely to notice or be confused by the regular key when you switch the bike on. Hopefully it can communicate with the spare plastic key, because it is so close that an antenna wouldn't be needed.

Is it enough to help you get the bike to the dealer for a proper repair?
Reading some other posts, seems like it is not just an antenna, but has some logic in it.

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This is the worst news you could have told me in that 3 out of 4 of my BMW's are CAN-bus/antenna ring bikes. My '07 GSA is awaiting a trip to service since it has had the dreaded EWS failure. But, I thought the problem was localized to the older part no. and that the newest bikes were exhibiting NO failure!

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Re: @#$%^^&* Ews

Is the computer located more to the left side of a GT or more towards the right side of the bike. Forgive me, I just haven't had to take my tupperware off yet.

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Is the computer located more to the left side of a GT or more towards the right side of the bike. Forgive me, I just haven't had to take my tupperware off yet.
It's under the seat, the ZFE is on the right side.



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It's under the seat, the ZFE is on the right side.
Sitting on all your brains, Grif?

They picked the bike up on a flatbed y'day, but I haven't heard anything yet.
I wasn't very impressed with the way they tied it down. He had a harness for the handle bars and tied it using that with the bike on the side stand and wedged against the winch in front. He then looped a tie down through the luggage rack to secure the back! Not to mention that there was fresh oil all over the floor that got all over the tires.

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Back on the road again. BMW of Fresno had the part in stock. Sure enough it was the ring antenna. The SA told me that they have had quite a few part# changes for the ring antenna, so hopefully they have a good supplier now.

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This is the worst news you could have told me ,, I thought the problem was localized to the older part no. and that the newest bikes were exhibiting NO failure!
Common problems with all , some say the more electronic gadgets located around the key increase the failure rate.
Removal requires drilling out the old mounting studs. Some shops reattach the new system with allen bolts and suggest carrying 2 spares. This allows a swap of key system on the fly

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Had ring antenna go bad on my '07 GT in April at a gas stop in New Bern North Carolina. First dealer said it was a loose wire and tried to send me on my way. It wasn't a loose wire. They did not have the part. I got the bike started (it was intermittent) and got to Raleigh where they diagnosed the problem and replaced the antenna. Well here we are 6 weeks and about 2500 miles later and I get the big EWS again. Heading to my dealer in the AM.
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Re: @#$%^^&* Ews

Delivery of my recently acquired 650 GS - the new twin - was delayed wihle a mod was arranged by the dealer to fix the key problem. That at least indicates it's a known problem all the way along the supply chain.

As an aside, the bike is just about perfect for the daily commute and occasional national park exploration.

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EWS will also come on with low battery power available.
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