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How To Wheelie

Check out this video on how to wheelie. Simple and basic stuff, I know, but very practical. And it is FUN to do on a GT! Mine will ride one a LONG way!

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on the test drive...

On my test ride of the '07 GT, going about 20-25 mph on a side road, I cranked it wide open to see how it felt. Front wheel came up. I bought one the next day. :-)
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I've done wheelies in 1st, 2nd, and third! Not that I "ride" them. But I do like getting the front wheel off the ground. Gives you that real "launched" feel.
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you GT guys don't impress me with this wheelie talk...when you can rip one off for a mile and a half on an LT, talk to me!


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you GT guys don't impress me with this wheelie talk...when you can rip one off for a mile and a half on an LT, talk to me!


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Well, I bet you could do it once...but it ain't worth a clutch to be able to say "I did it"

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Well, I bet you could do it once...but it ain't worth a clutch to be able to say "I did it"

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ASC = No Wheelie

I finally got around to reading my owners guide cover to cover. (Noticed a couple of typos -- guess that's what I get for buying a foreign bike! Unless the max line really is below the min line on the front brake fluid sight...)

Turns out the ASC will kick in on a wheelie. Now I know how I'm going to see what it feels like when the ASC kicks in. :-) Don't worry, you can turn it off.
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Turns out the ASC will kick in on a wheelie. Now I know how I'm going to see what it feels like when the ASC kicks in. :-) Don't worry, you can turn it off.
ASC will kick in when there is a significant speed differential between the wheels. So if you keep the front end up long enough that the front wheel begins to slow, I guess it would interpret that as the rear wheel spinning faster and thus reduce power to the rear.

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I finally got around to reading my owners guide cover to cover. (Noticed a couple of typos -- guess that's what I get for buying a foreign bike! Unless the max line really is below the min line on the front brake fluid sight...)
Actually...it depends what position the bike is in. Wheels down, or UP!
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Darn...mine doesn't have asc.

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I've done wheelies in 1st, 2nd, and third! Not that I "ride" them. But I do like getting the front wheel off the ground. Gives you that real "launched" feel.
I've seen Joe do this and personally believe he was bored at the time I know I was....then laughter filled my helmet-not sure 'bout Neils

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I've seen Joe do this and personally believe he was bored at the time I know I was....then laughter filled my helmet-not sure 'bout Neils
Huh?!?! Wasn't me! I would never do such things in a group setting. How irresponsible!


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Huh?!?! Wasn't me! I would never do such things in a group setting. How irresponsible!


I saw him "kind of" gunning it in one town. Saw the wheel pop up a little. Wouldn't really call it a wheelie. I think Joe can do better. Then I'll call it a wheelie. It's a lot more fun reading Joe's joke postings after you have seen him and talked to him. Don't know if I've ever saw someone raz a waitress everywhere we went.

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ASC will kick in when there is a significant speed differential between the wheels. So if you keep the front end up long enough that the front wheel begins to slow, I guess it would interpret that as the rear wheel spinning faster and thus reduce power to the rear.
I don't think it'll be the front wheel slowing so much as the rear wheel speeding up. Once the front wheel is off the ground it won't go any faster, but presumably the rear will. I'm not planning to ride a wheelie down the road.... yet. :-)

Anyway, it's all just theory 'till I get off my lazy butt and go try it.

I got back on my GPZ1100 yesterday to run some errands and get it ready to sell. Wow, I forgot how much more "sport" the riding position is. I missed those extra 35 ponies too. Now I won't be so sad to see it go.
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I'm with Rob. If you think "wheelies" are cool then you're on the wrong website. What they are is illegal. Jack, it appears that you reside in NC. Well, in NC, doing a "wheelie" is considered wreckless driving and worth 5 points on your license. If you can afford the steep increase then by all means, let it rip.

It takes a certain type of rider to think wheelies and stoppies are entertaining. I put them in the same category as those that think "loud pipes save lives".

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I'm with Rob. If you think "wheelies" are cool then you're on the wrong website. What they are is illegal. Jack, it appears that you reside in NC. Well, in NC, doing a "wheelie" is considered wreckless driving and worth 5 points on your license. If you can afford the steep increase then by all means, let it rip.
So...you never speed either? Not just a few miles over the limit? Every else does it, right? Or pass in double yellow zones? Or . . . or . . . or?

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It takes a certain type of rider to think wheelies and stoppies are entertaining. I put them in the same category as those that think "loud pipes save lives".
That generalization doesn't even warrant a comment.

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I'm with Rob. If you think "wheelies" are cool then you're on the wrong website. What they are is illegal. Jack, it appears that you reside in NC. Well, in NC, doing a "wheelie" is considered wreckless driving and worth 5 points on your license. If you can afford the steep increase then by all means, let it rip.

It takes a certain type of rider to think wheelies and stoppies are entertaining. I put them in the same category as those that think "loud pipes save lives".

We don't need any more enemies than we already have.... grow up.

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Hey...Hey...Hey...Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I just found it amazing that my GT would actually do it after being on an LT (my previous bike). And, I do admit that I like it...and so do MANY others who can ride very well and are not into the "loud pipes save lives" kind of thinking...so whatever "class" that puts me in...well, so be it. And to be clear, I am not talking about stoppies or even extended wheelies. Just a slight lifting of the front wheel under hard acceleration.

Anyway, I apologize. I have been on this site for quite awhile and the vast majority of my posts have been very positive and an attempt to help others, not hinder. I guess, like most men, the kid side of me still likes to come out. I suspect it does in most of us.

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Hey...Hey...Hey...Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I just found it amazing that my GT would actually do it after being on an LT (my previous bike). And, I do admit that I like it...and so do MANY others who can ride very well and are not into the "loud pipes save lives" kind of thinking...so whatever "class" that puts me in...well, so be it. And to be clear, I am not talking about stoppies or even extended wheelies. Just a slight lifting of the front wheel under hard acceleration.

Anyway, I apologize. I have been on this site for quite awhile and the vast majority of my posts have been very positive and an attempt to help others, not hinder. I guess, like most men, the kid side of me still likes to come out. I suspect it does in most of us.

Hey Pastor J-

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I'm not a great rider....but I'm with you...Wheelies are a blast

Last bike: 1986 XL600R Wheelies..what speed & what gear-didn't matter
What fun that is!!!!!!!!!!

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I appreciate your comments, but I can't take it back. I want to set a good example. The first wheelie I did was on a entrance ramp to an interstate. I just didn't believe it would actually do it (being shaft driven and all) so I just fanned the clutch in first and WOW...it worked. The other ones (very intentional) were on private property with no one around to endanger.

Very frankly...I am not a lawbreaker. I support and believe in law enforcement. Without it, we have total anarchy. I never try to go over the speed limit. When I ride with others, I am usually being left behind, BECAUSE I obey the limits.

Furthermore, I have had several crashes on bikes...one was VERY serious. I am a very experienced rider and I began this whole thread simply because I was just wowed by the GT's power. Didn't mean to get a whole deal going on right and wrong. The law is clear...I just hope EVERYONE obeys them...then civilization is much better off.

Hey...I even think I've seen a few LEO's make mistakes from time to time. SO did this pastor....and I'm big enough to admit it.

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I'm with Rob. If you think "wheelies" are cool then you're on the wrong website. What they are is illegal. Jack, it appears that you reside in NC. Well, in NC, doing a "wheelie" is considered wreckless driving and worth 5 points on your license. If you can afford the steep increase then by all means, let it rip.

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Come on, man. You've NEVER pulled a wheelie?
Nope, appears to be too busy on the lecturing circuit and doing some generalizations on his days off.

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And the very reason I won't post a pic of my GPS screen I showed you Saturday.



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GPS screen? I didn't see no steenkin GPS screen. I did see toast on a steek, steak on a steek, strawberry shortcake on a steek, even Bones on a steek, but no steenkin GPS screen! That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it, on a steek!

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Wheelies vs Showing Off

I think there's a world of difference between having the front wheel come off the ground on your way up an on-ramp (fun!) and riding one wheel up and down El Camino Real at dusk (stupid.)

I'm all for the former, and believe me, when I experiment with the ASC-wheelie relationship it'll be in full gear on a quiet road, not in shorts and flip-flops while lane splitting at rush hour.

I think it's possible to have fun (a lot of it) within (or at least not too far outside) the letter of the law. And the GT seems to be a great bike for that.

I'm also a big fan of law enforcement and law, but with some restraint and moderation. I don't want to live in anarchy, but neither do I want to live in a police state. I think most people fall somewhere in between too.
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And the very reason I won't post a pic of my GPS screen I showed you Saturday.
I'd like to see it and compare notes, but that's what PMs are for.

But put me in the camp that can't see the reason to break traction on either wheel in any normal street situation. But then I can't see the point in purposely scraping pegs either, though I've never had anyone complain about me holding them up when riding together.

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Check out this video on how to wheelie. Simple and basic stuff, I know, but very practical. And it is FUN to do on a GT! Mine will ride one a LONG way!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jqqVJmsF6...elated&search=

Anyone else out there ever wheelie yours?
Just so I make sure I don't wheelie, I'm asking this question? Having a tad difficulty understanding the verbiage on a notebook computer coupled with the accents, seems like the opening exercise is 'wind' out the bike in 1st AND then 'slip' the clutch to get the front wheel off of the ground? Is that correct, just so I don't do that of course!?

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On my (unspecified) sport tourer....bring it up to about 3K rpm in first and crack the throttle wide open. Front comes up easy as pie. I did it once, just to prove the method...

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Just so I make sure I don't wheelie, I'm asking this question? Having a tad difficulty understanding the verbiage on a notebook computer coupled with the accents, seems like the opening exercise is 'wind' out the bike in 1st AND then 'slip' the clutch to get the front wheel off of the ground? Is that correct, just so I don't do that of course!?

I think what he intended was to "wind up the rpms" to about 3-4k rpms in 1st and then just "blip" the clutch. Just kinda' "pop it" once.

Just be sure you don't ever do that, 'cause it might just cause a wheelie, which, of course, is something one would NEVER want to do intentionally.

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Comfirmed ASC = no wheelie

I didn't try the blipping the clutch method, but I tried a couple of "really crank it up the on-ramp" type accellerations with ASC enabled and not enabled. With ASC on, as soon as the front wheel starts to come up there's a kind of vibration feeling and the wheel goes right back down. I don't notice any massive loss of acceleration or anything, just a kind of a buzz. It's actually pretty cool, I can just crank the throttle and get full sustained acceleration all the way up the on-ramp. (Of course then I have to slow down to legal highway speeds before merging. None of the on-ramps around here are short enough to require full throttle merging...)

With ASC turned off the same rapid start will get the wheel up.

Curiously, the ASC light didn't come on in the first case. According to the manual the light shows up when the ASC kicks in and stays on for a second after it cuts back out, but I didn't see this happen. I'm not sure what version of the bike OS is installed -- is there a way to get that to show up somewhere?

Anyway, now I know what ASC feels like, and I think I like it.
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There are numbers shown (look like serial numbers) when you read the ECU (per the GS-911). It won't tell you Version 6, 7 or whatever. Those are just the codes used by BMW software CD's supplied to the dealer.



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I'm with Rob. If you think "wheelies" are cool then you're on the wrong website. What they are is illegal. Jack, it appears that you reside in NC. Well, in NC, doing a "wheelie" is considered wreckless driving and worth 5 points on your license. If you can afford the steep increase then by all means, let it rip.

It takes a certain type of rider to think wheelies and stoppies are entertaining. I put them in the same category as those that think "loud pipes save lives".

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Hey...Hey...Hey...Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I just found it amazing that my GT would actually do it after being on an LT (my previous bike). And, I do admit that I like it...and so do MANY others who can ride very well and are not into the "loud pipes save lives" kind of thinking...so whatever "class" that puts me in...well, so be it. And to be clear, I am not talking about stoppies or even extended wheelies. Just a slight lifting of the front wheel under hard acceleration.

Anyway, I apologize. I have been on this site for quite awhile and the vast majority of my posts have been very positive and an attempt to help others, not hinder. I guess, like most men, the kid side of me still likes to come out. I suspect it does in most of us.
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Every man, regardless of his occupation, has made way more than a few mistakes. By admitting it we can then learn from it and grow. BUT, this is hardly a moral issue!

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Are you able to walk on water, too?



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For those of you that live in So Kal--stay off the public SIDEWALKS also!
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I think the So Kal drivers should practice walking on water first. Then, maybe, they would learn to DRIVE on it!

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My, oh my, I am amazed at how just the mention of a wheelie gets people wrapped around the axle. For cryin' out loud...I even apologized publicly earlier in this thread!

But then...I didn't notice any complaints from guys who own GT's....maybe that's because they ride bikes that CAN!

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Right now, the sokal folks just better be praying for some water falling from the sky!
If they would maintain a few hundred feet of defensable space around their property, they wouldn't have to pray!
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"Furthermore, I have had several crashes on bikes...one was VERY serious. I am a very experienced rider and I began this whole thread simply because I was just wowed by the GT's power.>>"

Somehow, something in that statement just doesn't look right.
Bubba, I don't know about you, but I'm man enough to admit that he crashes better than I do!

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<<"Furthermore, I have had several crashes on bikes...one was VERY serious. I am a very experienced rider and I began this whole thread simply because I was just wowed by the GT's power.>>"
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You got that right! The only crashes I have ever had (and those were 25 years ago) were caused by showing off, or while racing.

Whew...just remembering the pain (and long recovery) make me want to slow down. I haven't done but one or two on the bike and USUALLY ride VERY safe and quite slow.

As I posted earlier, I didn't start the thread wanting everyone to think I was some kind of maniac, I was just amazed that this bike WILL loft the front wheel quite easily!

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Right now, the sokal folks just better be praying for some water falling from the sky!
Scariest ride of my life - the night before last - in Southern California, from San Clemente to Anaheim. An entire hillside in flames near the 5 freeway. Smoke so thick you could hardly see. Wind blasts so strong they could easily blow you over, or blow a car into you.

I had ridden out easily enough though the "high winds" in the early morning, and expected the same on the return trip. The breeze was light when I left San Clemente, but after turning the corner at San Juan Capistrano, the whole situation changed. The wind came with terrifying force. I took it slow and careful and made it home safely. Call it luck or a watchful eye from above, but I made it.

Let me add that the "slab" faring, the 49 liter top case, and the tall windscreen on the K1200GT really caught the gusts. The side cases were off. The prevailing winds came from the side, but there were a lot of sudden gusts from all directions or a swirling action. Sometimes it felt as if the wind undercut me from below and sometimes it pushed from the top. I made it marginally better by lowering the windscreen all the way down and lowering my body position to reduce my side cross-section.
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Sounds like it would have been a not so perfect time to pull a wheelie.



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When I was only 15 years old I got a Suzuki GSXR1100 -- my very first bike and and that's what I took my permit and license test on believe it or not Ö the ultimate crotch rocket of the day

Since then I've only owned 1100 or 1300 Suzuki sport bikes, I currently have a 2006 Hayabusa

One of the things that I'm really proud of is that I've never, ever attempted or done a wheelie or anything close to it ... I don't even speed more than 5-8MPH over the speed limit

I know what some of you are thinking ... why buy a Hayabusa if you aren't going to do wheelies and go 180MPH? Itís just not something that I'm interested in - I have my own reasons for owning these bikes all my riding life

Just because you have the power doesn't mean you have to use it ... especially on a regular road ... I happen to prefer the 1100 and 1300 Suzukiís for the way that they handle and the stability that they have, I really don't care how fast the top speed is or how fast they can accelerate - but that's just me

I really don't mean to offend, but things like this kind of bother me because they appeal to high school kids with rockets and then they want to go out and show their friends the cool new trick they can do ... just my $0.02

In my opinion, stuff like this is why motorcycle insurance is so expensive for new riders, and also why there are so many fatalities from high school kids trying this kind of thing on a 180HP bike like I have and I honestly hope the people that see it have enough common sense to NOT try to do those things unless they have a LOT of riding time under their belt, and they are on a track with lots of support people and emergency equipment because they WILL need it sooner or later
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Man, if you will just read the thread. Not a hooligan type thang. You've never, ever pulled a wheelie? True that, I've pulled more wheelie's accidentally than on purpose, well, at least since I quit riding dirt.

But, you've NEVER pulled a wheelie?

BTW, going 8 over is still speeding and you ARE breaking the law. So, if you're gonna pull the pious, walking on water thang around here, take off the lead shoes first.



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AND...I pass on double-yellow A LOT.

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Man, oh man! This thread has been more fun than any wheelie ever! Kinda' thing we need to liven it up around here! I was gettin' bored!

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+1! Now if we can just get the government to learn this...
+1! I can just feel one of the panty wadders nuttin' up tighter than a rusty drum!

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