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Next Gen K1200GT - Rumor Watch

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Announced today at the Milan show
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And here are some other pictures from Milan

Different view of the K1200GT



New R1200S


New F800ST
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New P bike?

Humm, the GT could make a nice Police bike platform. I can just visualize it.



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You mean like this?

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That will be the "interceptor" model for CHP


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Here is the text translated from German:

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The K 1200 GT the past K 1200 GT follows and is based on the innovative engine technology of the K 1200 S and K 1200 R. the second generation of the GT offers driving dynamics on high level. In addition considerably the engine tuning particularly designed for high torque contributes, which to sovereigns road performances as well as maximum Agilitaet leads. The achievement of the Sporttourers will amount to over 110 kW/150 HP. Also the chassis components do not leave open desires. The same technical basis has the K 1200 GT as the K 1200 S and offers to the customers the front wheel guidance Duolever, the Paralever for the rear wheel guidance as well as special equipment the electrically adjustable shock strut (ESA). The GT earned the name "Gran Turismo" like no second. To the series trim the adjustable seat and an adjustable steering wheel belong. The wind sign can be electrically individually adapted. Further components of the equipment are the luggage system as well as the BMW motorcycle integral ABS in the part-integral version. In addition BMW motorcycle holds a custom-made offer ready at special equipment and option. Perfect wind and is enclosure and the optimal driving equipment offers the new K 1200 GT for route and long-distance drivers. The machine is surprisingly narrow nevertheless and works very elegantly.


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What's up with the "Robo Cop" angular styling on BMW's nowadays????

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It's that David Robb styling thing. You know, the "I design on computer so I can only do straight lines" thing. I am convinced that if anyone bothered to do these models in clay, the angular thing would have been abandoned.


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Ya know....sometimes the old ways are better. Clay models have real character.

I know the designers are trying to come up with fresh styling but all the angular designs of cars, motorcycles, etc. in the past (1980's come to mind) sure do look dated now where as the rounded designs seem much more pleasing as time goes by.

I dunno...maybe I'm being too picky but the current LT has that clean design which I prefer. But that's just me.

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I agree. I sure hope they don't screw up the LT in it's next generation. I DO NOT like the new GT! Especially the slab sided look of the lighter color. WAY too much flat surface.

If the new design of the LT looks anything like the new GT, used LT prices will likely go up though!

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Gives us an idea on how ugly, imho, the new LT is going to be.
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After looking at the original post by eljeffe id would guess that BMW has placed them self right in the market area of the likes of the Honda ST1300 etc.

I have no doubt the GT will do very well in the market place.

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I like the new direction . . . and I have a feeling that most will eventually like them as well, given time. I will be buying the next generation LT.
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I just heard that the new K1200GT will make it to US Shores for the Cycle World Motorcycle Show in Long Beach, CA - Dec 9-11, 2005.

The specs say it will have 152 HP and 130 nm Torque.


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Yikes on the Tq. That's about 95.88 lb-ft.



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I dunno, David. The slab side would be a good place to put a map of the US (world) so that you can click off states (countries) as you pass through. Kinda like those big stickers you sometimes see on RV's.

It kinda looks like what I expected, based on the S bodywork. I remember the first time I saw an LT, all I thought was that it looked bulbous. Then I rode one, and didn't care how it looked. Now I'm kinda used to it, and appreciate the style, and the space and comfort it provides.

I'll sit on the GT at the Cycle World show, and probably test ride one when they get to my local dealer. I think I'd like it, but I'm concerned about passenger comfort as well. So overall I'll have to wait for the new LT to compare before making a choice. For me, how it feels is much more important than how it looks (as confirmed by my unofficial Rat Bike HDDC nickname ).

At least they learned from the previous GT and actually lowered the muffler so they could fit a full size saddlebag. That's worth a lot in itself.

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More pictures from the Milan show:









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I think this picture confirms some of the initial rumors regarding the creature comforts:

- cruise control
- heated grips
- heated seat
- electrically adjustable windshield
- ESA

Notably missing is the radio option. However, is it an optical illusion, or is that a compartment on the right fairing shelf that looks similar to the RT's radio compartment?

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It's that David Robb styling thing. You know, the "I design on computer so I can only do straight lines" thing. I am convinced that if anyone bothered to do these models in clay, the angular thing would have been abandoned.
Maybe it's the F-117 approach---now if the fairing only cam in a R A M version---but the I'd only want an H U D and a F/C switch--some of us are never satisfied--

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I'm sure this will be a great bike to ride and I hope it draws down some R12RT sales so I can get one of those at a good price in a year or so ;-)

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It's also got the headlight/parking light/off switch on the right grip cluster. But then it is a Euro model bike.

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All lower 48 states plus Alaska on the K13GT in two weeks . . .

Some people see the gas tank as half empty. Some see it as half full. All I care is that I know where the next tankful is coming from...
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Dang! Talk about a wide-body fat-ass motorcycle!!! From the back that sucker looks 5 feet wide!!!!

Oh, well, at least HD still knows how to design a piece of art...now only if they could build a good motorcycle and I would ride one again....
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You know, all I really care about is how it looks from the cockpit, while leaned into a corner at full-tilt. Make it comfortable enough for thousand mile days, and I'm sold. Outside appearances and public reactions are just fluff.

Of course, I really ought to wash my LT now and again, just so I can remember what color it is.

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I just heard that the new K1200GT will make it to US Shores for the Cycle World Motorcycle Show in Long Beach, CA - Dec 9-11, 2005.

The specs say it will have 152 HP and 130 nm Torque.
Hmmm...thanks for the info ElJeffro.

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FYI: One of my little birdies that feeds me little tidbits about BMW says that the compartment on the right is for the radio and that the same audio system used by the R1200RT will be available as an option for the K1200GT


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Seem like a back step to me. Like my old K100RT
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And looking at the layout of the R1200RT and the potential of the K1200GT, it appears that a radio option is quite plausible.



BTW, the rear rack on the new GT looks identical to the one on the R1200RT, which means the 48 litre topcase is available as an option.

There are also rumors of a 6.5-7.0 gallon tank, so the fuel range will be interesting to see.
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Hey I have a radical idea. How about we just keep the LT the way it looks and put that more powerful engine/transmission/drivetrain in it. I like the style of the LT, it's purty, still turns heads. That Euro-techy-pseudospaceship look doesn't float my boat. Change for the sake of change is no good. Now if the new look has a functional side, i.e. significant wind resistance and handling improvement, weight reduction without loss of functionality OK I'll listen. I suspect when I will be in the market for a new bike I will be buying the last model year of the current LT on the used market and there will be plenty to choose from cause everyone will want the hot "new" bike. Beside then I can bolt on my recently acquired custom seat and my butt will be happy.

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Thats too funny .... What a GREAT ! photoshop ADD ON of the CHP logo.

Indentical picture of the same bike

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Dang! Talk about a wide-body fat-ass motorcycle!!! From the back that sucker looks 5 feet wide!!!!
All that space and so tiny a brake light--
I know the bags are removable , but it would be nice if they had some optional lights.

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