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post #1 of 31 Old Mar 2nd, 2017, 12:08 pm Thread Starter
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Looking at buying a 2009 K1300GT with 66k on it...

Am I crazy to be looking at this bike?

I've never owned a Beemer, nor a touring bike. I have had a 2004 Softail and then traded up to my current bike, a Big Dog Motorcycles K-9. I've been with this bike almost 10 years now and it's time for me to move on to something smoother and not such an attention getter... I hate leaving it because people seem to think it's ok to take pictures on it.

Anyway, I've been looking at the K 1300 GT and absolutely love the looks, love them I say. I'm looking for a bike that the wife and I can tour a bit on, day and possibly weekend trips.

So, I've been reading a little, and it seems the K bikes are high maintenance. I like doing my own maintenance but I also understand my limitations, time and skills wise. So, valve adjustments will be a dealer task but can a good shade tree perform most of the maintenance on these bikes? Is the reliability there? Is 66k miles on a 1300GT asking for trouble? Are there big maintenance milestones just around the corner? Is this a bike that will last me another 50-60k miles with routine maintenance?

I'm looking for some wisdom from those that know these bikes, what I should be looking for or what to avoid. Thanks in advance.
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Yes a bit. The K bike series is the most expensive to maintain. You can do all the fluids and brakes so that will help plenty. There is plenty of info on the web to maintain this bike. They are fun. But have a reputation for some individual units to be real dogs. Do not pay more than 5 or 6 grand for it, take it for at least an hour ride and see how it behaves. Does it stall at stops, run smooth, has it been serviced regularly. In my opinion it is a crap shoot and I love K bikes. Second week of October of 2009 is when the new air boxes went in. They were nasty before that. RT's make good two up bikes too and are far less prone to issues. You also need to be relatively near a competent dealer, some are better than others of course.

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Re: Looking at buying a 2009 K1300GT with 66k on it...

The more I read the more it seems like the FJR and Concours could be better options, staying in the same power range. I'll start reading up on the RT, seems like a simple, low maintenance, power plant.
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The more I read the more it seems like the FJR and Concours could be better options, staying in the same power range. I'll start reading up on the RT, seems like a simple, low maintenance, power plant.


Tim, I recommend talking to Sonny at BMW Austin. I recently traded my 08 K1200GT in there. It's a tremendously fun bike. A true rocket ship. They've got a decent preowned selection to browse there.


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Tim, I recommend talking to Sonny at BMW Austin. I recently traded my 08 K1200GT in there. It's a tremendously fun bike. A true rocket ship. They've got a decent preowned selection to browse there.


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I went to look at it last week and one of the salesmen couldn't get out of first gear, wasted a ton of time appraising my bike then told me the K1200GT I came to look at was probably in the back some where... that dude was freaking SLOOOOOOWWWWWWW! I got frustrated, ran out of time and had to head south to pick up my daughter.
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I went to look at it last week and one of the salesmen couldn't get out of first gear, wasted a ton of time appraising my bike then told me the K1200GT I came to look at was probably in the back some where... that dude was freaking SLOOOOOOWWWWWWW! I got frustrated, ran out of time and had to head south to pick up my daughter.


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Hey, if you can find a good one all is right with the world. FJR over conny. Both bikes are heavy, require high rpms to get power going and burn fuel. The world is a trade off. I like your thought of giving the RT a good look over, no mistake there. Often picked as the best all around tourning bike and, it has some pep if you ride it (where I think is good) in the power band. Stay above 4K rpm and doing business stay around 5 or 6k +. Easy to eat Harleys on an RT all day long. They love to putt along at 80 (or more) and are easy to ride around town. The maintenance on them is all within your stated abilities. The weather protection is out standing and with the large fuel tank you can go 275 miles no problem. Metzler Z8 tires lasts 8000 miles or more and work well.
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Thanks beech, I think I'm going to head out tomorrow and take a look at a k and r bikes tomorrow. Hopefully I can get a couple of test rides in. I won't know until I actually ride these two and see for myself.
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Re: Looking at buying a 2009 K1300GT with 66k on it...

I'm heading to test ride a 1300GT and a 1200RT tomorrow afternoon. Gonna give them both a try and see what feels best for both myself and my wife. She's only been on my Big Dog and I haven't ridden anything else in 10 years, this should be interesting.
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Re: Looking at buying a 2009 K1300GT with 66k on it...

I bought an 09 1300 GT that had 1200 miles on the odometer. I never owned or rode a transverse multi before . I really enjoyed the power and handling of this bike. Down side it was a heavy beast when still or moving under 5 mph. I kept the bike until last year. I thought I had a failing ESA II rear shock. All the research to replace led me to no aftermarket fixes for this bike. OEM was 3500 for the part. You install or they install. It turned out not to be the ESA unit but the heavy weight and my aging led me to trade her in for a 16 R1200RT. What a difference. A hundred pounds + lighter than the K bike and it felt like the R was 300 pounds lighter. Lower C of G.
The K bike had her issues that most of them realized. Stalling for no reason , hot start issue, Surging engine RPM after starting, Switch cluster failures both sides. I mean wow. The stalling was blamed on everything form dirty cheap gas to fouled injectors. Hot start blamed battery. Non true. I believe they are software programs in the computer. Since BMW quit making this bike in favor of the 1600 they chose not to correct the real issue.
I have had the RT for just short of 6K miles and have not experienced one thing that I have been disappointed in. Just great riding.
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It turned out not to be the ESA unit but the heavy weight and my aging led me to trade her in for a 16 R1200RT. What a difference. A hundred pounds + lighter than the K bike and it felt like the R was 300 pounds lighter.
Actually, the difference in weight between your '16 R1200RT (604) and a '09 K1300GT(634) is 30 pounds. I rode a 2005 R1200RT for 10 years and loved it. It had 109,000 miles on it when it broke the driveshaft and I traded it in for a 2009 K1300GT. The wind protection is great on an RT and I got close to 300 mpg when traveling on the highway. The comfort level on the RT is better than the GT and you can add highway pegs to the RT, but the engine on the GT is smoother with a lot more power. With your skill level, working on an RT will be easy as valve adjustments are simple tappet and screw. Picture of my RT on my return trip to Texas from California and the new GT..
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I bought an 09 1300 GT that had 1200 miles on the odometer. I never owned or rode a transverse multi before . I really enjoyed the power and handling of this bike. Down side it was a heavy beast when still or moving under 5 mph. I kept the bike until last year. I thought I had a failing ESA II rear shock. All the research to replace led me to no aftermarket fixes for this bike. OEM was 3500 for the part. You install or they install. It turned out not to be the ESA unit but the heavy weight and my aging led me to trade her in for a 16 R1200RT. What a difference. A hundred pounds + lighter than the K bike and it felt like the R was 300 pounds lighter. Lower C of G.
The K bike had her issues that most of them realized. Stalling for no reason , hot start issue, Surging engine RPM after starting, Switch cluster failures both sides. I mean wow. The stalling was blamed on everything form dirty cheap gas to fouled injectors. Hot start blamed battery. Non true. I believe they are software programs in the computer. Since BMW quit making this bike in favor of the 1600 they chose not to correct the real issue.
I have had the RT for just short of 6K miles and have not experienced one thing that I have been disappointed in. Just great riding.
Do ride both bikes if you can, then you choose.
Thanks for sharing, it will help with my decision.
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Actually, the difference in weight between your '16 R1200RT (604) and a '09 K1300GT(634) is 30 pounds. I rode a 2005 R1200RT for 10 years and loved it. It had 109,000 miles on it when it broke the driveshaft and I traded it in for a 2009 K1300GT. The wind protection is great on an RT and I got close to 300 mpg when traveling on the highway. The comfort level on the RT is better than the GT and you can add highway pegs to the RT, but the engine on the GT is smoother with a lot more power. With your skill level, working on an RT will be easy as valve adjustments are simple tappet and screw. Picture of my RT on my return trip to Texas from California and the new GT..

I'm not planning longer, multi state trips, mainly weekends when the wife when we can. I'm a power guy and fear I'll end up sacrificing some reliability for the power. I was supposed to do some test rides Saturday, with my wife, but it's been wet and rainy all day. I'm going to shoot for some solo rides and then go from there.

I watched some maintenance videos on you tube and I don't think the GT would be that bad... Any excuse to buy a new tool.

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The power is addictive. Make sure there are no open campaigns on the GT. Remember that the valve adjustment will require you to remove the cams if it needs shims and the radiator will need to be pressure filled when it is reinstalled. You'll need something like a UView 550000 for the job. The BMWMOA site has a section for Wedge bikes with a DIY section. Were you looking at the red 2009 GT at Alamo BMW?

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The power is addictive. Make sure there are no open campaigns on the GT. Remember that the valve adjustment will require you to remove the cams if it needs shims and the radiator will need to be pressure filled when it is reinstalled. You'll need something like a UView 550000 for the job. The BMWMOA site has a section for Wedge bikes with a DIY section. Were you looking at the red 2009 GT at Alamo BMW?
I was looking at the Red, but leaning towards the Grey one due to mileage and price. I think it was $500 more with 26k miles less.

I had some test rides set up for Saturday, but the rain screwed that up. So, I'll have to get some rides in this week, then find a time to get my wife on the bikes to determine which , if not both, are comfortable for her.

Logically the R1200RT seems to be the proper choice but the speed demon in me continues to gravitate towards the K1300GTs... plus they just look sexier to me.
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I know the two previous owners of the grey one you are looking at; well cared for. I bought the Red one that they had on the floor with a little over 10,000 miles on it in November. Check out the dark blue 2016 R1200RT that they have there on consignment.

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So I finally got some test rides in, Brian at Alamo BMW was great to work with.

The GT felt nice, was smooth but the riding position wasn't perfect. I'm not used to riding with pressure on my wrists and didn't care for it. I think if I could move the handlebars up, and back, that could remedy the situation. The handlebars were adjusted all the way up already.

The RT just felt right. The power was plentiful and the riding position was spot on. I'm drawn to the GT because I love the angular lines and just the overall look but the RT felt the best.

Now I just need to determine if I bite the bullet and take a big hit with a trade in or do I wait it out and sell my bike myself.
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I think you have made a good choice, RT's are great, and the best all around touring bike. You will find plenty of power if you just run it in the upper RPM's where the HP is available. As an aside and a many year rider of K12/13S bikes, of course there are times when there is some weight on your hands and wrists. But, the good way to ride one of these is using your legs, back and gut to hold yourself up, not your wrists. Loose and limber as Keith Code says.
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I ran across the Master Yoda Riding Position topics, great info.
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Having owned both now, you can add bar backs to the GT as well as the RT. Be warned when riding 1 up, the GT (because of the angular lines) is not as stable in a crosswind as the RT and when you use a 49L top case on a GT, it gets worse. DON'T use lowering pegs on a GT; it will totally throw you off when you try to use the rear brake because there is no height adjustment for the brake but there is adjustment for the shifter. I know for a fact that the RT can get up and go in the upper range of the RPM's (mine topped out at 140mph, and it was a 2005). Brian at Alamo actually has my old RT now.
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Re: Looking at buying a 2009 K1300GT with 66k on it...

The K13GT can be quite comfortable, with a few minor tweaks.

Here's my '09 GT set up for long distance riding.



That bike ran 13,000 miles and 48 states (including Alaska) in 11 days without hiccup or complaint.
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The K13GT can be quite comfortable, with a few minor tweaks.

Here's my '09 GT set up for long distance riding.



That bike ran 13,000 miles and 48 states (including Alaska) in 11 days without hiccup or complaint.
DAMN!!!! Very impressive!
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Sometimes, you just need to go for a ride...

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Hey Meese - Was that shot taken near the Aeroflow building?

For everyone else - here are photos from another Meese-owned KGT. This K1200GT ran 11,047 miles in 11 days in 2009.
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I have owned my '09 K1300GT for for just over two years, got it with 3,80 miles on it. I have put just over 10K miles on it and loved every mile, great bike with an amazing engine.

The only issue I had initially was a false "oil" indication light. Turned out to be a software cliche that my BMW dealer took care of free of charge. Otherwise the bike has performed brilliantly, wish BMW still made the K1300 bikes both S and GT. The K1300 engine is intoxicating.

Anyhow good luck with your decision, the 1200RT is also a great bike, if the K1300 wasn't comfortable for you.
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Did you get the RT? I made a mistake on my previous post. "The wind protection is great on an RT and I got close to 300 mpg when traveling on the highway". Meant to say 300 miles per tank.

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Nothing yet, almost purchased a '07 RT on Saturday, after dropping off my BDM at Strokers Dallas for consignment.

The advertised price was $5k, then when I asked for the out the door price, it magically jumped up to almost $6200. They did allow me to take the bike out alone, and for an extended test ride. I REALLY like that bike! That was at Freedom Powersports in Fort Worth.

I'm not in a rush and I'm looking for a deal.

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Nothing yet, almost purchased a '07 RT on Saturday, after dropping off my BDM at Strokers Dallas for consignment.

The advertised price was $5k, then when I asked for the out the door price, it magically jumped up to almost $6200. They did allow me to take the bike out alone, and for an extended test ride. I REALLY like that bike! That was at Freedom Powersports in Fort Worth.

I'm not in a rush and I'm looking for a deal.
Tim, I went from FJR to K1200GT and it was different. FJR cuts thru crosswind like knife cutting butter, while K series almost threw me over once. Due to high maintenance and cost I sold mine in Oct 2016 and pick up the one of the last 4 of the 2016 R1200RTLC, all I can say is I can see the maintenance is going to be easier, like you mentioned the ride position is a lot better, the torque and horse power is there too but you have to run it upper range 3k or above ( my speeding ticket is waiting for me) wind protection is exceptional also, I rode in the rain few months ago and Metzler Z8 performed well in wet weather did not get wet at all unless at stops. I have read some where in BMWMOA forum there is a gentleman bought a 2016 R1200RTL C loaded with central locking, logged 5 miles from dealer to home and parked since, he is asking for 19k, if you have money this would be a good purchase, my buddy paid close to 24.5 k for his.
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