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post #1 of 14 Old Feb 25th, 2017, 6:17 am Thread Starter
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Dead battery and TPM

I did not ride my 2009 K1300GT for a few months and the battery died. It recharged ok but now the TPMs don't work. Anyone ever had this problem? Will I have to take it to the dealer to have it reset?

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post #2 of 14 Old Feb 25th, 2017, 9:49 pm
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Re: Dead battery and TPM

Before I bought my 09 13GT, the dealer had replaced the rear TPM sensor. The bike sat in the showroom for 6 months and when I took the bike home, the TPMS didn't work. They had to replace the rear sensor again because it sat for so long, and the tech said the whole time it was trying to synch itself so the battery drained.

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Re: Dead battery and TPM

The TPM sensors do not drain themselves dry trying to contact the TPM receiver when the KGT is parked. They have an internal switch that senses when the wheel is rotating, and that's when they communicate with the TPM receiver. Other than the relatively low self-drainage, the TPM sensors in your wheel should hold their charge for a few years at least. My 2007 K1200GT still has the original sensors with original batteries, but it takes a long time for the rear wheel sensor to connect, and sometimes I get an error on the dash until it does. Most of my KGT friends were replacing their sensors after 5 years or so.

I consider it one of two possibilities:

1. Most likely the TPM sensor batteries in the wheels died of old age during the time when the bike sat. The dead battery had nothing to do with it.

2. It is very rare, but the TPM receiver could have failed, or a problem with related wiring, or something like that. I doubt it, but it can happen. My TPM receiver had to be replaced under warranty about a year after I bought the bike.
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They had installed a new sensor in May and I bought the bike in November. The bike had not moved off the floor during that time. The receiver was fine and wasn't replaced. The front sensor was original to the bike, so it had been in for 7 years. They said the battery in the sensor drained, not the battery for the bike.

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They had installed a new sensor in May and I bought the bike in November. The bike had not moved off the floor during that time. The receiver was fine and wasn't replaced. The front sensor was original to the bike, so it had been in for 7 years. They said the battery in the sensor drained, not the battery for the bike.
Then I say it was a defective sensor battery, a defective motion detector switch that got stuck ON (closed), or a defective sensor circuit (that drained the battery when it should not). All of these are built-into the sensor assembly and are not individually replaceable. The alternative is that the "new" sensor that the dealer installed is not very new. Perhaps it sat on the shelf for many years, or was previously used. No matter what the explanation, sensor batteries should not drain if the bike is not being ridden, other than the very slow minor loss that all batteries experience in storage.

The only realistic solution is to replace the sensor assembly. Some people open the sensor, scrape away the epoxy, and do their own "home-brew" battery replacement with varying degrees of success. A web search will help you there.

In my opinion, the dealer should replace the sensor under warranty. The odometer will show that the bike has not been ridden much, and the sensor should be conserving battery power when the bike is parked. There is no way a 6-12 month old sensor should have a dead battery unless the bike has been ridden several tens of thousands of miles.

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have been searching for a long time to find the answers to these questions about third-party TPM sensors:

* Are the low-cost TPM sensors on eBay and other source (typically $30-50) comparable in quality to the ones I would buy at the BMW dealer ~$150 or more (each!)?

* Will their batteries last as long? (I am willing to pay significantly more to avoid frequent wheel removal and installation just for TPM sensors. I don't want them failing in the middle of long trips, either.)

* Do the low-cost eBay sensors come with the sensor ID code on a piece of paper or sticker, or must I find a way to activate the sensor to get its ID code? (For sync'ing to the receiver.)

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Would you buy the cheap eBay sensors, or pay the high cost of BMW sensors from the dealer?
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Re: Dead battery and TPM

I have heard of only 1 case of someone getting the cheap sensors from EBay synced. You could give it a try and share here. Beemerboneyard sells them. You will need to sync them either with Dealer computer or a GS911.

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In my opinion, the dealer should replace the sensor under warranty. The odometer will show that the bike has not been ridden much, and the sensor should be conserving battery power when the bike is parked. There is no way a 6-12 month old sensor should have a dead battery unless the bike has been ridden several tens of thousands of miles.
The dealer did replace it under BMW warranty. The sensor that they put in before I bought the bike may have been bad.

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The dealer did replace it under BMW warranty. The sensor that they put in before I bought the bike may have been bad.
If I understood you correctly, the dealer put it in less than a year ago, before you bought the motorcycle. In my opinion, the dealer should replace the sensor under warranty. Don't they warrant their own parts and work?
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I have heard of only 1 case of someone getting the cheap sensors from EBay synced. You could give it a try and share here. Beemerboneyard sells them. You will need to sync them either with Dealer computer or a GS911.
I have a GS911 and see the option to sync up the sensor but I can't figure out how to do it. Can someone tell me how or point me where I can find directions.

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If I understood you correctly, the dealer put it in less than a year ago, before you bought the motorcycle. In my opinion, the dealer should replace the sensor under warranty. Don't they warrant their own parts and work?
The dealer did replace it under warranty (post #8).

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The dealer did replace it under warranty (post #8).
I see. Now I understand what happened.

In my opinion, the dealer should replace the defective TPM sensor again for no charge. The TPM sensor battery should not die in less than a year unless something in the sensor or the battery is defective. It should take tens of thousands of miles of riding to run down a TPM sensor battery in less than a year.

I bought my 2007 K1200GT new in June 2007. It still has the original sensors (and batteries) in it, with well over 50,000 miles on the odometer. Admittedly, the rear wheel sensor battery is very low; it takes a while before it connects to the receiver. Occasionally I see the TPM warning on the dash, but it usually clears after a few miles of riding. Obviously I need to replace my TPM sensors soon. :-)
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I did not ride my 2009 K1300GT for a few months and the battery died. It recharged ok but now the TPMs don't work. Anyone ever had this problem? Will I have to take it to the dealer to have it reset?

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It turns out that my control module is out... $300+ to replace 😢. I am just having it disconnected and I will check the pressure the old fashion way with a tire guard.

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Here's one from Ebay - TPMS Module

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