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Guess who rode a GT today!

I have been reading all the glowing reports on the GT, and the local dealer had an open house this weekend (new owner), so I signed up for a ride.

Followed one of the owners for about 30 minutes on a nice demo route, a little freeway, and quite a bit of semi-residential twisties around Mount Helix here in San Diego.

My first bike ride in a little over a year and a half, after my last big accident, so started out a little tenderly, but after just a couple miles it was all coming back to me, and I started riding just about like I always did (except for the crashes of course ).

Had a real blast on the GT. No high speeds, maximum about 70 on the freeway, but the twisties were great. The bike really loves to turn! The LT was no slouch, but I can see how the GT could get addictive.

I was really surprised at the clunking transmission though. HARD clunks in at least the first 4 gears, 5th and 6th did not seem so bad.

BRAKES!! MOAB (Mother Of All Brakes). I had never ridden a power brake LT, mine was a 2001, so I was not quite ready for the first stop. 2 fingers on the front brake, and it was all I could do to keep from sitting on top of the tank. HOLY COW. I know I would get used to it, actually did pretty well before the end of the ride, but that certainly can be a heart stopper if you are not expecting it. I did start using the rear brake mostly, only holding it at stops with the front brake most of the time.

Not sure I would take this bike on the types of long distance rides I was doing on the LT though. Even with the ESA on one up Comfort mode it rode a little harsher than the LT did. May change my mind if I rode one for a little while and got used to it, but the wind noise was a little worse at 60 MPH, and I would likely have to add something like Bar Backs to get the bars back another couple inches. They were in the high position, which was just about right for me, but a little to much forward lean for my body.

Loved the footpeg position though! I never liked foot forward position on any bike, and the LT was very comfortable for me. The GT is farther back, but not drastically so. The only problem I had was finding the brake and shift levers. Further down than my LT trained feet were expecting.

All in all, I have to agree that this would be one helluva fun bike to own. And as Joe said, even the kinda ungly side panels are not an issue when you are sitting on the bike.

POWER? Oh yeah! Loved that. Wondering why the bike needs a 6 speed tranny? I think it would outdo the LT using only 2nd and 5th gears. 5th gear roll-on at 60 MPH was about like downshifting the LT to 3rd!

However, for me it will likely be a used LT when I get the green light to start back, unless the new LT is out by then. I loved the power of the GT, so hopefully the new generation LT will be similar. But, if and when I do get another bike if I decide that Long Distance riding is not what I want to do again, then the GT would fit the bill nicely.

When the ride was over, I stopped the bike and was feeling around for the side stand, had a hard time finding it, so looked down, still could not find it. Hmmm, what is that little black toothpick sticking out in FRONT of the foot peg? Yep, that was it. I expected it to be behind the foot peg.

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post #2 of 10 Old Aug 27th, 2006, 8:56 pm
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Wondering why the bike needs a 6 speed tranny? I think it would outdo the LT using only 2nd and 5th gears. 5th gear roll-on at 60 MPH was about like downshifting the LT to 3rd!
If you rode a bit faster, you would love the sixth gear. On our trip to and from Niagara Falls Canada, 44.7 MPG with cruise set on 80 and bursts of power when needed to cope with the cell phone cagers. In town, I am rarely out of 4th. On the slab, 6th is sweet, especially if you enjoy high speeds. The cruise is VERY well interfaced with the ECU, both going up and down in small increments. Now that I have almost 2,500 miles, the clunk from 1 to 2 is getting far less noticeable. The rest of the gears are now snick, snick, snick.....

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I'd have to agree, David, with a few comments. The complaints you had have already all been addressed by the aftermarket (bar backs, windshield, etc.). And I hear the shift linkage can be adjusted to minimize the clunk in the lower gears.

And yes, the brakes work very well, especially if you're not expecting them. I'm just waiting for the '07 where they've gone away from the power booster pump. Not that I'd had any trouble with my '02 LT, but I can see that very expensive part being a liability after 100K miles.

I think it would make a great LD mount, similar to an FJR but with that BMW comfort. At leas that's what I'm hoping.

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Hey, hey David - what a capper on the end of a great Sunday, to read that you've finally had an opportunity to swing a leg over. That just got everythang right with the universe.

Regarding any leetle niggling negatives found in your first ride, I betcha most of 'em will have work-arounds and easy fixes when you finally get the green light to put your money down. Thanks in part to Joe and El Jeffe and all the others that've added the GT to their stable this year. 'Sides, as much as you like to wrench, gotta have sumpthin' for you to find and be the pioneer for the mod/fix.

Good on ya, again, David. I'm really glad for you, and I know the site community is too. Just wait!!!

Take care, sir.
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Hey, hey David - what a capper on the end of a great Sunday, to read that you've finally had an opportunity to swing a leg over. That just got everythang right with the universe.

Regarding any leetle niggling negatives found in your first ride, I betcha most of 'em will have work-arounds and easy fixes when you finally get the green light to put your money down. Thanks in part to Joe and El Jeffe and all the others that've added the GT to their stable this year. 'Sides, as much as you like to wrench, gotta have sumpthin' for you to find and be the pioneer for the mod/fix.

Good on ya, again, David. I'm really glad for you, and I know the site community is too. Just wait!!!

Take care, sir.
Thanks Dick. Yeah, still got a smile on my face. Even the negatives were not show stoppers by any means, just that, niggling little things I liked better on the LT, but would probably get used to fairly quickly.

When the boss does give the green light (AFTER WE MOVE), I will have to get more serious about just what I would want at that time. Relatively local (2-4 states away) riding with a lot of twisties, the GT would be a blast. If I decide to get back into LD riding again though, the LT would probably still be my choice, if the new one is out, probably even better.

Hey, Don Arthur is seriously looking at LD bikes again, so who knows. He is going to ride both the GT and newer LT to decide, but I think he may also end up feeling that the LT may be better for the many consecutive long days that LD rallies entail. Also, he is wondering how much room there is on a GT for a fuel cell with the top box added.

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I've looked at aux fuel cell ideas for the GT. There is room to replace the rear seat, but you'd probably be better with a custom built unit. I'd like to see something like the pic below. Or there is always the tail dragger option.


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If you rode a bit faster, you would love the sixth gear. On our trip to and from Niagara Falls Canada, 44.7 MPG with cruise set on 80 and bursts of power when needed to cope with the cell phone cagers. In town, I am rarely out of 4th. On the slab, 6th is sweet, especially if you enjoy high speeds. The cruise is VERY well interfaced with the ECU, both going up and down in small increments. Now that I have almost 2,500 miles, the clunk from 1 to 2 is getting far less noticeable. The rest of the gears are now snick, snick, snick.....
Oh I am sure I would like all the gears. I was just comparing the power vs. the LT in different gears.

I was amazed at the hard clunks on gear change 2nd through 4th gears. All were much worse than the LT was. Surprised that the new generation transmission was so clunky! I think most Japanese sportsbike riders would be highly turned off by it.

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Way to go David, fantastic to hear you got your leg over again ( so to speak )
After your time off, I guess any gears, clunky or not, would feel just fine. Your smile says it all, Motorcycling is very therapeutic. Ride safe. Cheers

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....... Motorcycling is very therapeutic. Ride safe. Cheers
SO and I are planning a riding trip in Australia and New Zealand. We have pals in Christ Church. Maybe we can drop by and buy you guys a diet coke when we're riding past.

I TOTALLY agree with your point regarding the therapeutic aspect of riding. On 2 wheels since 1971, I LOVE to ride.

I'm close to booking with Edelweiss. Is anybody better?

We prefer to ride 2 up.

Thanks.

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Hey Rob, don't know much about Edelweiss in Aust. but they have good reviews in Europe. Diet coke is OK, but we reside in the middle of some really grand wine country, after riding of course. Let me know when you plan to come on down, and Rena and I would love to show you around. Prior to March '07.
PM me when we can help out. Cheers.

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