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post #1 of 14 Old Jul 31st, 2013, 6:20 am Thread Starter
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Anyone discover if you can hard wire these units to be automatic so you can bury them under the seat?

The manuals don't talk about if they will turn off automatically when I turn off the bike, and that I don't have to touch it after it is set up. I really want it out of sight and want to put it under the seat.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

That's certainly not their intended mode of use.

Hardwiring them would be rocket surgery.

They won't turn off automatically. You'd need to pop the seat each time and turn them on/off, though they might last a fair time on standby.

I take it you're not using the SR10 for a two-way radio.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

That is too bad, Looks like I stick with autocom then. No auto ON/OFF or hardwire bike power makes it worthless to me. I hate the handlebar acne of devices everywhere and taking 20 minutes to start the bike and turn each thing on again.

I was going to use a SR10 for the two way radio and Cellphone with GPS audio over it and a SM10 for music with GPS audio over it (gps audio y cable to do this)

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

The SR10 can be turned on and off with the ignition if you use the cigarette socket charger and have that plugged in. A bit of rocket surgery could make it hardwired into the bike. I'm not sure if the SM10 can be handled in the same manner.

While I'm a big Sena fan, I wouldn't want to have two devices on the bike, possibly plugged into added cigarette sockets or with hacked wiring, when the Autocom you now have will do it and be out of sight.

Sena stuff is intended to be mounted in the open and run off of batteries. They don't do hidden stuff very well ;^).

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

As Tom indicated the SR10 will power on and off with the ignition when powered with the supplied 12V cigarette lighter power plug. I just installed one on my RT to use with a CB radio so that I can communicate with the GW riders that I ride with. It works great. I'm not sure if the SM10 will operate like that. My suggestion is to contact Tech Support at SENA. I've submitted questions a couple of times and they have been very helpful witha response, typically within less than 24 hours.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

I hard wired the SM10 using the cig lighter that came with it. I cut the cig adapter and crimped terminals that I connected to leads that come from a BlueSea fuse box. The fuse box is triggered via a relay connected to the rear seat heater. I wnet that way because I am also powering the radar detector and the Zumo via the fuse box.
I don't usually bother to power off the SM10 because even it the battery runs out the unit gets energized as soon as I turn the ignition ON.
Sena now makes a direct power cable harness so you won't have to do "surgery" with the cg lighter adapter cable.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

I got one last year just before CCR. It works, kind of. It doesn't like to fully pair with Scala, you will need to press the the pair button once in a while, or cycle power. I also suggested on the SM10 feedback web site that they make the power on button a 3 position switch. Pos 1 would be off, Pos 2 would be normal on, pos 3 would be on only if 12v was external on. The the scala would be OK to run with it. On another blue tooth hands free I had the same problem in my truck. What I did was remove the battery in the unit. So the unit would only power up with external power. This did the trick and had no problems with it since. Maybe the SM10 battery lead could be clipped and then it might be able to run the way most people would like it.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

I installed an SR 10 awhile back along with a Midland CB on my 2011 RT. I hard wired it to a switched circuit from a CENTEH fuse block. I does turn on/off with the ignition but there is an problem. The 12V power circuit is apparently picking up electrical noise from the bike and triggers the SR10 to connect to the headset as if it was receiving a signal from the CB. The SMH 10 head set apparently gives this connection path priority and therefore prevents any other device, like GPS or bike audio, from communicating with the headset. Until I figure out how to "filter" the noise I have disconnected the 12V supply and run the dongle off of it's internal battery. That of course means I have to manually turn it on and off for each use so rather than installing it under the seat I just store it in my small tank bag where it's readily available. I have a USB port hardwired to the battery and use that to keep the SR 10 battery charged when not in use.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

To Lynn's point I added a noise filter on each device hard wired to the SM10, the Zumo 665 and the Escort 8500 (now replaced with a Beltronics).
This took care of the noise.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

Don't think there is a standard noise filter?
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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

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To Lynn's point I added a noise filter on each device hard wired to the SM10, the Zumo 665 and the Escort 8500 (now replaced with a Beltronics).
This took care of the noise.
Gilles, wondering what type of filter you used? I tried a couple of snap together Radio Shack ferrite core RF chokes on the 12V power line without success.

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Gilles, wondering what type of filter you used? I tried a couple of snap together Radio Shack ferrite core RF chokes on the 12V power line without success.
Hi Lynn, I used a PAC-SNI with 3.5 mm connectors http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-iPod-Zune-MP3-Ground-Loop-Noise-Isolator-Filter-/300960046875?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46129d df1b .
I used one inline between the Escort and the SM10, and one inline between the Zumo 665 and the SM10. It made a world of difference.

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Re: Sena SR10 and SM10

Ziggy, you link gave me error messages, but I did a little cut and paste and came up with this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAC-SNI-1-3-...9ddf1b&vxp=mtr
Is this same one you're referring to?

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Ziggy, you link gave me error messages, but I did a little cut and paste and came up with this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAC-SNI-1-3-...9ddf1b&vxp=mtr
Is this same one you're referring to?
Yes Jeff, that's the one. Sorry about the link...

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