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anyone use earbuds instead of helmet speakers with a sena system

I can barely hear the radio with the helmet speakers and no earplugs

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Klisph x10. Quiet enough to use at the gun range. https://www.eglobalcentral.com/klips.../product/15084
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I had used the Sena speakers for years, then tried the make it yourself era buds which were better but hurt the eras a little. So 2yrs ago at the Motorcycle show up here in the North I splurged on some custom made 2 drivers ear buds....I must say they are great...$300 but I love em'

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I've been using "Arizona Al" custom molded earbuds for several years, but not with Sena BT system.
For my current RT, they're wired into the BMW OEM audio as described here and subsequent...



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I am surprised those heavy cable do not hurt your ear lobes

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I'm running a Shoei Neotech and a Sena with helmet speakers streaming from my iPhone. Even with ear plugs, I have no problem hearing the music and I don't even have the volume at full.

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anyone use earbuds instead of helmet speakers with a sena system

I can barely hear the radio with the helmet speakers and no earplugs

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i have speakers. in order to drown out windnoise, i wear the standard -30db earplugs u buy in HomeDepot. seems to work great and i can hear the music just fine. I use pandora off of my fone. THe BT on the camhead radios arent so great, so the sound quality blows. I just have the sena BT'ed to my phone.

one thing that may help is making sure the speakers rest up against your ears. the Sena system should come with some foam-velcro pads htat can make the speakers sit tighter on you.
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+1 on the foam pads that the Sena comes with. Om my Shoei for me they are not needed but I had to put them in my dual spot helmet as the speakers were to far from my ears to hear any type of sound quality
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I am surprised those heavy cable do not hurt your ear lobes
Ah, but those "heavy cables" aren't cables but instead, hollow air tubes. The joy in this style of earbud is that the "speakers" are within the pod located (when worn) at upper mid chest level with audio piped to the earbuds from there. Audio frequency range is reduced somewhat, i.e. cropped lower and upper frequency ranges which I actually find less fatiguing during long rides. Secondary benefit of this style is no delicate wires to break when plugs are worn under a helmet. If an air tube pulls free, simply gently reinsert it into the Dremel drilled hole...

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bought here in the UK. They often come to our club to make ear impressions then send out made-to-measure in a few weeks. The wires are thin and virtually weightless.

The Sena 20s speakers were too quiet for me so I bought a pair of soundears with a short cable then have another short cable permanently in the Sena. On the first attempt the sound was too loud on even the softest Sena adjustment but Ultimate did something to reduce it slightly - now it is perfect.
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Ah, but those "heavy cables" aren't cables but instead, hollow air tubes. The joy in this style of earbud is that the "speakers" are within the pod located (when worn) at upper mid chest level with audio piped to the earbuds from there. Audio frequency range is reduced somewhat, i.e. cropped lower and upper frequency ranges which I actually find less fatiguing during long rides. Secondary benefit of this style is no delicate wires to break when plugs are worn under a helmet. If an air tube pulls free, simply gently reinsert it into the Dremel drilled hole...
Very clever. Never have seen that before.

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I'm running a Shoei Neotech and a Sena with helmet speakers streaming from my iPhone. Even with ear plugs, I have no problem hearing the music and I don't even have the volume at full.
Same here with XM or ipod. I did use the thicker pads behind the speakers to get them closer to the ears and I always wear ear plugs.

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Hands down the best I've ever used. Fit well, great sound, short sturdy cables.
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anyone use earbuds instead of helmet speakers with a sena system

I can barely hear the radio with the helmet speakers and no earplugs

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I've had a couple different earbuds and loved the ER6i, but they are no longer available.

I just picked up a new set from Richard at RKA.
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The "S-Plugs" are available in two variants, a single driver version and a two driver version. Think "driver" as in separate speakers. I have the single driver version ($135) and they work great! I am pretty picky about the quality of the audio I listen to, but these S-Plugs do a good job. They have soft silicone flanges that seal well and the electronics are inside the flange core, so nothing sticks out and interferes with the helmet fit. I just returned from a 3 day mini tour and wore the S-Plugs during 350+ mile days with no issue at all. Another side benefit is the shorter cord that doesn't get all tangled up. And they don't block out all the outside noise, so you can hear the important stuff and minimize the wind noise.
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anyone use earbuds instead of helmet speakers with a sena system

I can barely hear the radio with the helmet speakers and no earplugs

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Shoei Neotech here too, autocom, helmet speakers. Wear foam earplugs, no problem with hearing music at all speeds.

Just a thought, perhaps someone else mentioned it - if your speakers aren't located properly in your helmet, even if they're just a small bit off, that can cause a real significant drop in what you hear. Mine are positioned with velcro, and it's pretty easy to experiment moving them around a bit - including moving them "in" to get closer to your ear.

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Im going to move them around to see if that helps - I prefer not to use ear buds

I thought it might be the volume control on the blutooth

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J&M elite BT head set!

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It can be the amount of power entering the Bluetooth from the source, but most likely as pointed out, adjust the speakers in. Made a huge difference on mine.


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Toss the speakers, I've tried em all. Just get good earbuds. If u have to turn them up to beat wind noise or wear ear plugs, your doing more harm than good.
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Toss the speakers, I've tried em all. Just get good earbuds. If u have to turn them up to beat wind noise or wear ear plugs, your doing more harm than good.
total BS. The earplugs are for road & wind noise not the music...Duh?

The J&M elite Speakers are amazingly good...and I am a professional musician!

Earbuds illegal in my state and many others!

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Custom molded ear buds.

There is no other way. And I too am a professional musician.

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Custom molded ear buds.

There is no other way. And I too am a professional musician.
I own top notch 6 driver per ear, custom molded in-ears for my wireless in-ear system for gigging.

Don't need them in my helmet! And I wouldn't want them. You have to be able to hear. I use -31db foam ear plugs which cut out the ugly road & wind noise, but I can hear sirens and other surrounding vehicles and horns.

The J&M Elite Bluetooth headset is excellent!

Once again....In ears are illegal in many states. Of course you won't get caught until there is an accident and you are open to liability!

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Once I removed the foam from my Neotech ear pads I could hear my Senna below full volume at any speed. I used a new razor blade to trim off the foam from the back side.

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I just a set of earbuds and just plug in to the SENA unit. Works great and blocks the wind noise.
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total BS. The earplugs are for road & wind noise not the music...Duh?

The J&M elite Speakers are amazingly good...and I am a professional musician!

Earbuds illegal in my state and many others!
I've tried the best helmet speakers available just to not have wires to deal with, speakers do work when going slow but on the highway they suck. Earbuds are legal in my state, u still hear other noises and great music. Once u try them there's no going back.
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Same here with XM or ipod. I did use the thicker pads behind the speakers to get them closer to the ears and I always wear ear plugs.
+2! Sena and Neotech with just the Sena speakers properly located. One thing to check is the volume into the BT. In my case my iPhone volume is cranked up so that the Sena has more control of the volume.

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I've tried the best helmet speakers available
I find this statement extremely doubtful!

So you have tried the J&M Elite Speakers?

I can hear mine clearly and distortion free at ALL speeds!

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