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post #1 of 17 Old May 28th, 2007, 10:09 pm Thread Starter
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MCCruise.com electronic cruise control installed

First the disclaimers: I do not have any affiliation with MCCruise.com, I have used their products on many bikes over the years.

They have built many fine cruise control kits, I have personally installed them on a BMW K1200RS, Honda Valkyrie and a Yamaha FJR. Their engineering of the kits and the instructions provided for specific bikes are thorough and well sorted.

This weekend I installed their new kit for the R1200GS(and A). As I have found in the past the kit was complete and there were very few 'gotchas' in the installation. The kit was designed for a bike sold in the Australian market, which does not have a charcoal canister. The servo location as provided in the kit would interfere with the placement of the canister. I had already removed mine since the canister also interfered with the reservoir on my Ohlins rear shock. A simple modification to the supplied mounting bracket allowed to mount the servo lower and rearward from their original mounting location. I cut the supplied bracket, inverted it and mounted the servo on a lower frame tube. Though it is close to the exhaust, it doesn't get very warm at all and shouldn't pose a problem.






The control switch assy mounts to the left hand mirror mount.



Their CIU (Cable Interface Unit) replaces the stock cable splitter and allows the interface of the cruise servo to the throttle bodies.




The electronic control unit mounts under the front of the gas tank. A magnetic speed pickup is mounted to the front right caliper bolt and small magnets are put in the heads of the right-hand disc mounting screws. Electrical connections are made to accessory power, right-hand coil trigger lead, the taillight and the battery negative. A pressure switch replaces the banjo bolt at their front master cylinder for additional safety in case there is a failure in the brake light circuit. Vacuum to the servo comes from both throttle bodies.

The installation took me about 4 hours, including bleeding the front brake circuit and synchronizing the throttle bodies. While the kit should not be attempted by the mechanically challenged, I believe it is a kit which can be installed by any reasonably competent amateur mechanic.

After some simple adjustments and initial calibration I took the bike on a road test. The cruise control worked flawlessly and safely. Application of either brake disengaged the cruise control. Disengaging the clutch caused the engine speed to climb for just a moment, until the cruise control detected the condition and disengaged the cruise control. The speed sets instantly and held the speed within a couple of miles per hour from 40 to 100mph . Resume provided smooth and reasonable acceleration back to the originally set speed.

My description of the installation is fairly condensed. Tony and Frank at mccruise spend a lot of time and effort designing these installations and I don't want to share too many of the techniques they created to interface their cruise control to the bike. If you are interested in more information please contact them at [email protected] or visit their website at www.mccruise.com. There is a short video describing the product here.

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Randy! Thanks for the detailed pictures of your cruise control installation. I have two questions. Is there any place that you can see mounting the actuator on a GSA without having to remove the charcoal cannister and if you do remove it will that void the warranty? Thanks for your insight. Ron
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Randy! Thanks for the detailed pictures of your cruise control installation. I have two questions. Is there any place that you can see mounting the actuator on a GSA without having to remove the charcoal cannister and if you do remove it will that void the warranty? Thanks for your insight. Ron
I think the new location I chose for the servo would work, if you relocated the canister a little higher. I do not believe the removal of the canister would void the warranty, but in the US it is a violation of EPA regulations. Those regulations are enforced strictly in California, and much more casually or not at all in other states. I am not sure about Canada.

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I had Ft Myers BMW install mine (they are now a MC Cruise dealer). I got my bike back Saturday afternoon, and that cruise control is every bit as good as I'd hoped. BMW is REALLY missing the boat by not offering cruise on the GS series. Had I not known that this was soon to become available, I'd never have purchased my GS. What a shame that would have been! The cruise does make a great machine even better, at least for my use.

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Very nice write up and pictures, just one more thing to order for the GS.

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I had Ft Myers BMW install mine (they are now a MC Cruise dealer). I got my bike back Saturday afternoon, and that cruise control is every bit as good as I'd hoped. BMW is REALLY missing the boat by not offering cruise on the GS series. Had I not known that this was soon to become available, I'd never have purchased my GS. What a shame that would have been! The cruise does make a great machine even better, at least for my use.
Did Ft. Myers BMW leave the charcoal cannister on, or did they find another place to put the actuator?
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First the disclaimers: I do not have any affiliation with MCCruise.com, I have used their products on many bikes over the years.
(and A). As I have found in the past the kit was complete and there were very few 'gotchas' in the installation. The kit was designed for a bike sold in the Australian market, which does not have a charcoal canister. The servo location as provided in the kit would interfere with the placement of the canister. I had already removed mine .
Randy I sent them pics of our gs explaining the issue with the canister being in the way, we do not want to remove ours. besides it being illegal to remove we have no gas smell in our garge with 5 motorcycles in it. They said they wanted it mounted high so water does not effect the unit, so my question is, did they water proof the unit so it can be mounted lower?

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Did Ft. Myers BMW leave the charcoal cannister on, or did they find another place to put the actuator?
another question is why not move the Canister,

MC Cruise does NOT want the actualtor being drenched in water, that is why they were putting it up high where the canister is

at least that is the e-mails I got from them

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Did Ft. Myers BMW leave the charcoal cannister on, or did they find another place to put the actuator?
The cannister was already gone. I took it off the first week that I had it, while adding extra lighting and such.

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Wink FT Myers MCCruise installation

Rueben, how much did Ft Myers BMW charge for the install and how long did it take. I'll be coming to Florida later in the summer. Thanks, Ron Ray
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Rueben, how much did Ft Myers BMW charge for the install and how long did it take. I'll be coming to Florida later in the summer. Thanks, Ron Ray
Ron, sorry to hiijack your thread, this is a little test to see if I can quote & post Randy's Cruise Control page - looks like it works fine here ??

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Randy I sent them pics of our gs explaining the issue with the canister being in the way, we do not want to remove ours. besides it being illegal to remove we have no gas smell in our garge with 5 motorcycles in it. They said they wanted it mounted high so water does not effect the unit, so my question is, did they water proof the unit so it can be mounted lower?

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Replying from the Yukon. They did not. I removed the aluminum front cover and rotated it so that the vent hole was down. I also angled the nose of the actuator down. We had discussed using some RTV to seal the cover where it mates with the actuator, as well as where the cable enters the actuator, but time didn't allow for that. I have ridden for 15 days through rain, mud, snow and insects and the cruise control has been flawless. I will disassemble and take a look at the actuator when I return home later this month, but I would really not be concerned about water. It will get as much off the rear tire in any position. High is not dry - I promise.

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Replying from the Yukon. They did not. I removed the aluminum front cover and rotated it so that the vent hole was down. I also angled the nose of the actuator down. We had discussed using some RTV to seal the cover where it mates with the actuator, as well as where the cable enters the actuator, but time didn't allow for that. I have ridden for 15 days through rain, mud, snow and insects and the cruise control has been flawless. I will disassemble and take a look at the actuator when I return home later this month, but I would really not be concerned about water. It will get as much off the rear tire in any position. High is not dry - I promise.
thank randy, I really didn't see a big issue anyhow there is no electronic components inside to get wet,

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Rueben, how much did Ft Myers BMW charge for the install and how long did it take. I'll be coming to Florida later in the summer. Thanks, Ron Ray
They charged "list" (I think), which was about 700.00, plus some shipping (I was in a hurry to get it installed for an upcoming trip, so I specified air freight).

Install labor was fifteen hours, which included study of the install manual (a "mountain" of information), very careful and through checkout to make sure everything was safe and perfectly functional, an oil and filter change, wash and detail the bike, and a checkover from front to rear.

I already had a LOT of stuff installed that they needed to work around, and this was their first install. I'd expect that future installs would be around ten hours, but who knows. I have no complaints, it was worth every penny.

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They charged "list" (I think), which was about 700.00, plus some shipping (I was in a hurry to get it installed for an upcoming trip, so I specified air freight).

Install labor was fifteen hours, which included study of the install manual (a "mountain" of information), very careful and through checkout to make sure everything was safe and perfectly functional, an oil and filter change, wash and detail the bike, and a checkover from front to rear.

I already had a LOT of stuff installed that they needed to work around, and this was their first install. I'd expect that future installs would be around ten hours, but who knows. I have no complaints, it was worth every penny.
15 hours labor? how much is thier labor rate it hads to be around 60 or more an hour I bet wow!
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15 hours labor? how much is thier labor rate it hads to be around 60 or more an hour I bet wow!
Their labor rate is the same as my local Honda (and Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki) dealer. I think its around 80.00 an hour. Its posted, but it changes from time to time. So:
Cruise = $700.00
Labor = $80.00 per hour
The freedom of stress on my aged right wrist joints = Priceless

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Their labor rate is the same as my local Honda (and Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki) dealer. I think its around 80.00 an hour. Its posted, but it changes from time to time. So:
Cruise = $700.00
Labor = $80.00 per hour
The freedom of stress on my aged right wrist joints = Priceless
heheh, yea I agree about the wrst joints, the biggest thing that is funny,
BMW could add that on the bike for practically nothing, charge 700-1000 make a huge profit on the factory installed unit and make a ton of customers happy as can be!
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