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post #1 of 60 Old Dec 8th, 2012, 8:17 pm Thread Starter
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I just don't want to spend $600 on a GPS for my RT when I can get an auto GPS for so much cheaper. I wonder what models others have had good luck with. I know the unit itself wouldnt be waterproof, but think I could find a case that is, or a baggie? What about vibrations on the RT? Would this cause problems? Or should I scrap this idea and just save longer for a motorcycle GPS. (I do want one that I could also use in my car)
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One of the NY guys that comes down to the Smokies every year, Harold, has had a Nuvi mounted on his LT for the last three years. It has done just fine and has even gotten wet. Cheap enough you can get a new one if it craps out. Give him a PM @ Harold-NY.

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I just don't want to spend $600 on a GPS for my RT when I can get an auto GPS for so much cheaper. I wonder what models others have had good luck with. I know the unit itself wouldnt be waterproof, but think I could find a case that is, or a baggie? What about vibrations on the RT? Would this cause problems? Or should I scrap this idea and just save longer for a motorcycle GPS. (I do want one that I could also use in my car)
These may work for you. I've used in rain and cold in motorcycling, hiking and many forms of travel. Water proof and durable for sure.


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One of the NY guys that comes down to the Smokies every year, Harold, has had a Nuvi mounted on his LT for the last three years. It has done just fine and has even gotten wet. Cheap enough you can get a new one if it craps out. Give him a PM @ Harold-NY.
This sounds pretty good. John, would you happen to know which model it is?
Also, if it happened to get stolen, one wouldn't be out near as much. I'd also attempt to factor in the chances of being caught in the rain. I also suggest getting a fairly recent one, if not new. I bought a model no longer supported (without realizing it), so now I'll be SOL if/when it decides to take a dump on me. That's something one doesn't want to find out the hard way after spending several hundred dollars for the unit.

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+1 on the Nuvi 550...be aware that there's no Bluetooth.

When looking at less expensive alternatives to the Zumos, be sure and note if the units will allow custom routes...not all of the cheaper ones do (assuming that feature is important to you).

Another approach you might want to consider is using one of the smart phone-based apps. I use GPS Drive, have used the TomTom app with good success, and of course Apple is (in)famous for their new app. I've heard great things about Navigon, although I have not used it myself.

None of these allow custom routes that I am aware of.

If you think about going the phone route, be sure to consider:
- power - GPS apps will drain your battery really fast
- heat - running the GPS apps constantly will make the phone heat up, which can be an issue if you're trying to put in something waterproof.

I made several long trips with my iPhone mounted on a RAM mount as my GPS device, and it worked reasonably well. I had to keep the display turned off during long stretches with no turns to keep the power drain manageable (even when plugged in, it would gradually discharge the battery with the display on all the time). And I would just stash it in the trunk if it started raining.

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I'll be installing a Nuvi 50 on my LT next weekend. I ordered a waterproof case for it for $13. I'm hoping to ride to Michigan for Christmas so hopefully I'll know soon how I like it. I'll still have my Street Pilot 2720 on for a backup.

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I have had a nuvi 2360 LMT for a few years, on my LT,
get a waterproof case from amazon to fit it and it will work fine. never had any issues with it getting wet etc.

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I've been using a Nuvi 765T for 4 years. This unit has the same functionality as the Zumo 660 but is not waterproof. Over the years it has been through rain storms (a zip lock makes if waterproof), off roading (vibrating the crap out of it), and has accepted custom routes to navigate me throughout the Southeast. However, these are no longer made and hard to come by. A full featured Nuvi may be an alternative.

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Nuvi50. Had it for a year. Perfect-all the necessary stuff. Took it to the UK and France last year-bought EuroMaps on Ebay for $64. Never got lost. Take it on trips-rental cars+++

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If at all possible,, please provide pictures to include the mount used. These all sound like great alternatives to the basic mc GPS units.

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I'm using one of the Garmin 2730 Streetpilots, which I like for the XM radio. I wish other manufacturers would incorporate this capability into their boxes.

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Garmi Nuvi 500 or 550 The only waterproof nuvi's
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In 2005 I had a BMW GPS on order for my R1200C. It did not arrive before I was leaving for Canada. I found a TomTom on Craig'sList for $100.00 and bought a Ram mount for it. I figured it would last my trip (maybe) and then I would replace it. I used it for 3 years, left it on the bike most of the time, took it off or placed a sandwich bag over it if it rained. It lasted about 25,000 miles and worked fine until it was stolen.

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All you guys have had better luck than me. I had a Nuvi 360 on my bike for a couple months and the vibration killed it. Wasn't under warranty, because not rated for a bike. Garmin was nice though, and swapped it out - I then went StreetPilot 2730, and use the Nuvi in my car..

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Garmi Nuvi 500 or 550 The only waterproof nuvi's
Yep, been running a Nuvi 500 (Oz version) for the past couple of years. Motorcycle rated, waterproof.. just no audio out jack, but there's an easy enough hack for that if you need audio.

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Nuvi 550 ,waterproof and vibration proof.Swap mine out between motorcycle and snowmobile .Held up to abuse for about 3 years so far.

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Nuvi 550 ,waterproof and vibration proof.Swap mine out between motorcycle and snowmobile .Held up to abuse for about 3 years so far.
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I just bought a cheap Tom Tom with inexpensive mount that goes to my mirror mount hole ;or should say where them holes are on your handle bars;with a water proof case that came with mount.
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Bought a Nuvi 760 41/2 years ago. Hallzee warned me that it wouldn't last very long, which bummed me out. Recently it started giving me some trouble, and shopping for a new unit. The Nuvi's now don't have a 3.5 output to connect with the com system, so I'm forced to look at Zumo's. Santa, are you listening?

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Is it possible to turn off the Nuvi's "auto-recalculate"? I don't like units that decide to recalculate my route when I go off it.....I often do that, then select "recalculate" from the menu when I'm ready to go back to the orginal remaining route.

Other than that , the Nuvi 550 looks good....but so does my wife's Nuvi 1490t. I have been using Garmin StreetPilots 26/27/20xx for years, along with a 2006 BMW Nav III GPS that is great but it's screen might be too small once I change it's mount to the dash on my R1200RT. It had been on the steering head, low, but I want a larger tankbag and need to move it.

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if you happen to find one you like i would suggest you look at your local craigslist posting for it.....lots of cars being made with gps built in and alot of phones have gps now so theres alot of ppl selling on craiglist for alot cheaper


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if you happen to find one you like i would suggest you look at your local craigslist posting for it.....lots of cars being made with gps built in and alot of phones have gps now so theres alot of ppl selling on craiglist for alot cheaper
Good point and that never occured to me. I'm check it out.

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I used a TomTom XXL 550 LTM on my ride from Oregon to Georgia. I just put the suction cup plate above the stingray on my LT and put a tether on the mount in case it came loose (it didn't). If it started to rain I just disconnected the GPS from the mount and put it under the clear window on my tank bag. I couldn't always hear the voice prompts because I wear earplugs but I didn't have any problems.

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I just purchased a Nuvi 50 off of ebay for $80, but I am going to return it. I found out that you cannot transfer routes from your computer to the Nuvi 50 (and some other Nuvi models). I am going to search for the Nuvi 25xx series and see what I find. I will also be concerned about the screen brightness but will have to wait and see. This will be replacing my 2610 and outdated maps.

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Nuvi 1490 LMT. I love the 5 inch screen and you can pick them up for under $150 which includes lifetime map updates. If you use the factory power adapter cord you also get traffic updates.
Ram makes a really sturdy mounting cradle for it ($9.95) and I just use a ziplock bag when it rains. I opened the back of mine up and soldered an earphone jack to the speaker connections so now I get routing directions to my helmet.

I know it's not motorcycle specific but hey at that price I'll use it until it dies and if this happens when I'm travelling I can pick another one up at any Costco or Walmart.

I'm into season 3 with this setup and it still works like a charm.

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I ordered the Nuvi 2595 LMTHD through Costco. Costco has it for $199 with $30 off until June 24. I did not want to go above $150 for a non-motorcycle gps, but it sure beats paying $500+ for a Zumo! I do not know how the HD traffic will work.
Since I retired, I have not rode the bike as much as when I was working (should be the other way around!), so it should hold up. Once it comes in I will take a couple of pictures of both my old gps and the new one.

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OttawaJim, that sounds like an inexpensive setup, but have you used the baggie in any downpours during your three seasons of use? I really like the $10 cradle, and your point of easily getting a replacement is a good one.

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I use my iPhone 4 in a ram mount and navigon. Power lead to powerlet and audio lead to intercom unit.
Ziplock bag if it rains.
Have GPS, music and can even take phone calls.
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Nuvi 1490 ......
Ram makes a really sturdy mounting cradle for it ($9.95)...
I'm into season 3 with this setup and it still works like a charm.,,,
I bought a Nuvi 1490 for my GPS-challenged wife hoping it would be easier for her to use than her disastrous solo trip using my Garmin 2720 a few years ago. She found the 2720 confusing, but took to the 1490 quickly. I liked it well enough that I bought one also for my truck an as a backup for the saddle bag. Both are refurbs off eBay for about $120.

As an experiment, I rigged mu 1490 like you did using a RAM mount as a second GPS. I figured I would use that one in 2-D mode, zoomed out to about 5-8 miles, but continue to use my 27/28xx GPSs as primary used for routing using 3-D mode. Oddly enough, that 1490 kept losing power (it was plugged into a cigar lighter outlet). So the 1490 would ask "power lost, turn off?" about every 20-30 minutes. I also got some other error message, something about "serial connection". This is odd because I've used that same cigar lighter outlet many times for other things and it worked fine. Anyway, I decided not to pursue that experiment for other, non-power related issues.

In the car and truck, these units work well except occasionally their speed readout will "freeze" although the "internal speed" is apparently correct as the ETA is logical. Turning it off/on resets the speed readout every time.

I also intensely dislike the Basecamp software! I guess I'm an old fart who hates to learn new stuff, but I very much prefer Mapsource!

If I had to replace my 27/28xx GPSs, I'd not use a Nuvi, but search for a 26/27/28xx Garmin StreetPilot instead. I've gotten them for around $150....just have to keep searching to find one.

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I've got a Garmin 2720 that is mounted where the map light used to be. Its been there for about 5 years now. Very rarely gets any moisture on it since its protected pretty well by the windshield. I bought it for about $100 on buy.com....its called something else now. I've never covered it.

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OttawaJim, that sounds like an inexpensive setup, but have you used the baggie in any downpours during your three seasons of use? I really like the $10 cradle, and your point of easily getting a replacement is a good one.
One of the first times I used it was on a 4 hour+ ride in heavy rain. I just covered it with the ziplock bag held in place with a couple of elastic bands and the unit stayed dry and has worked flawlessly ever since. YMMV.
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How are you guys able to see the screen during the day? I have been chasing down an old use Zumo 500 to make it affordable but every car GPS I have tried is useless when the sun is out. I cant see the screen at all. While the Zumo on my friends bike is clear as day with the sun shining on it.

I would love to not spend $400 on a out of date Zumo and use one of these $99 throw away car gps's but I just cant find one that works in sunlight.
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How are you guys able to see the screen during the day?...I would love to not spend $400 on a out of date Zumo and use one of these $99 throw away car gps's but I just cant find one that works in sunlight.
Have you tried a hood/visor on your GPS? There's lots of pics on this forum of units with aftermarket hoods specifically made for certain models, and then there's the "homemade"/DIY ones. The used Streetpilot I purchased came with velcro along the top and sides, which I figured was for a removable hood. It should help up to a point until the sun's angle was too low.

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I've used three different non-weather rated GPSs, and have never had issues with vibration or rain/moisture (I put a baggie over it if it does more than sprinkle). Two Nuvi units (660 and 235), and a TomTom I won at a company Christmas party. It's a TomTom Via 1500 (1505?), and I was amazed to find it the best of the three I've owned. It has outstanding features and, best of all, you can customize the screen to show any combination of data you choose. The Garmin units won't let you do that. I got it free, including lifetime maps and traffic, but I think you can pick one up for under $150.00.

I just got a brand new K1600GTL that came with a NAV IV GPS (Garmin Zumo), and I am totally underwhelmed with it. I have no idea how they justify the cost of these things. It's just "OK". Glad it was a freebie promotion with the bike.

My brother has a Garmin Zumo 550, and likes my TomTom Via much better. Wishes he'd never spent the big bucks on the Zumo, and says so every time we ride together.

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Removed the stock GPS and added a cigar lighter on left side of dash inboard of the mirror and fabricated a small plate to match up with old GPS mount and installed a Magellan (7" wide) auto GPS. Have used it for approx four weeks and no problems.
Found it on Amazon (refurbished) for $109.00. Comes w/90 day guarantee.
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Sorry for this late posting, but I just got my new computer up and running. Attached are some pictures of both the old and new gps receivers. The old one is a Garmin 2610, and the new one is a Garmin Nuvi 2595 LMT.
I feel for the price you could not go wrong. The display is a little faded in direct sunlight, but so are the 550's and 665's. The new 3450 may be somewhat brighter, but then I would be paying at least three times more for it. The only suggestion I would make is to fabricate some kind of sun shade. I test rode my friends GTL and I can see why they have it so far forward, it is to protect it from the sun. Even at that, it was not very bright. I have a gallon size zip lock bag and will deal with the rain when it happens.
It has bluetooth but that is something I am not going to use. I cannot hear any voice commands, but I have never listened to them before on the 2610.
I like where it sits as I can look at it below my helmet visor, and it is in the same place as the 2610, well maybe a couple of inches higher. The only thing that it blocks on the instrument panel is the clock, but if I lean forward a little I will be able to see it.
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Sorry for this late posting, but I just got my new computer up and running. Attached are some pictures of both the old and new gps receivers. The old one is a Garmin 2610, and the new one is a Garmin Nuvi 2595 LMT.
I feel for the price you could not go wrong. The display is a little faded in direct sunlight, but so are the 550's and 665's. The new 3450 may be somewhat brighter, but then I would be paying at least three times more for it. The only suggestion I would make is to fabricate some kind of sun shade. I test rode my friends GTL and I can see why they have it so far forward, it is to protect it from the sun. Even at that, it was not very bright. I have a gallon size zip lock bag and will deal with the rain when it happens.
It has bluetooth but that is something I am not going to use. I cannot hear any voice commands, but I have never listened to them before on the 2610.
I like where it sits as I can look at it below my helmet visor, and it is in the same place as the 2610, well maybe a couple of inches higher. The only thing that it blocks on the instrument panel is the clock, but if I lean forward a little I will be able to see it.
Thanks for the photos. You have your GPS mounted in the same place I do. I have a Garmin/BMW Nav III, which is in the same case as your 2610. I also have a Garmi Nuvi 1490, which looks like the same size as your Nuvi. I mounted it once to see how it woule work, and noticed that it hid the clock also, but not a big deal. After the test with the Nuvi, I went back to just mounting the NavIII.....the Nuvi, even as a second GPS, didn't give me anything the Nav III didn't.....but then I usually have a map on the tank bag also.

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...It's a TomTom Via 1500 (1505?), and I was amazed to find it the best of the three I've owned. It has outstanding features and, best of all, you can customize the screen to show any combination of data you choose. The Garmin units won't let you do that.....
Actually, it is possible to customize what data is put on the screen (time to turn, distance to turn, clock, etc). I've done that on my Garmin 26/27/28xx models. But you are probably correct that it's easier and more intuitive to do on your Tom Tom (Rider?). Garmin seems to revel in making things difficult sometimes!

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Do any of the non-motorcycle type GPS units display OK in sunlight? Is the Navigator IV the same as the Zumo 660 or 665? I was told by a dealer that it was the 660, which doesn't have the XM capabilities. Also the BMW unit has the cradle with buttons on the left, which I don't believe I can get if I buy a regular Garmin branded one. Is that correct? Can I buy the cradle with the buttons separately, and will that work with a Garmin 665? I see also that BMW has put out a new GPS, the Navigator Adventure. It was mentioned in Rider Magazine, but I can find no mention of it being available here in the US, only in Europe. Here's a link from BMW's UK site. http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/news/?...article_id=806
Has anybody used a tablet for a gps on a bike? It would be nice to have the big screen of a tablet, instead of having to look at a little one all the time. It doesn't have to be a huge one either. I think a 7" or so would suffice. Now if only Google could overlay radar data on their maps, that would be great, as it would do what the 665 does without paying a subscription every month. By the way, does anybody know what the prices are for subscription for the XM radio and weather is for the 665? One would have been nice to have on my last trip, as I was dodging weather a lot and had to stop and check the radar on my phone periodically. It would be nice to have that right before me. I could mount my phone on the bike, but it is very hard to see in sunlight, plus the screen size is too small, which is why I was thinking of a tablet. One option I found that looks interesting is this, though it is a black and white screen. http://www.gizmag.com/earl-tablet-ba...urvival/27446/
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I think the BMW Adventure GPS is basically a rebranded Garmin Montana. The BMW version comes with a life time map allowing you to update the maps several times a year if you buy the Montana you have to buy the Street Map separately and I am not sure if a lifetime map is available.

I used my iPhone as my GPS on a month long trip that I just returned from on the weekend. The iPhone worked fine but I was fortunate that I only had rain on two riding days and only required a GPS on one of those. A sandwich bag kept the iPhone dry, as to visibility it was fine for me even when using the sun visor but I know different folks find they need brighter displays. Personally I think a tablet would be to big, you want the information to be concise so you don't have your eyes hunting the screen for relevant info but again that is personal preference.

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I think the BMW Adventure GPS is basically a rebranded Garmin Montana. The BMW version comes with a life time map allowing you to update the maps several times a year if you buy the Montana you have to buy the Street Map separately and I am not sure if a lifetime map is available.

I used my iPhone as my GPS on a month long trip that I just returned from on the weekend. The iPhone worked fine but I was fortunate that I only had rain on two riding days and only required a GPS on one of those. A sandwich bag kept the iPhone dry, as to visibility it was fine for me even when using the sun visor but I know different folks find they need brighter displays. Personally I think a tablet would be to big, you want the information to be concise so you don't have your eyes hunting the screen for relevant info but again that is personal preference.

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Not sure if that's the case as the Montana sells for a lot less. On the UK site that I referred to, it's listed at £565 which comes out to about $868 over here, while I see the Montana is priced at about $470 at several places.

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Navigator IV sells for $900 Garmin 650 sells for $650. So it is not such a big stretch that the Montana would sell for $800 with the rugged mount included plus the street mapping with lifetime updates and a BMW mark up. Seems believable to me but who knows.

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Are the processor in the I-phones fast enough to keep up with riding?

Can they handle music play back at the same time.
Also handle a phone call?

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Are the processor in the I-phones fast enough to keep up with riding?

Can they handle music play back at the same time.
Also handle a phone call?

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I don't know about an iPhone, but I've used CoPilot Live on my Android phone before and it worked fine, even with playing music back at the same time. The screen wasn't very bright however, and a little too small. Google maps also works pretty good.

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I don't know about an iPhone, but I've used CoPilot Live on my Android phone before and it worked fine, even with playing music back at the same time. The screen wasn't very bright however, and a little too small. Google maps also works pretty good.
Thanks Tony for the info about CoPilot Live. I checked out their site, and the product looks cheap enough to give it a try. Doesn't seem like it will work on Macs, but I'll contact them and see.

Re: the brightness of various GPS screens, how do the various smartphones/ipads/tablets compare? I assume the larger the screen, the better, but I'm thinking of something w/ a 7 inch. Anyone have any thoughts?

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Thanks Tony for the info about CoPilot Live. I checked out their site, and the product looks cheap enough to give it a try. Doesn't seem like it will work on Macs, but I'll contact them and see.

Re: the brightness of various GPS screens, how do the various smartphones/ipads/tablets compare? I assume the larger the screen, the better, but I'm thinking of something w/ a 7 inch. Anyone have any thoughts?
Screens are rated in "nits" or candela per square meter (cd/m2). The minimum to be considered sunlight readable is 500 nits I believe.

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An out of date iphone 3G is 50X faster than the best GPS you can buy. motorcycle GPS's are based on technology from 10 years ago (actually garmin's entire line is based on out of date technology)

Si if you get an iphone with a lifeproof case and mount clip, you can do what you want and have it waterproof ... Sadly you can not charge the iphone while keeping it waterproof.

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Screens are rated in "nits" or candela per square meter (cd/m2). The minimum to be considered sunlight readable is 500 nits I believe.
Is this conversation considered "nit picking"?

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An out of date iphone 3G is 50X faster than the best GPS you can buy. motorcycle GPS's are based on technology from 10 years ago (actually garmin's entire line is based on out of date technology)

Si if you get an iphone with a lifeproof case and mount clip, you can do what you want and have it waterproof ... Sadly you can not charge the iphone while keeping it waterproof.
That's good to know. I'm always learning something new here.

Learning about nits is also interesting, but I don't recall ever seeing this detail listed in any manufacturer's printed specs for their devices.

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Thanks for the info Tim. I tried using a new Asus Nexus tablet for GPS, nope.
Used it on the internet via WIFI, drive crazzy, finally used it for music playback vis blue tooth, sounded good, cud stop music and then restart it at the same place, used the graphic equalizer setting for LT speakers and then head phones. But it would occasionally choke on play back and after a couple of hours got hot and then signal wud drop out.

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