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post #1 of 12 Old May 28th, 2008, 2:51 pm Thread Starter
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Zumo audio into BMW com

Does anyone know the pinout of the BMW supplied GPS cable, part number 71607687850? I can (have, actually, for now) route the Zumo audio into the com Aux, but then I don't get the mike override functions, and can't listen to the factory supplied radio/CD. I'd like to attach a mini plug to the end of this cable and run the Zumo audio where it was designed to go. There's two connectors one with yellow/ white and one with red/purple/black.
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Re: Zumo audio into BMW com

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What year model bike do you have and which of the BMW Comm systems are on it. I might be able to help if I know.

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I have a 2007 K12LT, with a V.O.I.C.E II com system pre-wired for BMW NAV II GPS
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I have a 2007 K12LT, with a V.O.I.C.E II com system pre-wired for BMW NAV II GPS
I am very familiar with the older J&M built Comm system that came in the LTE's, but not at all up on the newer styles. Hopefully someone will chime in here for you.

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2000 LTC 90,600 miles KIA (new)
2003 LTE 164,188 miles Silver (Purchased with 1687)
2008 R1200RT 176,196 miles (Purchased with 16458)
2017 R1200RT 84,612 miles (new)
Total BMW miles 497,451
1982 GL1100 rode 84108 miles (bought with 12012 sold 96120)
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Does anyone know the pinout of the BMW supplied GPS cable, part number 71607687850? I can (have, actually, for now) route the Zumo audio into the com Aux, but then I don't get the mike override functions, and can't listen to the factory supplied radio/CD. I'd like to attach a mini plug to the end of this cable and run the Zumo audio where it was designed to go. There's two connectors one with yellow/ white and one with red/purple/black.
This may be redundant, but I posted this same link to the other thread you mentioned the need for the connector pin layout in case you missed it: http://home.socal.rr.com/diverhank/S...edFeatures.htm

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Re: Zumo audio into BMW com

Thanks Jim,

The pinout helped. See my post "Zumo 550 solved".

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I am very familiar with the older J&M built Comm system that came in the LTE's, but not at all up on the newer styles. Hopefully someone will chime in here for you.

Ron
I have a 2004 LT with the J&M made com system (BCIII). Do you know how to connect the Zumo into the radio as asked by the OP?
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Re: Zumo audio into BMW com

Maybe someone can help me with my new (to me) 2006 1200RT.

Mine has the BMW Comm system, the BMW Navigator III GPS, and also the BMW Radio system.

The BMW radio has a selection for Radio, CD, and AUX - maybe others. I thought if I could figure out where the AUX input was, I could plug in my Roady XT and listen to XM radio through the speakers on the radio (not the headset).
Coming out of the CD bay aka glove box aka oddiments box is a cable with a 3.5mm male plug on it. I thought that was my solution, but I connected that to an MP3 player and no sound came from the radio speakers when AUX was selected.

I was told that 3.5 cable actually goes to the COM system AUX, which I have never used and probably never will. I heard the GPS audio also goes to the COM system's AUX. In other words, I'd have to use a helmet with speakers to listen to XM or MP3 plugged into the AUX line - same for the GPS.

Now this just makes no sense whatsoever! I can't believe there is no AUX input somewhere on the BMW radio. I know I'm not the only guy who wants to listen to an MP3 player coming through the BMW radio....

Anyone have an solutions? I'd really like to not use helmet speakers.

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Re: Zumo audio into BMW com

If it's the same as the LT audio (not comm) system, there is an input connector on the back of the radio that will allow the sound to output through the audio system speakers (the cable to do that is a BMW automobile part # 82 11 0 149 389. readily available for about $40), but it's my understanding that the comm system uses that connector, making it impossible to use both the comm system and the audio system "aux" input function.

FWIW I have the audio from my Zumo +XM going through the audio system Aux connector using the cable referenced above: it works fine, but I use an Autocom intercom rather than a BMW comm system.
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Re: Zumo audio into BMW com

Gents,

I have a 2005 K1200LT w/ factory GPS prewire and NO comm system. Just had my Garmin SP 2610 stolen. I used it w/ their mount on my LT and used visual cues w/ no audio. Am sold on buying a Zumo 550 and have seen the other posts touting it as one of the best, but my question is:

Is there a way to take the audio out plug from the Zumo and have it come through my speakers? Again, no COMM system on the bike.

Thanks,
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Bob;

You sure can do that. That's the BMW part I mentioned above: # 82 11 0 149 389. (Try www.bavauto.com or just google on "82 11 0 149 389". You'll find it.)

It's not particularly difficult. There's a thread complete with pictures describing the process here: http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8680

He doesn't mention it, but there are a total of 6 connectors that you'll need ot disconnect in order to free the stingray. They're pretty obvious. The antenna connector simply pulls apart, the big round one requires a 1/4 twist (clockwise as I recall) and then a straight pull to release it. The other 4 have tabs at the side that must be lifted before pulling the connector straight back.

Although it can probably be done without removing the radio from the stingray, it's easier if you at least completely release all of the mounting screws: the two holding the plastic flap and the nut on the bottom plate that secures the bracket on the back end of the radio. Look at it carefully and it all becomes clear. To make life easy you may also want to disconnect the wire to the radio buttons: the gray lever swings back and down and released the connector.

All of that sounds harder than it is. It's pretty much intuitive once you look at it.

Once you've installed the auxiliary cable to the radio, you just need a male/male 3.5 mm stereo patch cord of the proper length to connect the Zumo. Where that will go, of course, depends on where you mount the unit.

Once caution: the audio output from the Zumo is not amplified so the volume will be very low compared to the radio or CD player, and really too low for decent use on the road. The solution is an in-line amplifier. Radio Shack sells one called Boosteroo for about $29. It is battery operated and is a fixed gain. Alternatively there is www.electric-avenues.com Amplirider which is powered by the bike and has an adjustable gain. I've been using Boosteroo while waiting to install an Amplirider: I BELIEVE that the amplirider will be a much better solution in that it will allow me to set the gain to match the other inputs on the audio system (radio, CD player) so that the volume control on the bike doesn't have to be readjusted when switching between them. I haven't had time to install it yet, but I should know the answer to that in about 2 weeks.
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Bob, I don't know if you've gotten around tot he Zumo instal yet, but just finished adding the Amplirider that I mentioned as the alternative to the Boosteroo. It's powered by the bike as opposed to batter, and has an adjustable gain.

It works great! I strongly recommend adding one at the same time you tackle the Aux cable project to avoid having to tear into the audio system twice. The unit itself fits up under the left side of the stingray nicely, and the remote volume control on mine is riding in the oddments box.

If you want to avoid having a lot of extra cable length lying around it's the perfect location. The aux cable goes into the output jack, the Zumo into one of the three input jacks. It's a lot easier to shorten the aux cable than it is to make a custom length stereo patch cord to go between the Zumo and the amp. If you're going to the BMW mount on the stingray a stock 1 ft cord will be almost perfect.
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