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Shoei X 11 Helmet Report and Question

I just took delivery of a new Shoei X 11 Full Face Helmet (Anthracite, Large). Ordered online from http://www.helmetshop.com/. Paid $432 with free shipping (quite a discount over list or other retail locations that ranged from mid-$500's to a mind numbing $700 !!(A Honda dealer in NJ).

The HelmetShop sent the helmet in three days from Florida to New York, via UPS.

I must say I am very happy with the helmet. It looks and feels like a quality piece. Everything fits and works well. It is beautiful. It is light. A very nice fit to my previously Arai Signet GT shod head. I especially like the removable lining for cleaning (my main reason for replacing the Arai which is three years old is that the lining stinks even after cleaning with special helmet cleaner.

The face shield has detents at 7 lettings and doesn't crash down from the wind. It can be locked down, and had a convenient lever to 'crack' it open for demisting. Shields seem to cost less than Arai. The shield can be removed by pressing down on two small levers, without the 'cracking' sound of the Arai.

Most notable feature is the ventilation. This is the first helmet I have owned (Shoei RF900, Arai Signet GT, BMW System 4) where I can actually feel the air circulating inside. With all the vents open, I actually felt a draft up on the top of my head, strong enough to tickle a bit, but nice, especially considering the hot weather we have had lately. With a Cee Bailey 2, -2 alll the way down the breeze is good enough to feel comfortable at temperatures that had me sweating in the Arai.

The aerodynamics are good enough that I am comfortable riding with the shield all the way down at highway speeds up to 70 MPH without annoying buffeting, which I did not enjoy with the Arai. The System 4 seems to have good aero properties too.

The helmet is not quiet, especially with all the vents open. You can hear the wind wooshing through the vents. It is louder than the Arai or System 4.This improves if you close some vents, so o rest of season touring should be OK. Since I get better venting with the open vents I don't mind having to wear earplugs to control the roar. I wear the plugs whenever highway riding is planned.

I tried on several helmets at retail outlets near my home before buying online. I even told some of them what I was doing, and asked if they would match the online store price. No one would. No one minded my trying helmets on, and most spent time talking about various helmets they carried. I tried on Scorpion (400 and 700), Nolan, Arai Profile, AGV, HJC.

I see that Shoei did not participate in the helmet impact comparison testing that is referenced elsewhere on this site. My feeling is that any helmet is better than none, and since most will pass the DOT/Snell/Euro testing, that I might as well pick the one that fits best and appears to well put together.

If you've read this far, I have one question. I need to install a headset and mic for my Baehr intercom, and wanted to know if anyone has done this and can advise as to success/issues. This helmet looks so nice I am hesitant to tear into it for the install. I am considering leaving it 'Silent' for a peaceful ride, but then the pillion/wife will have to jab me in the ribs to make me slow down, stop for breaks and food.....

P.S. I have no relationship/interest in Shoei, The HelmetShop or Baehr.
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Thank you for the good review Laurence.
I'm looking for a replacement for my Aray Signet GTR and that will help for sure.

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Thanks for the excellent review. Recently, I purchased a Shoei X-11 (paid $100 more than yourself). I use a J&M headset. Having had an Arai previously, I conclude that the X-11 is more difficult to setup for audio than the Arai. Arai helmets are shorter from front to back, making it ideal to use a small, stationary microphone. Since there is more distance between my mouth and the inside of the chinguard on the X-11, J&M installed a boom mic. I also found that positioning the speakers was more of a challenge because of the way the X-11 is constructed.

Therefore, check to see if Baehr sells a setup with a boom mic. Also see if they have experts who can install professionally. J&M charged $50 and did a superb job. Let us know it turns out.
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I have wired several Shoei helmets with the Baehr. I used a dremmel tool to remove some of the styrofoam. I have been very happy with the results. Having the mike in the Chinbar works just fine. The Baehr in not near as sensitive about mike position as other intercoms. It just works good.

Enjoy your new helmet.

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Thanks for the excellent review. Recently, I purchased a Shoei X-11 (paid $100 more than yourself). I use a J&M headset. Having had an Arai previously, I conclude that the X-11 is more difficult to setup for audio than the Arai. Arai helmets are shorter from front to back, making it ideal to use a small, stationary microphone. Since there is more distance between my mouth and the inside of the chinguard on the X-11, J&M installed a boom mic. I also found that positioning the speakers was more of a challenge because of the way the X-11 is constructed.

Therefore, check to see if Baehr sells a setup with a boom mic. Also see if they have experts who can install professionally. J&M charged $50 and did a superb job. Let us know it turns out.
Thanks for the info. I can get the Baehr headphones with a boom mic (as I did for my System 4 helmet). Can you tell if J&M had to carve out any foam to install the speakers? I hate to put in the boom mic because it always gets pushed around when putting on/taking off the helmet. What is your experience with that?

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Larry,
Yes, J&M did carve out a small circle of hard foam for the speakers. There's a division(separate foam pieces) that runs through the recessed area where the speakers are placed. They were able to place the speakers in the lower section, which was closer to the center of my ears. If that doesn't make sense, PM me and I'll try to clarify.

About the boom mic, yes, the mic muff always touches my chin when putting the helmet on and taking it off. I often reach up and reposition the boom mic. It would be great for you if you could use the Baehr stationary mic, as a previous post suggests. With the J&M setup, however, they recommend the boom mic for the X-11.
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Very helpful information from all. Thanks. I think I am now comfortable adding a Baehr headphone/mic combo to the Shoei with a stationary mic installed in the chinpiece.

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Thank you Lawrence for this very informative report and for telling us about the helmet store.
Next week my wife and I are going to take a ride over to the East coast
just to visit this helmet store and try on as many helmets as possible,
most local shops just don't have a very good selection.
I visited the Ft. Meyers BMW dealer last week
and finally got to try on a Schubert C2 a very nice helmet indeed
but before I can spend that kind of money I owe it to myself to try on a few others


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I bought all but one of my helmets past/present from the helmetshop....TEHRE IS NONE OTHER!

That place rocks for price and service, just FYI for ya'll, adding to what was already said.

Your comments about the shoei are just about exact regarding my arai corsair (got that one at Lone Star in TX), unreal ventilation, more unreal noise, heheh....can't have everything.

Problem is, the vents are so good on top, they give me a new hairdoo, I have two horns sticking up that won't come down without a little spit, etc

very embarassing going into work!

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on customization...

one piece of advice, learned the hard way.......

if you use a dremel to open an area for the headset, use it on LOW speed, I now have the identical helmet you just bought, opened up the venting a little bit and made a little room for the earpieces of my intercom with my dremel (what's nice is that you can take the WHOLE inner lining out of the x-11, so no foam fuzzies when you're done). My previous shoei rf1000 didn't come out so well, I had the speed all the way up and although the bit carved like a hot knife thru butter, it also MELTED the evs foam, leaving it hard and crusty.

Kinda' like my ex wife, come to think of it...

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...leaving it hard and crusty. Kinda' like my ex wife, come to think of it...
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Silencing the Shoei X-11...

Thought some of ya' might find this interesting, maybe not.

I recently bought my daughter a new Bell brand bicycle helmet which came with a small ziplock bag full of foam pads to customize the fit. Two of the pieces are 90-degree angle foam cuts about two inches each side. i put them at the front of each ear hole cut-out and it reduced the noise IMMENSELY.

I called the hotline and they sent me a packet of the foam inserts for free, I am sure you could replicate the same thing from a hobby store.

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I just took delivery of a new Shoei X 11 Full Face Helmet (Anthracite, Large). Ordered online from http://www.helmetshop.com/. Paid $432 with free shipping (quite a discount over list or other retail locations that ranged from mid-$500's to a mind numbing $700 !!(A Honda dealer in NJ).

The HelmetShop sent the helmet in three days from Florida to New York, via UPS.

I must say I am very happy with the helmet. It looks and feels like a quality piece. Everything fits and works well. It is beautiful. It is light. A very nice fit to my previously Arai Signet GT shod head. I especially like the removable lining for cleaning (my main reason for replacing the Arai which is three years old is that the lining stinks even after cleaning with special helmet cleaner.

The face shield has detents at 7 lettings and doesn't crash down from the wind. It can be locked down, and had a convenient lever to 'crack' it open for demisting. Shields seem to cost less than Arai. The shield can be removed by pressing down on two small levers, without the 'cracking' sound of the Arai.

Most notable feature is the ventilation. This is the first helmet I have owned (Shoei RF900, Arai Signet GT, BMW System 4) where I can actually feel the air circulating inside. With all the vents open, I actually felt a draft up on the top of my head, strong enough to tickle a bit, but nice, especially considering the hot weather we have had lately. With a Cee Bailey 2, -2 alll the way down the breeze is good enough to feel comfortable at temperatures that had me sweating in the Arai.

The aerodynamics are good enough that I am comfortable riding with the shield all the way down at highway speeds up to 70 MPH without annoying buffeting, which I did not enjoy with the Arai. The System 4 seems to have good aero properties too.

The helmet is not quiet, especially with all the vents open. You can hear the wind wooshing through the vents. It is louder than the Arai or System 4.This improves if you close some vents, so o rest of season touring should be OK. Since I get better venting with the open vents I don't mind having to wear earplugs to control the roar. I wear the plugs whenever highway riding is planned.

I tried on several helmets at retail outlets near my home before buying online. I even told some of them what I was doing, and asked if they would match the online store price. No one would. No one minded my trying helmets on, and most spent time talking about various helmets they carried. I tried on Scorpion (400 and 700), Nolan, Arai Profile, AGV, HJC.

I see that Shoei did not participate in the helmet impact comparison testing that is referenced elsewhere on this site. My feeling is that any helmet is better than none, and since most will pass the DOT/Snell/Euro testing, that I might as well pick the one that fits best and appears to well put together.

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P.S. I have no relationship/interest in Shoei, The HelmetShop or Baehr.
Greetings Laurence:

After comparing the top of the line helmets from both Arai and Shoei, I went with the RX-7 Corsair. Both helmets were top quality with full flow through ventilation for those hot days. Both helmets used the latest technology and were very light and comfortable. I couldn't find a difference. Except, the Corsair was $100 cheaper!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Wife and I are new riders and tried both the Arai and Shoei. Glad we bought the Shoei. Looking forward to adding headsets from BMW. Tired of yelling over my shoulder! Any advice on headset choice?
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What type of intercom do you have? I have had good luck here:

http://www.jmcorp.com/
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The Shoei X 1100 liner easily snaps in and out and gives you lots of contact pionts under the liner. I use velcro to attach speakers microphone and run all wires under the liner. You can also order a chin web and a breath guard to help cut down on road noise and improve microphone communication.
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I am stuck between the New Shoei Multitec flip-up and their Full face X11. Since I ride w/ earplugs anyway; not sure if a flip type would be any advantage for talking to another rider, and I dont eat or drink coffee while on the bike, I'll use a tank bag blatter for water. I do use the J+M stereo helmet speakers; not sure if that makes difference. I also seldom lead group rides w/ others whom have no CB communication, and those times the flip type might be convienient, but again; I always ride w/ earplugs. What I may do is use my old full face for a while durring various situations after it warms up, and see if a flip type is ever neccesary before I lay out the big bucks.

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Great review indeed Laurence as I just bought the exact same helmet a few days ago. I'm new to the sport so it seems that I made a good choice. You need to high-five yourself as I couldn't touch the price you paid. Cheapest I saw anywhere (both local and online) was $539 for the Anthracite and that includes just looking up the price at The Helmet Shop. Since my local MC store spent some time helping me try on numerous helmets (Arai & Shoei mostly), I went ahead and scored it locally (did I do ok there, Tony? ).

The purchase came with a 7 day return policy if it doesn't fit to my liking so this morning for an hour + before work I wore it around the house. At first it fit too snugly but then I began to get used to it. For someone who's familiar with wearing a bicycle helmet (Giro), this is definitely a new sensation. I understand that the pads will get broken in with use and conform to the contours of my head so I think I'll keep it. Also noticed that my neck muscles aren't used to carrying the weight of a full face helmet (even though the X-Eleven is light!) so I'll need to get used to that as well. And the helmet hair looks really professional up here at work now. All "duh" observations for those of you experienced riders.

Thanks again for the write-up and all the other responses relative to what sort of communications gear works best with this helmet. For the moment I'm running with custom ear plugs since I'll be riding solo most (all?) of the time. Still, good to know that various options exist.

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Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase. The cheek pads will open up a bit for some additional comfort. Your neck muscles will strengthen to take the weight of the full face helmet. Unfortunately, the helmet head hairdo enhancement only gets better as you get less hair.

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Re: Shoei X 11 Helmet Report and Question

Yeah fiberglass doesn't take to well to drilling.

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Helmet hairdo attachment that's funny.

Hey great idea: How about incorporate a haircutting system into our helmets?

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